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Originally posted by LordofBones

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Originally posted by Thraskir Skimper

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Originally posted by LordofBones

How is that spell even remotely associated with Divination? It's pretty clearly abjuration, being a super-specific mix of dispel magic and Mordenkainen's disjunction.

Vorpal parry is also transmutation, not abjuration.

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Divination as it is the only way to penetrate the Anti Magic Shell. Abjuration wouldn't do anything inside an Anti Magic Shell. But a peek into the Past or future to 'borrow' a bit of Spell Plague is a great way to dissuade fools from activating Anti Magic Shells and walking through magical barriers, creatures, demons, elementals, animals, etc... Throw everything you have at an anti magic shell and nothing happens until there is a blinding flash and everything inside it explodes.

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That's not even what Divination does. Pulling something from the future into the present is the province of Transmutation, as evidenced in Time Stop and, most importantly, the celerity line of spells, which literally have the caster pull time from the future into the present.

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Pulling things to you, from somewhere or somewhen else, can also be Conjuration.

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Originally posted by LordXenophon

This potion makes you turn dark green. It affects not only the skin, but also hair, eyes, nails, even clothing and equipment. It lasts for about a day. Some adventurers have been using it as a substitute for a Cloak of Elvenkind.

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Originally posted by sleyvas

again, concept is 20 years old. It was created to defeat very specific types of effects. It could use some better wording, but essentially the idea was to modify a spell so that it could occur in areas which normally would stop the effect.

leyvas’ Random Dweomer Mutation (alteration, meta-magic)

Level: 8
Range: 0
Duration: 1 hour/lvl
Area of effect: spells on caster
Components: v,s,m
Casting time: 1 round per spell on caster
Saving throw: None

This spell causes a simple dweomer to combine with each of the personal spells on a caster (such as elemental aura, spelltrap, non-detection, etc....). This dweomer does NOT replace the spells normal dweomer, it simply works in addition to the caster’s normal dweomers. Thus, a spell of mind blank would show up as abjuration & mentalism PLUS this additional dweomer. Because of this, this spell cannot be used to, say, bypass an area which specifically prohibits scrying magics. Its main use lies in bypassing spells which passively allow spells with specific dweomers involved.

This dweomer constantly mutates unintelligently, though it will only mutate into forms of dweomers which are allowed within an area (i.e. in the area of a spell engine which allows only abjuration magics, it would only mutate into abjuration dweomers). Also, these dweomers never fully form enough to the point that the magic inherent is released (for instance, if it were randomly forming a “magic missile” like dweomer it molds the dweomer up until the point at which the magic actually begins to take effect in the real world). There is a very important difference between specifically prohibited and passively allowed magics. Specifically prohibited magics are those which “will not allow magics that contain a dweomer of a specific type to function” (EXAMPLES: anti-scrying magics, proof from teleport, etc.....). Thus, a teleport spell would have a “teleport” dweomer associated with it in addition to the random dweomer, and even with the random element attached it will not function in said area. Also, the caster need not fear that his elemental aura would suddenly develop a “teleport” dweomer and cease to function in an area proofed from teleport.

Passively allowed magics are those which “allow magics so long as part of its dweomer is of a certain type”. Examples of spells which function in this manner are sphere of wonder and spell engine. For instance, if a sphere of wonder were made to only allow spells which had a “geas”-type component, then the random dweomer is forced to stay within the bounds of “geas” type magics. However, there is a chance that the magic controlling this shifting dweomer is ruined before it mutates to an appropriate type (50% chance), and each personal spell should be thusly checked.

There is one drawback to this spell. As the dweomers are shifting all the time, at any given time the caster will have hundreds of types of minor dweomers form around him continuously. Thus, if the caster entered an area which didn’t specifically prohibit a certain type of spell, AND there were a spell that reacted if magic of a certain kind went off, there is a 1% chance per spell on the caster that he triggers said spell. For instance, if there were some kind of warding that sounded an alarm if scrying magic is present, and the person passing through has 10 spells on himself, then there is a 10% chance he’ll set off the alarm. Of course, non-detection may protect against such spells which DETECT for such magics rather than being TRIGGERED by such magics.

The material component of this spell is an object which has had a magical aura (such as Nystul's magical aura) on it, or which has been exposed to Underdark radiations for an extended period of time.

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This spell is Wild Magic. Since a Wild Encantatrix would be extremely rare, I would drop Meta-Magic and just make it Wild Alteration.

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[quote]Originally posted by Thraskir Skimper

<Sleyvas snipping all the back and forth>

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Are...are you being this obtuse on purpose?

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Originally posted by LordXenophon

Potion of Green

This potion makes you turn dark green. It affects not only the skin, but also hair, eyes, nails, even clothing and equipment. It lasts for about a day. Some adventurers have been using it as a substitute for a Cloak of Elvenkind.

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Originally posted by LordXenophon

Potion of Green

This potion makes you turn dark green. It affects not only the skin, but also hair, eyes, nails, even clothing and equipment. It lasts for about a day. Some adventurers have been using it as a substitute for a Cloak of Elvenkind.

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Originally posted by sleyvas

Bear in mind, the incantatrix did not EXIST in 2nd edition, and this was written up for 2e.

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Originally posted by dazzlerdal

I like the odd and seemingly useless magic items. For every successful formula there must be a hundred failures.
Someone may have wanted to create a potion of blending but his efforts came to naught but green. I'd make it a lot cheaper and easier to make the potion of greenness, it's there if people want to make it and it does have a few uses, but generally it's one of the less well publicised and used magical formulae

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Bear in mind, the incantatrix did not EXIST in 2nd edition, and this was written up for 2e.

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I was not aware that 9547 "Cult of the Dragon" was not for 2e.

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Bear in mind, the incantatrix did not EXIST in 2nd edition, and this was written up for 2e.

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I was not aware that 9547 "Cult of the Dragon" was not for 2e.

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Originally posted by dazzlerdal

I like the odd and seemingly useless magic items. For every successful formula there must be a hundred failures.
Someone may have wanted to create a potion of blending but his efforts came to naught but green. I'd make it a lot cheaper and easier to make the potion of greenness, it's there if people want to make it and it does have a few uses, but generally it's one of the less well publicised and used magical formulae

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Who knows what the creator was trying to do. He could have been trying to make a Potion of Wishes, for all we know. As it turned out, the world got a cheap potion for poor, first-level Thieves. I doubt they're complaining.

When I put these on the shelves of The Old Xoblob Shop, my players bought them all up, at 20gp each. I'm sure they have a use in mind.

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Originally posted by TheIriaeban

The pet rock

Typically a stone no larger than the average human fist, the first person to touch it will hear a purring sound and will get a slight feeling of relaxation from the noise. Thereafter, the same noise and the feeling of relaxation will happen any time the owner of the rock (i.e. the first person to touch it and this ownership continues as long as the owner is alive) pets the rock. The relaxation offered is not strong enough to counter any type of magical emotion control.


The feeling of relaxation and the purring noise is felt/heard only by the owner and they will be the only ones to hear the shriek of pain if the rock is destroyed. No one else will hear or feel anything. The rock does not detect as magical. This leads to the friends, family, and acquaintances of the owner to think they are crazy, an idiot, or possibly, both.

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Originally posted by TheIriaeban

The pet rock

Typically a stone no larger than the average human fist, the first person to touch it will hear a purring sound and will get a slight feeling of relaxation from the noise. Thereafter, the same noise and the feeling of relaxation will happen any time the owner of the rock (i.e. the first person to touch it and this ownership continues as long as the owner is alive) pets the rock. The relaxation offered is not strong enough to counter any type of magical emotion control.


The feeling of relaxation and the purring noise is felt/heard only by the owner and they will be the only ones to hear the shriek of pain if the rock is destroyed. No one else will hear or feel anything. The rock does not detect as magical. This leads to the friends, family, and acquaintances of the owner to think they are crazy, an idiot, or possibly, both.

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I was thinking of doing something like this, though I would have called it something like the Stone of Pettis.

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You're not really even blending. You're just green.

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I was not aware that 9547 "Cult of the Dragon"

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The Folding Golem

This is a Wood Golem but when the hidden button is pushed and the magic word spoken the Golem folds into a 5" Square Box. 5x5x5 inches. In all other respects it is a Wood Golem.

If a second magic word is spoken the wood Golem folds into a rather odd (ugly) chair.

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Originally posted by LordofBones

Circle magic hard-caps at 40th caster level.

Seriously, Apportation was basically transmutation and conjuration. In 3.5e, it would be a descriptor, not a school of magic.

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Originally posted by LordofBones

The Red Wizards are not so special that they can ignore the limitations of the Weave. Looking at the Apportation spell list, most of them were cannibalized from the older schools. I wouldn't make Apportation an alternate school of magic, I'd make Transfusers variant Transmuters, as in Unearthed Arcana, or a prestige class. It's easier in Pathfinder, a Transfuser is basically an archetype of the wizard class.

As for circle magic, here's the in-game rules:

Increase the circle leader's caster level by one for every bonus level expended (maximum caster level 40th).

Add Empower Spell, Maximize Spell, or Heighten Spell metamagic feats to spells currently prepared by the circle leader. Each bonus level counts as one additional spell level required by the application of a metamagic feat to a spell. The circle leader may add the feats listed to a spell even if he does not know the feat or if the addition of the feat would raise the spell level past the circle leader's normal maximum spell level (maximum spell level 20th).

Increase the circle leader's level by one for level checks (dispel checks, caster level checks, and so on) for every bonus level expended (maximum level 40th).

Note the hard cap.

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