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Hawkins
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USA
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Posted - 12 Nov 2007 :  22:07:47  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I also liked the first Icewind Dale game. I have tried playing the second one a couple of times but never gotten very far into it. Too many games, too little time.

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One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane

* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives

My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Karzak
Learned Scribe

196 Posts

Posted - 12 Nov 2007 :  22:20:26  Show Profile  Visit Karzak's Homepage Send Karzak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

quote:
Originally posted by Karzak

I haven't tried the premium campaigns; don't support daylight robbery (and there're plenty of modules just as good - if not better - you can have for free). But isn't only one of them FR-specific (since Bioware themselves, I suspect, don't want to touch FR ever again)? Wyvern of... something.

Pirates of the Sword Coast and Wyvern Crown of Cormyr. I have yet to find a module that has the same polish as on made for "professionally." If you know of some, would you PM them to me?



I've not played either, but WCoC comes from the same people who made Darkness over Daggerford and, for all the technical innovation shown in that module, the writing and story were mediocre beyond all speaking. So there's no way in hell am I going to cough up dough for that thing. Pirates don't interest me all that much.

I've many module recommendations to make, but apart from a handful, they aren't FR-specific. Obviously, not having played the premiums, I can't compare the level of polish. But I'd recommend many of them over the pathetic OC and SoU campaign.

quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

I also liked the first Icewind Dale game. I have tried playing the second one a couple of times but never gotten very far into it. Too many games, too little time.



I liked the first IWD and the HoW xpack tremendously for the atmosphere. And the Ravel cameos! (Yes, Ravel from PS:T.)

Edited by - Karzak on 12 Nov 2007 22:22:07
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 13 Nov 2007 :  02:50:50  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Karzak


Or you could go play NWN/NWN2. I don't see the big giant deal with turn-based gameplay; I personally loathe it thoroughly - and anyway in BG2, you can't set it to "turn-based." You only have the option to make the game pause when enemies are spotted, and so on.



I don't really see the attraction to turn-based gameplay myself. It's true that tabletop D&D is turn-based, but it has to be--a video game doesn't have to be.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 13 Nov 2007 :  02:51:37  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

My votes go for the BG series as a whole, and for NWN:HotU. But I did really like the NWN main campaign, and NWN2 as well. Not so much NWN:SoU. Have not played NWN2:MotB yet, but hoping to in the next 2-3 months. Has anyone played the FR specific NWN Premium Campaigns? They look good.



Yes, I've played them all so far except Infinite Dungeons. I found them all to be a lot of fun, and in some cases superb.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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USA
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Posted - 13 Nov 2007 :  02:53:15  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

quote:
Originally posted by Karzak

I haven't tried the premium campaigns; don't support daylight robbery (and there're plenty of modules just as good - if not better - you can have for free). But isn't only one of them FR-specific (since Bioware themselves, I suspect, don't want to touch FR ever again)? Wyvern of... something.

Pirates of the Sword Coast and Wyvern Crown of Cormyr. I have yet to find a module that has the same polish as on made for "professionally." If you know of some, would you PM them to me?



There's also Infinite Dungeons, taking place in the Undermountain, but I haven't played it.

There truly are tons of great FR modules out there, though. Do try Darkness over Daggerford if you haven't already. It is "professional" if not a premium mod.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 13 Nov 2007 :  02:54:46  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Karzak

I've not played either, but WCoC comes from the same people who made Darkness over Daggerford and, for all the technical innovation shown in that module, the writing and story were mediocre beyond all speaking.



Not to "correct" you or anything, but strictly speaking those were two different teams.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Karzak
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 13 Nov 2007 :  12:12:11  Show Profile  Visit Karzak's Homepage Send Karzak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Really? Okay, I stand corrected.
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Hawkins
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USA
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Posted - 13 Nov 2007 :  17:08:15  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

There's also Infinite Dungeons, taking place in the Undermountain, but I haven't played it.

There truly are tons of great FR modules out there, though. Do try Darkness over Daggerford if you haven't already. It is "professional" if not a premium mod.

I will have to check Darkness over Daggerford out. Thanks RF. Maybe I will have to buy the premium modules myself and tell you guys what I think about them. So many games to play, so little time.

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One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane

* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives

My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore

Brazil
1120 Posts

Posted - 13 Nov 2007 :  17:42:17  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I finally put my hands in Neverwinter Nights 1... and I´m in love with the game, until now.

Dwarf, DM, husband, and proud of this! :P

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Hawkins
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USA
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Posted - 13 Nov 2007 :  17:54:43  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin

I finally put my hands in Neverwinter Nights 1... and I´m in love with the game, until now.


Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)

One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane

* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives

My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Aravine
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USA
608 Posts

Posted - 13 Nov 2007 :  17:59:29  Show Profile  Visit Aravine's Homepage Send Aravine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin

I finally put my hands in Neverwinter Nights 1... and I´m in love with the game, until now.





why until now?

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 13 Nov 2007 :  18:01:29  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Karzak

Really? Okay, I stand corrected.



Also, while I would agree that the story of DoD is rather "been there, done that", that's true for a lot of games, and the plot is solid if not particularly original. There are also tons of side-quests, and it's worth playing for the experience of exploring the area in and around Daggerford even if the plot itself is pretty standard fare.

Same goes for Wyvern Crown of Cormyr--a lot of new and interesting stuff (like jousting) that is worth trying for the unique experience.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 13 Nov 2007 :  18:04:07  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

There's also Infinite Dungeons, taking place in the Undermountain, but I haven't played it.

There truly are tons of great FR modules out there, though. Do try Darkness over Daggerford if you haven't already. It is "professional" if not a premium mod.

I will have to check Darkness over Daggerford out. Thanks RF. Maybe I will have to buy the premium modules myself and tell you guys what I think about them. So many games to play, so little time.



You're welcome. :) I do tend to think the premium modules are worth the money you pay for them, if not more.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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yargarth
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USA
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Posted - 14 Nov 2007 :  05:22:28  Show Profile  Visit yargarth's Homepage Send yargarth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have been off Candlekeep forever do to technical problems... mother board Dying on me !!!!!!!!
Just starting to get into NWN again... i sincerely wish to try some of these premium models but lack the internet connection to Download them... BAH.. i have also wish to try the multiplayer but yet again lack the internet connection for it... i wounder if i could torrent some of these premium models...
Nice to Be Back!

"You take a step, then another. That's the journey. But to take a step with your eyes open is not a journey at all, it's a remaking of your own mind."

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Karzak
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Posted - 14 Nov 2007 :  13:18:52  Show Profile  Visit Karzak's Homepage Send Karzak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You can't. Premium mods require an Internet connection and it'll check every time you load it up whether you've valid verification or not, as far as I recall.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 14 Nov 2007 :  16:24:24  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Right, it's a protection against piracy.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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4uk4ata
Acolyte

Bulgaria
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Posted - 19 Nov 2007 :  10:42:54  Show Profile  Visit 4uk4ata's Homepage Send 4uk4ata a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's very nice, but I can't say I approve of a non-MMO game which doesn't run if your internet connection is down.
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Karzak
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Posted - 19 Nov 2007 :  16:24:15  Show Profile  Visit Karzak's Homepage Send Karzak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So don't buy them.
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Akeri Rualuavain
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Canada
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Posted - 19 Nov 2007 :  16:46:51  Show Profile  Visit Akeri Rualuavain's Homepage Send Akeri Rualuavain a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm presently doing Pool of radiance... I find it good,but not fabulous. I played NWN 1 and 2, prefer the secound one, but the first was good enought. Had played a little bit Baldur'S gate with friend 3 years ago, but was never able to finish it...
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 20 Nov 2007 :  00:35:53  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Karzak
So don't buy them.



I agree. If you don't approve, you don't have to buy!

The authorization checks can be annoying, but if they weren't there the premium modules would be really easy to copy. I can understand why the checks are there, and they aren't exactly kept secret from the consumer, either.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)

Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 20 Nov 2007 00:36:22
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I Am Not A Bear
Acolyte

Canada
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Posted - 03 Jan 2008 :  21:30:37  Show Profile  Visit I Am Not A Bear's Homepage Send I Am Not A Bear a Private Message  Reply with Quote
NWN got me into the whole FR related games so I need to say that it's been the NWN series that have kept me interested in FR.
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Ranak
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USA
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Blood & Magic, an epic strategy game set in the mysterious Utter East - featuring the blood forges of old!

Actually, that game was awful.

I really enjoyed Throne of Bhaal - I actually beat Demogorgon, it was a glorious battle, one that I will remember (partially because I had to save - die - and reload numerous times before felling that foul demon). I also enjoyed taking Bhaal's throne. I was touched when Viconia became my high priestess.
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tenacious1
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Posted - 14 Jan 2008 :  17:22:12  Show Profile  Visit tenacious1's Homepage Send tenacious1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
1. NWN1
2. BG 1&2
3. NWN2
4. DDO

I really don't like the interface of NWN2 and the OC bored me... to much to-and-fro in chapter 2 and the world was too small for me. That graphics are sweet though.

Like someone posted earlier in this thread, online is my only outlet for DnD now, which pushes NWN ahead of everything else considerably.

I've not played DDO, but several of my NWN friends have and, in a nutshell, I hear RP is lacking.

With NWN, you can find a server that fits your style and play there... My preference is an RP centric server with low magic items and slow advancement... and good servers will usually post their game style on their forums either on bioware or their external forums.

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demonsbane
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Posted - 30 Apr 2008 :  11:43:05  Show Profile  Visit demonsbane's Homepage Send demonsbane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Curse of the Azure Bonds (my first! got it after I read the book) (Best Gold Box game)
Pools of Radiance (should be before CotAB)
Secret of the Silver Blades
Pools of Darkness
Hillsfar
Some arcade like DragonLance game (never did manage to complete it but it was fun)

I'm currently playing NWN. I hated it when it first came out many winters ago, but I retried it last year and I've actually completed the OC, SoU, and HotU multiples times over the past year. Currently bringing my dual longsword wielding Fighter/Weapon Master/Champion of Torm to slay big bad Arch-Devil Mephy after my Elven machine gun (Arcane Archer) mowed him down just a week ago.

Was about to buy the Premium Modules but saw the Internet authorization thing and decided not to. Not sure whose loss is it but lots of user campaigns to keep me occupied in their stead.

Oh yeah, should add that I switched to Linux many winters ago so I can't quite recall how BG, BG2, IWD, and IWD2 are anymore. But I vote NWN for the best game as I never found the others to be so addictive. :)
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yargarth
Seeker

USA
58 Posts

Posted - 15 May 2008 :  04:44:35  Show Profile  Visit yargarth's Homepage Send yargarth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
alright it's been a while but i have had an EPIC find,
i was talking to my friend and found out he had a cd called gamefest FR classics and this is what the disk had on it:
Pool of radience
curse of azure bonds
secert of the silver blades
pools of darkness
hillsfar
eye of the beholder 1, 2 AND 3
dungeon hack
gateway to the savage frontier
treasures of the savage frontier
menzoberranzan
Blood and magic
baldurs gate demo


ALL of this on ONE CD. the only problem is that the anti stealing things require you to say what word is on page 33 in the manuel and i do not have that so i can only play some of the games. But this was still an incredible find!

"You take a step, then another. That's the journey. But to take a step with your eyes open is not a journey at all, it's a remaking of your own mind."

-Orson Scott Card
Ender in Exile
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Talwyn
Learned Scribe

Australia
222 Posts

Posted - 18 Jul 2008 :  01:14:28  Show Profile  Visit Talwyn's Homepage Send Talwyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Without out a doubt I'd place BGII - Shadows of Amn & it's follow up, The Throne of Bhaal as the best PC D&D game ever released.

BG still has a special placed in my heart but BGII was just such a step forward in what you could do. I only wish Biotec kept putting out those sort of games. There are fan based mods you can get which make for a new game experience but there's nothing like getting a properly developed game from a great game company.

NWN & NWNII are good but I never really warmed to the play system. NWN reall draw card hough was the persistant worlds where you can RP a D&D character for FREE and have some really good fun. Beat the crap out of WoW etc as it costs you nothing to play and the quality of the RP and players in general is light years ahead above the quest whores that proliferate WoW.

As for NWNII, the campaign that came with it was bleh for my tastes, very mediocre indeed. In fact I stopped playing about 2/3's of the way into the game and have never started it up since. Can't be bothered with it and I no longer have the time to play online anyway so I can't say if there are any good player made modules or presistant worlds out there but I'm sure there are.


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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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USA
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Posted - 18 Jul 2008 :  02:13:41  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Talwyn
I only wish Biotec...



Bioware.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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Talwyn
Learned Scribe

Australia
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Posted - 18 Jul 2008 :  03:12:35  Show Profile  Visit Talwyn's Homepage Send Talwyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by Talwyn
I only wish Biotec...



Bioware.



*ahem*

I stand corrected - the morning coffee hadn't quite kicked in

Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on.
Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun.
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Alisttair
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Canada
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Posted - 18 Jul 2008 :  11:53:58  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am playing BGT right now cause the story is great (this is my 5th time going through the game) but I have tried NWN2 online so that may addict me, along with everything else I try to cram into my time (reading, D&D and life).

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Seainna Mistwalker
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Posted - 23 Jul 2008 :  12:15:08  Show Profile  Visit Seainna Mistwalker's Homepage Send Seainna Mistwalker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
BG II: SoA & BG II: ToB , easily
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