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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

In other words, Skimpy is using his own version of Thay that has little to do with any published Realmslore. Thus, anything pertaining to rules or published lore doesn't apply to HappyThay, as I'm now calling it.

Of course, ignoring rules and published lore means Skimpy's contributions to this thread aren't as useful as they could be, since he's not on the same page as anyone else.

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Originally posted by Thraskir Skimper

Scryology is more about actions and means to achieve results bending minds and extracting information and less about relying on imagined beings who one really doesn't understand.

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Originally posted by TheIriaeban

Cammarathinor: Created by gnomes (the name is gnomish for “knowledge stone”), these clear or translucent gemstones of crystalline structure no larger in size than a gnome’s balled fist, can receive and hold written information.

If it is held up to the light, a tiny scroll can be seen at the center of the gem. A being who closes their eyes and concentrates on a held gem (only one can be utilized at a time) gets a mental image of the gem opening up and a list of titles for the written works contained appears (if any). The user mentally selects the title and can go to any page desired in the work. The gemstone can hold one written work of no more than 200 pages in length per gp value of the gemstone. As an example, a 500 gp gem could hold 500 written works. Once a written work is stored, it cannot be removed. Having a written work stored in this manner does not affect the user’s reading speed or retention of what is read. The method by which information was transferred into a cammarathinor has not been found and no one so far has discovered a means to accomplish this (among gnomes, the rumor is that Fhzmilliyun Sparkledrim knew of a way but no one has been able to locate it).

Cammarathinor cannot contain any sort of magical writings (spellbooks, scrolls, librams, tomes, etc). However, a very rare version has been found that can. Called a cammaradil, these gems can hold up to 1 spell per 10gp value of the gem. The being holding the stone is able to transfer a memorized spell into the gemstone and thereafter use the gemstone as a spellbook for memorizing that spell. It takes 1 round per level of the spell to be “transcribed” into the gemstone. The spell is lost from the being’s memory just as if they had cast the spell normally. Again, once a spell is transcribed into the cammaradil, it cannot be erased (even by using the spell of the same name).

A cammarathinor/cammaradil otherwise has no special properties besides being immune to damage by natural and magical heat, flame, lava, extreme cold, or mineral contamination. Shattering a cammarathinor/cammaradil (normal save versus crushing blow) does nothing more than destroy the gemstone and make any information held within unrecoverable by any magic less than a wish. A dispel magic cast on such a stone does not affect it in any way.

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Originally posted by Thraskir Skimper

Scryology is more about actions and means to achieve results bending minds and extracting information and less about relying on imagined beings who one really doesn't understand.

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Originally posted by TheIriaeban

Yeah, I was trying to one-up a kiira figuring that a gnome could work with a gem better than an elf. If I remember my thinking, a kiira would hold the memories of a number of elves so a gnome "harddrive" should be able to hold quite a bit of information. While it may make a library portable, it doesn't eliminate the cost of creating one and imagine the owner's fury when some cutpurse just took his 20,000 gp library. Easily portable works both ways. That's the cost of convenience.

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Originally posted by The Masked Mage

i think it might be cooler if it was not some mental magic, rather, the information was recorded into minute imperfections within the crystal that could be read if wearing eye scopes and held to light.

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Originally posted by TheIriaeban

Cammarathinor: Created by gnomes (the name is gnomish for “knowledge stone”), these clear or translucent gemstones of crystalline structure no larger in size than a gnome’s balled fist, can receive and hold written information.

If it is held up to the light, a tiny scroll can be seen at the center of the gem. A being who closes their eyes and concentrates on a held gem (only one can be utilized at a time) gets a mental image of the gem opening up and a list of titles for the written works contained appears (if any). The user mentally selects the title and can go to any page desired in the work. The gemstone can hold one written work of no more than 200 pages in length per gp value of the gemstone. As an example, a 500 gp gem could hold 500 written works. Once a written work is stored, it cannot be removed. Having a written work stored in this manner does not affect the user’s reading speed or retention of what is read. The method by which information was transferred into a cammarathinor has not been found and no one so far has discovered a means to accomplish this (among gnomes, the rumor is that Fhzmilliyun Sparkledrim knew of a way but no one has been able to locate it).

Cammarathinor cannot contain any sort of magical writings (spellbooks, scrolls, librams, tomes, etc). However, a very rare version has been found that can. Called a cammaradil, these gems can hold up to 1 spell per 10gp value of the gem. The being holding the stone is able to transfer a memorized spell into the gemstone and thereafter use the gemstone as a spellbook for memorizing that spell. It takes 1 round per level of the spell to be “transcribed” into the gemstone. The spell is lost from the being’s memory just as if they had cast the spell normally. Again, once a spell is transcribed into the cammaradil, it cannot be erased (even by using the spell of the same name).

A cammarathinor/cammaradil otherwise has no special properties besides being immune to damage by natural and magical heat, flame, lava, extreme cold, or mineral contamination. Shattering a cammarathinor/cammaradil (normal save versus crushing blow) does nothing more than destroy the gemstone and make any information held within unrecoverable by any magic less than a wish. A dispel magic cast on such a stone does not affect it in any way.

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Originally posted by The Masked Mage

i think it might be cooler if it was not some mental magic, rather, the information was recorded into minute imperfections within the crystal that could be read if wearing eye scopes and held to light.

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Originally posted by Thraskir Skimper

Scryology is more about actions and means to achieve results bending minds and extracting information and less about relying on imagined beings who one really doesn't understand.

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He created a deliberately ridiculous word based on the term scrying to ridicule. You took that and amplified it by confusing scrying, a purview of the school of divination with spells from the school of Enchantment.

Your Zulkirs would expel you and probably trade you for a kobold slave or two.

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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

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i think it might be cooler if it was not some mental magic, rather, the information was recorded into minute imperfections within the crystal that could be read if wearing eye scopes and held to light.

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While I do like this idea, this also limits how much can be written into a stone -- the more imperfections, the less the gp value, and thus fewer books.

Perhaps a compromise, of sorts? The gemstone acts as a projector, creating an illusory copy of the book that can be opened and have pages turned like a real book.

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Originally posted by Thraskir Skimper

Scryology is more about actions and means to achieve results bending minds and extracting information and less about relying on imagined beings who one really doesn't understand.

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He created a deliberately ridiculous word based on the term scrying to ridicule. You took that and amplified it by confusing scrying, a purview of the school of divination with spells from the school of Enchantment.

Your Zulkirs would expel you and probably trade you for a kobold slave or two.

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Let me be clear... I didn't create that word.... Scryology is entirely Thraskir's. I used his own word.

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Originally posted by TheIriaeban

Joyous Communion of Laughter. Here is another spell developed by a gnome for gnomes. (It was only after I had to create a gnome illusionist/thief NPC and get inside her head that I realized just how little there was out there for gnome specific magic. These guys are crazily inventive. They should almost be swimming in spells of their own creation).

Fhzmilliyun’s Hallway — Gnome
(Alteration, Illusion)
Level 4
Range: Touch
Components: S
Duration: 1 round/level
Casting Time: 4
Area of Effect: 10-foot wide by 5 feet/level length of tunnel or hallway
Saving Throw: Special

Created to defend their dwellings, the spell will weaken an invading force by shrinking them as they go further into the area of effect. The affected area has a maximum width of 10 feet and up to 5 feet in length per level of the caster. For each 5 feet traveled by creatures hostile to the gnome caster, they will shrink by 10 percent of their normal size down to a minimum height of 1 inch. There is an illusionary component of the spell so that this shrinkage will not be noticed by those affected by the spell. They may think that the tunnel is getting larger but they will not notice that the people further along in the area of effect are smaller than they used to be. However, they may later get a nasty surprise when encountering “giant gnomes” (seemingly up to 200 feet tall when at maximum effect).

Much like the reverse of the enlarge spell, the damage output is reduced proportionally. For example, an orc wielding a short sword that has been reduced by 50% would also have the damage of the sword reduced by 50%. Magical effects are not affected so a +1 sword would still be +1 and a wand of fireballs the size of a sewing needle would still produce a 6d6 fireball.

There are two saving throws associated with this spell: one for the shrinking effect and one for the illusion so that members of the same group can see themselves or others shrinking or not shrinking depending on who is successful with each saving throw. A dispel magic spell can end Fhzmilliyun’s hallway but it will take a dispel magic per affected being to cancel out any shrinkage that has already happened.

This spell was created by Fhzmilliyun Sparkledrim, a famous (at least among gnomes) illusionist from the time of Ascalhorn.

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Joyous Communion of Laughter. Here is another spell developed by a gnome for gnomes. (It was only after I had to create a gnome illusionist/thief NPC and get inside her head that I realized just how little there was out there for gnome specific magic. These guys are crazily inventive. They should almost be swimming in spells of their own creation).

Fhzmilliyun’s Hallway — Gnome
(Alteration, Illusion)
Level 4
Range: Touch
Components: S
Duration: 1 round/level
Casting Time: 4
Area of Effect: 10-foot wide by 5 feet/level length of tunnel or hallway
Saving Throw: Special

Created to defend their dwellings, the spell will weaken an invading force by shrinking them as they go further into the area of effect. The affected area has a maximum width of 10 feet and up to 5 feet in length per level of the caster. For each 5 feet traveled by creatures hostile to the gnome caster, they will shrink by 10 percent of their normal size down to a minimum height of 1 inch. There is an illusionary component of the spell so that this shrinkage will not be noticed by those affected by the spell. They may think that the tunnel is getting larger but they will not notice that the people further along in the area of effect are smaller than they used to be. However, they may later get a nasty surprise when encountering “giant gnomes” (seemingly up to 200 feet tall when at maximum effect).

Much like the reverse of the enlarge spell, the damage output is reduced proportionally. For example, an orc wielding a short sword that has been reduced by 50% would also have the damage of the sword reduced by 50%. Magical effects are not affected so a +1 sword would still be +1 and a wand of fireballs the size of a sewing needle would still produce a 6d6 fireball.

There are two saving throws associated with this spell: one for the shrinking effect and one for the illusion so that members of the same group can see themselves or others shrinking or not shrinking depending on who is successful with each saving throw. A dispel magic spell can end Fhzmilliyun’s hallway but it will take a dispel magic per affected being to cancel out any shrinkage that has already happened.

This spell was created by Fhzmilliyun Sparkledrim, a famous (at least among gnomes) illusionist from the time of Ascalhorn.

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You have several problems with this spell.

First when your 1 foot tall moving 5 feet will take as long as moving 30 feet when you are 6 feet tall.

And secondly 10% of what? Original height or current height. 50% decrease means you get down to 1 inch tall eventually but 10% of 6 feet is 64.8 inches 10% of that is 58.32 10% of that is 52.488 inches etc... Getting down to 1 inch would take an eternity. 41st level gnome illusionist to get to 1.06 inches of height and at 2 inches it will be 35 feet which will seem to be ~1890 feet of travel. At 1 round / level the spell will end before you go 10% of that. At 1 inch it will take about 9 rounds to walk 5 feet.

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Originally posted by Thraskir Skimper

9th level spell

Orcus

This spell is a vocal only component that has the component of saying "Orcus"

When cast the spell has the effect of attracting the attention of Orcus. The chance of doing so is 1%. This chance can be increased by 1% for every 100 undead within 10000 feet of the caster.

Never more than 10%.

If the threshold is not achieved the spell is lost and nothing happens.

If the threshold is achieved one had better have something to give to Orcus. A whole bunch of undead a powerful item etc...

The spell doesn't summon or bind Orcus, it merely attracts his attention.

Casting the spell will move your alignment one point towards chaos and or evil, if all ready 0/0 Chaotic Evil it will grant you 1000 xp.

If Orcus responds you can use other magic upon him or bribe him with information etc...

You may be required to serve him or perform a duty.

Orcus is under no compulsion but if you present an opportunity might be favourable to you, up to your DM.

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