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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  02:35:55  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Granted, they aren't using this to determine magazine content or anything, but Paizo (you know, the guys that publish Dungeon Magazine and Dragon Magazine) is running a poll at their site about what your favorite campaign setting is . . .

While there is a bit of a bias toward Greyhawk at the site, they are good folks. While I wouldn't ask anyone to skew any scientifically conducted poll . . . well, lets just say you can find the thread here:

http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/community/gaming/dnd/pollWhatsYourFavoriteCampaignSetting

Wandering_mage
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  03:33:51  Show Profile  Visit Wandering_mage's Homepage Send Wandering_mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Odd. I would have thought Greyhawk had a small following at best of late because of the lack of products for the Campaign setting. Maybe its just people with nostalgia. I tried to vote FR but I think you need an account... and I'm to lazy to look up my account info. Thanks for the info KnightEJR

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  04:07:01  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wandering_mage

Odd. I would have thought Greyhawk had a small following at best of late because of the lack of products for the Campaign setting. Maybe its just people with nostalgia. I tried to vote FR but I think you need an account... and I'm to lazy to look up my account info. Thanks for the info KnightEJR



And since they said blatant campaigning was OK, if you happen to find any OTHER polls on that site you'd like to vote in ...

;-)

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  04:43:50  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

quote:
Originally posted by Wandering_mage

Odd. I would have thought Greyhawk had a small following at best of late because of the lack of products for the Campaign setting. Maybe its just people with nostalgia. I tried to vote FR but I think you need an account... and I'm to lazy to look up my account info. Thanks for the info KnightEJR



And since they said blatant campaigning was OK, if you happen to find any OTHER polls on that site you'd like to vote in ...

;-)

--Eric




Hm . . . perhaps this thread might interest you Eric . . .

http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8972
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  04:57:10  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bah, as of right now, two more votes and we overthrow Greyhawk! For the Realms, once more into the breach . . . (honestly, I'd just like to see the reaction of some of the more hardcore Greyhawk afficianados at Paizo when they see FR has overtaken their setting, but that's just me . . . thanks to everyone that's pitched in on the voting!)
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Markustay
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  05:18:36  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Been there and voted.

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tauster
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  11:58:03  Show Profile  Visit tauster's Homepage Send tauster a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As yet, I seem to be the only, lonely spelljammer-fan. *g*
Funny, since I play and dm for more than 6 years now - almost exclusively in the realms!
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Uzzy
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  13:04:50  Show Profile  Visit Uzzy's Homepage Send Uzzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Been there and voted for the FR. Woo.

I'm guessing that the following of Greyhawk has increased due to the Living Greyhawk campaign.
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WalkerNinja
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quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Bah, as of right now, two more votes and we overthrow Greyhawk! For the Realms, once more into the breach . . . (honestly, I'd just like to see the reaction of some of the more hardcore Greyhawk afficianados at Paizo when they see FR has overtaken their setting, but that's just me . . . thanks to everyone that's pitched in on the voting!)



I just cast the vote that tied us... time for someone else to step up.

As for watching their agony as Greyhawk is replaced by FR... I thought that we allready saw that happen in the late 80's... This should just be like deja vu for them.

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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  15:36:43  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I used to like Greyhawk, just not as much as FR. Anyway, I voted.

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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ShadezofDis
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  17:17:45  Show Profile  Visit ShadezofDis's Homepage Send ShadezofDis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Been there, voted FR though it was hard not to give Dark Sun a nod.

Dark Sun, the setting where dragons are still scary! ;D

Edit: er. . . well, dragon to be proper. . . and I guess he's not so scary as a corpse (oh, that reminds me that they have that nifty lil undead sorcerer king last I knew) but still. . . ok. . . yeah, I have no clue where I'm goin with this *g*

Edited by - ShadezofDis on 28 Feb 2007 17:19:23
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  18:12:07  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't have anything at all against Greyhawk (what little I know of it, I like), but I too am rather surprised by how popular it still is.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  19:26:47  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I voted for the Realms, though I was tempted to vote for Spelljammer.

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Lemernis
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  19:58:36  Show Profile  Visit Lemernis's Homepage Send Lemernis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
FR is the only fantasy setting I'm even remotely familiar with other the Tolkien's 'Middle-Earth' and Fritz Leiber's 'Nehwon'. So I don't feel I can vote in good conscience. For all I know one of the other settings in the poll might actually be more appealing to me... (Kinda doubt it, but could be.)
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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  20:37:15  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have played and love Dark Sun as well as Spelljammer. But like I said, FR has always been special to me. I have never really liked the competition and fighting that has gone on between certain settings (like Greyhawk and FR).

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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Reefy
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  22:09:55  Show Profile  Visit Reefy's Homepage Send Reefy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Done and dusted.

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MaxKaladin
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  22:18:24  Show Profile  Visit MaxKaladin's Homepage Send MaxKaladin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mazrim_Taim

I have played and love Dark Sun as well as Spelljammer. But like I said, FR has always been special to me. I have never really liked the competition and fighting that has gone on between certain settings (like Greyhawk and FR).

I'm not sure there is a Greyhawk-FR "rivalry". It really seems much more one-sided than that. In my experience, you have a subset of Greyhawk fans who hate the Realms and who are bitter that it "stole" Greyhawk's place in the sun while most Realms fans either don't know the so-called rivalry exists or just don't care. I think it really needs to be a bit less one-sided than that to be a rivalry.

Personally, I don't have any problem with Greyhawk itself but I've had enough unpleasant encounters with obnoxious Greyhawk fans that I can understand someone wanting to see their reaction to losing to the Realms "again".
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turox
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  22:41:41  Show Profile  Visit turox's Homepage Send turox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok finally got the time to vote and I put FR up 31 to 30 vs. Greyhawk. Then a couple of minutes later it was tied again 31 to 31.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  22:46:38  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MaxKaladin

quote:
Originally posted by Mazrim_Taim

I have played and love Dark Sun as well as Spelljammer. But like I said, FR has always been special to me. I have never really liked the competition and fighting that has gone on between certain settings (like Greyhawk and FR).

I'm not sure there is a Greyhawk-FR "rivalry". It really seems much more one-sided than that. In my experience, you have a subset of Greyhawk fans who hate the Realms and who are bitter that it "stole" Greyhawk's place in the sun while most Realms fans either don't know the so-called rivalry exists or just don't care. I think it really needs to be a bit less one-sided than that to be a rivalry.

Personally, I don't have any problem with Greyhawk itself but I've had enough unpleasant encounters with obnoxious Greyhawk fans that I can understand someone wanting to see their reaction to losing to the Realms "again".



*snickers* 'Tis a good point. I have a mild dislike for the Greyhawk setting, myself, but it's not so bad that I'll badmouth the setting or avoid buying interesting products for it. I've never really seen any Realms fans badmouthing Greyhawk, though I have certainly seen some Greyhawk fans bashing the Realms.

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The Sage
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  23:28:34  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I voted for the Realms, though I was tempted to vote for Spelljammer.

I voted for the Realms, though it could just as easily have been either SPELLJAMMER, PLANESCAPE, RAVENLOFT, or DRAGONLANCE.

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MerrikCale
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Posted - 01 Mar 2007 :  02:10:09  Show Profile  Visit MerrikCale's Homepage Send MerrikCale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I voted for FR, but I grew up on Greyhawk. I remember those old TSR published Gord books. anyone else read those?



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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 01 Mar 2007 :  03:18:55  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have DMed in Mystara (sort of), DragonLance, and Forgotten Realms (which I have spent the most time in by far), but I played in tons of Greyhawk adventures, so I have fond memories of the setting, though I've never been able to "wrap my brain around" running it as a DM.

That having been said, if I have to read one more person posting that Forgotten Realms "ripped off" this or that from Greyhawk, I'm gonna scream . . .

Vote Forgotten Realms!
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Sian
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Posted - 01 Mar 2007 :  05:09:42  Show Profile  Visit Sian's Homepage Send Sian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
anyone willing to bet their necks on it ... its gotta be a sight for the gods that one :P

*ducks and flees from KEJR*

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Markustay
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Birthright and Council of Worms are the only two still without votes.

Glad to see they're just as popular the second time around.

We're tied at 23%, but Greyhawk still has one more vote.

Sorry Rupert, only 1% for Spelljammer

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Edited by - Markustay on 01 Mar 2007 05:31:56
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 01 Mar 2007 :  06:47:10  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MerrikCale

I voted for FR, but I grew up on Greyhawk. I remember those old TSR published Gord books. anyone else read those?



I still have them, as well as the novels about Mika the Wolf Nomad.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 01 Mar 2007 :  06:51:14  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Birthright and Council of Worms are the only two still without votes.

Glad to see they're just as popular the second time around.




I enjoyed the Council of Wyrms setting when it came out, but the problem was that it was never further developed...

I loved using it to customize dragons for other settings, though. And I still prefer that version of half-dragons to the version we have now.

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Sorry Rupert, only 1% for Spelljammer



Spelljammer was my first love, but I know it was never all that popular, even before the horrifically bad Astromundi Cluster boxed set came out... I loved the setting, but some of the supplementary material was just awful (Krynnspace being an excellent example).

Still, I couldn't vote for it, because the Realms needs the support in that poll!

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Ergdusch
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Posted - 01 Mar 2007 :  08:17:17  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Now, this can't be true!!!!

Greyhawk and FR are first runners up, both tied with 23%. Now where are all the FR fans of this site? Go you all, and do as I did - vote for the one and only - Forgotten Realms!

Here is the link again: Poll: What's your favorite campaign setting?

Go! Go! Go!





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Edited by - Ergdusch on 01 Mar 2007 08:22:01
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boddynock
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Posted - 01 Mar 2007 :  13:33:30  Show Profile  Visit boddynock's Homepage Send boddynock a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Difficult choise for me because I feel very much for Forgotten Realms but also for Ravenloft. Third place is for Planescape :)
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Markustay
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Posted - 01 Mar 2007 :  15:54:15  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ergdusch

Now, this can't be true!!!!

Greyhawk and FR are first runners up, both tied with 23%. Now where are all the FR fans of this site? Go you all, and do as I did - vote for the one and only - Forgotten Realms!
Just because we are all FR fans here doesn't mean it's necessarily our favorite.

I do get a kick out of the fact that just about everyone is beating Eberron, even Homebrew.

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BlackAce
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Posted - 01 Mar 2007 :  16:16:15  Show Profile Send BlackAce a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Only one behind Greyhawk now....
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Bluenose
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Posted - 01 Mar 2007 :  16:57:23  Show Profile  Visit Bluenose's Homepage Send Bluenose a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

[quote]Just because we are all FR fans here doesn't mean it's necessarily our favorite.

I do get a kick out of the fact that just about everyone is beating Eberron, even Homebrew.



Yes, because those of us who put in a huge amount of work developing our own homebrew campaign really enjoy that sort of remark

I'm most surprised by how well Mystara is doing. I remember that setting fondly, even though I didn't vote for it, but it's more than a decade since anything has beeen published for it.

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