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ShadezofDis
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 Posted - 06 May 2008 : 13:21:16
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 06 May 2008 : 15:57:39
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Originally posted by Alisttair
So is there any new update to Obould's possible stats at this point??
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"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 06 May 2008 15:58:29 |
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Aravine
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Posted - 06 May 2008 : 16:25:30
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The thing about gods, and this is all my opinion, which I'm entitled to, is that all the panteonic dieties MUST reflect the people that call on them. That is, let's just say the Elves, being chaotic inclined are freer with their sexuality(hypothetically), than the Dieties should be the same. Zeus reflected the Greeks "freedom". In other words, the Gods are a reflection of the people that worship them. Since the ability to attract followers dictates how powerful a diety is, It would only make sense that they would "cater" to the mainstream followers. so back to the Elves, if they elves are freer with their sexuality than humans, and the dieties do not follow that, than the Elves would be disinclined to follow that particular diety. it is essentially like a presidential race. more people will vote for a canidate who follows their set of "values". the man(or woman) with more votes gets the powerful job, in this case the presidency. In Faerun it works in a similar way. It says somewhere in the FRCS that people will choose a diety that most directly impacts thier life. All Elves venerate the Elven pantheon, But what makes an Individual choose one over the other? If it happens to be their sexuality, that hypothetical elf will choose the one most like itself, promoting that diety, and that diety gets a little more power.
Now there are certain gods that I don't beleive should be interacting with mortals in this way. the Primal gods are some of these, namely, Shar and Selune, and I don't care what was written, Mystra, although this makes a little more sense, since magic is so pivitol to the Realms.
In my opinion, a Pantheon MUST be a represntation of the people that belong to the same name, in all their aspects.
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Alisttair
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 May 2008 : 16:35:44
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Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 May 2008 : 17:15:26
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Would most of us agree he is more powerfull now after the Orc King?
Define "powerful." |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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sfdragon
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Posted - 07 May 2008 : 09:43:11
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, well id ditch the fighter lvls for orc warlord myself......
after the ritual, yeah id say add the max effect of those 3 spells to his stats.
however it was a ritual, so it might be +8 to those stats as well...... |
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Alisttair
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Posted - 07 May 2008 : 14:10:01
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair
Would most of us agree he is more powerfull now after the Orc King?
Define "powerful."
Higher Challenge Rating |
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Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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Alisttair
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Posted - 07 May 2008 : 14:10:45
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair
Would most of us agree he is more powerfull now after the Orc King?
Define "powerful."
And more influence |
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Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Lord Donnachie
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Posted - 07 May 2008 : 14:35:17
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worth more exps  |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 07 May 2008 : 14:42:29
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Is Obould more powerful (as far as his CR goes) after The Orc King? I don't think we have any way of knowing that. More powerful than which version of him? The version in The Two Swords?
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"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 07 May 2008 14:43:45 |
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Alisttair
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ShadezofDis
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Posted - 08 May 2008 : 14:49:44
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Originally posted by Alisttair
The version in the FRCS
Do a search on the Wizards forums, there have been a legion of threads about Obould and what his stats should be, etc. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 09 May 2008 : 14:34:09
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Indeed.
I'm pretty certain that the version of Obould in the FRCS technically exists after The Orc King in terms of where it falls on the timeline. Keep in mind that the RAS novels have, for a while now at least, been behind the official "current year" on the FR timeline.
Also consider that RAS has never been one to be too concerned about official stats. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 09 May 2008 14:35:44 |
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ShadezofDis
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 09 May 2008 : 15:30:24
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Indeed.
I'm pretty certain that the version of Obould in the FRCS technically exists after The Orc King in terms of where it falls on the timeline. Keep in mind that the RAS novels have, for a while now at least, been behind the official "current year" on the FR timeline.
Also consider that RAS has never been one to be too concerned about official stats.
Yep, which you'll also find copious amounts of discussion about on the wizards boards. 
I do really suggest checking them out, Oboulds been talked to death on those boards. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 May 2008 : 15:48:18
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| Wish I could go to the wizards forums to check that out, but unfortunately, that cannot be done because the bulk of my computer time is at work and the WotC website is blocked from my job computer. |
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Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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Obould chosen of Grumussh (sp?)
