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Markustay
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 Posted - 09 May 2007 : 20:59:52
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Both of these might seem trivial, but -
Isn't there a plural for genie other then 'genies'? I remember reading it somewhere, but now can't find it. Maybe it was in the Calimshan stuff? I've tried Zakhara but no luck. I think it was something like Dgen, but I can't be sure.
This one is a little tougher. Twice I came across the reference to the book that the 'Tao Chung' is based on, and I believe it at least had a name for the author as well. This is the basis for the religion known as "The Way" in Kara-Tur. Unfortunately, it is not listed under that reference (Uh Doh!), but it is 'hidden' somewhere else in the sourcebooks. The refernce could be in one of the modules, but more likely in either the Kara-Tur or Hordelands boxed sets.
EDIT: Just thought of another one - who the heck is Aosokar? I know he is the (dead) god of portals, but in what source did he appear? 
Also - what else is known about him, like why is he dead?
Thanks -- Mark
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Edited by - Markustay on 09 May 2007 21:29:45
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Kentinal
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Posted - 09 May 2007 : 21:20:44
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Faraer
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Posted - 10 May 2007 : 00:01:40
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| Oddly, yes, because 'genie' was derived both from '(d)jinni' (pl. '(d)jinn') and 'genius' by the English translators of the Arabian Nights, hence 'genii', roundabout. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 May 2007 : 00:02:19
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Originally posted by Markustay
EDIT: Just thought of another one - who the heck is Aosokar? I know he is the (dead) god of portals, but in what source did he appear?
Also - what else is known about him, like why is he dead?
Thanks -- Mark
He's from the Planescape material. The Lady of Pain killed him because one of her dabus started to worship him, plus she didn't want a deity of portals to have any power in her city. |
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Edited by - Kuje on 10 May 2007 01:14:34 |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 10 May 2007 : 00:55:03
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Markustay
EDIT: Just thought of another one - who the heck is Aosokar? I know he is the (dead) god of portals, but in what source did he appear?
Also - what else is known about him, like why is he dead?
Thanks -- Mark
He's from the Planescape material. The Lady of Pain killed him because on of her dabus started to worship him, plus she didn't want a deity of portals to have any power in her city.
Mark, if you have a copy of On Hallowed Ground, you can learn a little more about both Aoskar, his relationship with Her Serenity... the Lady of Pain, and his connection with the City of Doors.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 10 May 2007 : 02:04:23
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Markustay
EDIT: Just thought of another one - who the heck is Aosokar? I know he is the (dead) god of portals, but in what source did he appear?
Also - what else is known about him, like why is he dead?
Thanks -- Mark
He's from the Planescape material. The Lady of Pain killed him because on of her dabus started to worship him, plus she didn't want a deity of portals to have any power in her city.
Mark, if you have a copy of On Hallowed Ground, you can learn a little more about both Aoskar, his relationship with Her Serenity... the Lady of Pain, and his connection with the City of Doors.
*whimper* I'd look that up myself, but since I'm going to be moving soon, my game stuff is all packed away and ready to be put in storage mañana...  |
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Wenin
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Posted - 10 May 2007 : 02:30:14
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stop referencing "On Hallowed Ground" =)
I'm trying to buy it on eBay and you're just sending more buyers there =P hehehe |
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warlockco
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The Sage
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Posted - 10 May 2007 : 06:18:11
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Originally posted by Wenin
stop referencing "On Hallowed Ground" =)
I'm trying to buy it on eBay and you're just sending more buyers there =P hehehe
You might want to keep an eye on dragontrove.com in the coming weeks.
*subtle hints from the Sage*
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Markustay
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Posted - 10 May 2007 : 17:37:24
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Originally posted by The Sage
Mark, if you have a copy of On Hallowed Ground, you can learn a little more about both Aoskar, his relationship with Her Serenity... the Lady of Pain, and his connection with the City of Doors.
Unfortunately, I am missing that VERY important source. I wasn't buying much Planescape toward the end, there.
Is a PDF available for purchase somewhere? Also, where is the best (read cheapest) place to buy PDFs?
Okay, I found some online references, it appears I've been spelling it wrong - His name is actually Aoskar.
So Genii is the plural of genie? I guess I can work with that.
Still no luck finding that 'Tao Chung' reference after two days of re-reading, I really must learn to take better notes. 
Thanks folks for the quick replies. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 10 May 2007 : 18:04:20
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On Hallowed Ground is not available as a pdf download. If it was, I would have bought a copy last night. 
I get most of my pdfs from Paizo.com, for a whopping $4 a piece. |
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Reefy
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Posted - 10 May 2007 : 18:57:20
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I get most of my pdfs from Paizo.com, for a whopping $4 a piece.
Same here, I'd recommend them. |
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Faraer
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Posted - 10 May 2007 : 19:21:32
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Originally posted by Markustay
So Genii is the plural of genie? I guess I can work with that.
It's a plural. I'd use 'genies' or 'jinn'. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 10 May 2007 : 19:25:43
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
On Hallowed Ground is not available as a pdf download. If it was, I would have bought a copy last night.
I get most of my pdfs from Paizo.com, for a whopping $4 a piece.
Hmm, just double-checked, I do have it, and it is about 50 megs in size.
Most likely an unanthorized copy then.
Got it from a friend along with a bunch of other PDFs. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 11 May 2007 : 00:19:32
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Originally posted by Markustay
Unfortunately, I am missing that VERY important source. I wasn't buying much Planescape toward the end, there.
As I said to Wenin above... you might want to keep an eye on dragontrove.com. I've not said this anywhere else... but I actually have two copies of On Hallowed Ground -- one of which is just sitting around collecting dust, so to speak. I've arranged for it to be collected by dragontrove.com, along with some other non-D&D material, over the next couple of months. I'll let those of you who are interested, know when it is included in the site's online catalogue.
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Is a PDF available for purchase somewhere? Also, where is the best (read cheapest) place to buy PDFs?
As Wooly said, it's not available as a PDF. The best place for PDFs these days is paizo.com... which offers most D&D PDFs for just $4US.
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Kuje
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Posted - 11 May 2007 : 00:54:54
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| If you are going to get PDF's from Paizo, I'd do it asap.... I dunno, I think they might lose the license/agreement once Dragon/Dungeon ends. :) |
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warlockco
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 11 May 2007 : 15:39:46
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Thanks for the help guys, I should be picking up some much-needed PDFs from Paizo over the weekend. Wish I could get Hallowed Ground that way...
Also, found the FR version of the plural of genie - it's Djen. It might not be correct in the RW, but that's what is used in EotSS.
New question: Found a reference to an ancient temple of Lolth in Undermountain. I know they are not talking about Skullport or the promenade; does anyone know where that might be located? |
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The Sage
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Posted - 11 May 2007 : 16:18:22
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You may be thinking of the Lolth temple that's briefly referenced in the "Muiral's Gauntlet" section of the Ruins of Undermountain II: The Deep Levels accessory.
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Edited by - The Sage on 11 May 2007 16:19:44 |
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Markustay
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Posted - 11 May 2007 : 19:53:57
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Originally posted by The Sage
You may be thinking of the Lolth temple that's briefly referenced in the "Muiral's Gauntlet" section of the Ruins of Undermountain II: The Deep Levels accessory.
Ah, Okay, I'll look that up now.
The passage I found was in DDGttU, and it mentions a series-portal that leads to Rauthym and an ancient temple of Lolth in Undermountain. Thanx. 
New Question (I never stop being inquisitive): I recently read (I think here at CK) that one of the designers for LEoF had a blurb in the timeline about the Imaskari spotting a Netheril floating city "in the distance", but it was removed in editting. I can't find the passage now, does anyone know what I'm talking about? |
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Skeptic
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Posted - 11 May 2007 : 19:57:00
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Originally posted by Kuje
If you are going to get PDF's from Paizo, I'd do it asap.... I dunno, I think they might lose the license/agreement once Dragon/Dungeon ends. :)
And a warning, quality is not perfect. I bought a PDF of Cloak & Dagger only for search purpose and it doesn't work pretty well.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 11 May 2007 : 20:33:25
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Originally posted by Skeptic
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Originally posted by Kuje
If you are going to get PDF's from Paizo, I'd do it asap.... I dunno, I think they might lose the license/agreement once Dragon/Dungeon ends. :)
And a warning, quality is not perfect. I bought a PDF of Cloak & Dagger only for search purpose and it doesn't work pretty well.
Yeah, a couple of them are not good... But I've not had problems with most of them. |
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Markustay
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Posted - 11 May 2007 : 21:25:12
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Arrrgh!
If this wasn't SO sad, it'd be funny. I have Undermountain I, Undermountain II, The Lost levels, Stardock, AND Skullport!
The only 'Undermountain' item I am missing is the Deep Levels.
No wonder I can't find it... I just can't win.
Does anyone remember the refernce I mentioned in my last post? |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 11 May 2007 : 21:47:41
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Originally posted by Markustay
Arrrgh!
If this wasn't SO sad, it'd be funny. I have Undermountain I, Undermountain II, The Lost levels, Stardock, AND Skullport!
The only 'Undermountain' item I am missing is the Deep Levels.
No wonder I can't find it... I just can't win.
Does anyone remember the refernce I mentioned in my last post?
The second Undermountain boxed set is the Deep Levels one. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 12 May 2007 : 00:41:45
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Originally posted by Markustay
The passage I found was in DDGttU, and it mentions a series-portal that leads to Rauthym and an ancient temple of Lolth in Undermountain. Thanx.
Are you referring to the details in the entry for Karsoluthiyl?
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New Question (I never stop being inquisitive): I recently read (I think here at CK) that one of the designers for LEoF had a blurb in the timeline about the Imaskari spotting a Netheril floating city "in the distance", but it was removed in editting. I can't find the passage now, does anyone know what I'm talking about?
I'll have to check my archives.
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Markustay
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Posted - 12 May 2007 : 04:33:22
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
The second Undermountain boxed set is the Deep Levels one.
Uh-Doh! 
I was looking through all the booklets and they just say "Undermountain II"
I didn't think to look at the bottom of the box cover. Now to check that reference Sage gave me...
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Originally posted by Markustay
The passage I found was in DDGttU, and it mentions a series-portal that leads to Rauthym and an ancient temple of Lolth in Undermountain. Thanx.
Are you referring to the details in the entry for Karsoluthiyl?
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George Krashos
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Posted - 12 May 2007 : 08:06:17
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Originally posted by Markustay
[New Question (I never stop being inquisitive): I recently read (I think here at CK) that one of the designers for LEoF had a blurb in the timeline about the Imaskari spotting a Netheril floating city "in the distance", but it was removed in editting. I can't find the passage now, does anyone know what I'm talking about?
Yes. It was in the original draft but edited out.
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