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hammer of Moradin
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Posted - 30 Nov 2006 :  17:50:06  Show Profile  Visit hammer of Moradin's Homepage Send hammer of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Mark Sehestedt, longtime editor (curator?) of Dragonlance and, recently, Eberron ficton, has his first novel out. Read it, join the book club discussion on it, and, most importantly, enjoy it.

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Posted - 01 Dec 2006 :  17:02:59  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hammer of Moradin

Mark Sehestedt, longtime editor (curator?) of Dragonlance and, recently, Eberron ficton, has his first novel out. Read it, join the book club discussion on it, and, most importantly, enjoy it.



Well met

Indeed, thank ye, hammer In fact, whilst the tome may not be on the shelves until a tenday or so, i'll be putting up the Book Club threads later tonight. Hope to see many of ye there over the next month or so

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Mark S.
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Posted - 01 Dec 2006 :  18:45:50  Show Profile  Visit Mark S.'s Homepage Send Mark S. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo
In fact, whilst the tome may not be on the shelves until a tenday or so, i'll be putting up the Book Club threads later tonight.



Official on-sale date is December 5th, but this isn't one of those books with a strict on-sale date. The book is shipping now, and retailers are allowed to shelve it as soon as it hits the stores. That being said, this is the holiday season, and as a former retailer myself, I know that boxes and boxes of books can sit in the back room because employees are swamped helping customers.

I hope everyone likes it, and I look forward to reading everyone's comments.

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hammer of Moradin
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Ask for it. Some places let it sit in the back room because they see a date, and like Mark said, this is not a strict date, it's just when they expected it to be released.

It will introduce you to an area of the Realms that many of us know little about, but Mark brings to life with vivid strokes of the pen.

I'm thinking Mark's title should read something other than Acolyte, don't you Alaundo?

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turox
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Posted - 01 Dec 2006 :  19:54:19  Show Profile  Visit turox's Homepage Send turox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So question for someone(Hammer really as I am blaming my curiosity on him. Can I read this book with out reading the first 3 or would I be totally lost?

Thanks

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Will read this book eventually, though I do have other books on my to-read pile I'll probably read first. Still, I'll definitely get around to it.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by turox

So question for someone(Hammer really as I am blaming my curiosity on him. Can I read this book with out reading the first 3 or would I be totally lost?

Thanks



The class books have all been standalone novels.

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turox
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Posted - 01 Dec 2006 :  21:52:45  Show Profile  Visit turox's Homepage Send turox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Wooly, I will go this weekend and see if I can find it.

Turox Antas Dragonslayer -
"People will believe anything they want to believe, or fear to believe."
Wizard's First Rule: Chapter 36, Page #397, US Hard Cover (revealed by Zeddicus Zu'l Zorander).
Explanation by Zeddicus Zu'l Zorander: "People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People’s heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool."
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Alaundo
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Posted - 01 Dec 2006 :  23:07:46  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hammer of Moradin

I'm thinking Mark's title should read something other than Acolyte, don't you Alaundo?



Well met

Quite right, hammer. Must have slipped through the net at some point. 'tis corrected

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Lord Nemes
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Posted - 02 Dec 2006 :  01:59:14  Show Profile  Visit Lord Nemes's Homepage Send Lord Nemes a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I got my copy wednesday. It's always good news to receive a book 1 or 2 weeks before time...

There is still a lot of books on my "to read" list but I think it will be among the next books I'll read. It seems interesting.

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MerrikCale
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quote:
Originally posted by turox

Thanks Wooly, I will go this weekend and see if I can find it.



But I still might read them. I'm in the middle of Bloodwalk and I like it. The characters are memorable.



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Besshalar
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 :  13:00:08  Show Profile  Visit Besshalar's Homepage Send Besshalar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Where exactly is the lake of mists I don't have any of my maps about and I can't find a mention in FRCS .

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Ergdusch
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The Lake of Mists can be found just west of Thay and the Sunrise Mountains in the Hordelands, also known as the Endless Wastes. Its name comes from the water that continuously evaporates off its surface. The only major settlement at this lake is the town of Almorel at the lake's southwest borders. Not much lore is covered of this part of Fearun in the FRCS but you can read about it in the Unapproachable Eastand in the 2nd. Ed. sourcebook The Horde to be found at WotC download site. (Wolly, here you go again!)

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Ergdusch

The Lake of Mists can be found just west of Thay and the Sunrise Mountains in the Hordelands, also known as the Endless Wastes. Its name comes from the water that continuously evaporates off its surface. The only major settlement at this lake is the town of Almorel at the lake's southwest borders. Not much lore is covered of this part of Fearun in the FRCS but you can read about it in the Unapproachable Eastand in the 2nd. Ed. sourcebook The Horde to be found at WotC download site. (Wolly, here you go again!)



Here's the link: the Wizards downloads page.

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Ergdusch
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Ergdusch

The Lake of Mists can be found just west of Thay and the Sunrise Mountains in the Hordelands, also known as the Endless Wastes. Its name comes from the water that continuously evaporates off its surface. The only major settlement at this lake is the town of Almorel at the lake's southwest borders. Not much lore is covered of this part of Fearun in the FRCS but you can read about it in the Unapproachable Eastand in the 2nd. Ed. sourcebook The Horde to be found at WotC download site. (Wolly, here you go again!)



Here's the link: the Wizards downloads page.



Amazing how well this works!

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Besshalar
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 :  18:27:59  Show Profile  Visit Besshalar's Homepage Send Besshalar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks that is so far to the east that I hardly ever look at that part of the maps anyway.

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Ergdusch
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IIRC it is not even on the poster map of the FRCS anymore, and not to be found on any of the regional maps in the UE. Apparently the game designers themselves have not looked so far to the East since 1990.

Edit note:
I was incorreect! There has been at least someone that looked at this remote part since 1990, and that very recently. In Dragon #349 (Nov 06 issue) all of the hordelands has been revisited, including the Lake of Mists. I see my error.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 05 Dec 2006 :  19:29:57  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OK, I bought this novel today, along with Darkvision (and a non-fiction, non-FR related hardcover by Richard Dawkins ), and it's in my to-read pile. The story hook greatly interests me...I can't remember the last time I read a fantasy novel about a mother's search for her child. That's refreshing.

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ShadowJack
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Just picked this book up at my local bookstore. I can not wait to read it after the sample chapter from WotC website. I know it will be a good read when the first chapter leaves me wanting more! I also like his choice of classes so far. A War Wizard, a Raumathar Battlemage, I am intrigued! Now what was a group of War Wizards doing that far east?

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Lord Rad
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I'm really looking forward to reading this book but I haven't seen it in any stores here in the UK so far

The Wizards series has been great so far and i'm intrigued to see Mark's work for the first time as an author.

It'll be nice to read a "frosty" novel this winter too...(despite being Englands warmest winter since the 1600's )

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Xysma
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I started on this book today and so far it is really cool (sorry for the pun, couldn't help it). I hope I can explain this well enough, the writing style is very visual, the pages just come to life. I particularly liked the introduction of the "frost folk," does anyone know if they are an existing subrace? I remember reading about frost dwarves (Frostburn I think) but I can't recall the frost folk.

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KnightErrantJR
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They have actually been around since the 1st edition Fiend Folio, but I don't think there was much about them in 2nd edition. In 3.5 they finally get officially updated in Frostburn.
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Xysma
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quote:
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They have actually been around since the 1st edition Fiend Folio, but I don't think there was much about them in 2nd edition. In 3.5 they finally get officially updated in Frostburn.



Thanks KEJR

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Ergdusch
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Ain't the frost folk discribed in the 3.5 Frostburn sourcebook very much comparable to the earth's inuits (eskimos)?

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KnightErrantJR
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The Frost Folk are the creepy guys that can shoot a blast of cold out of their left eye, and have pale skin and hair.

Ice Folk (yeah, the name is a little too similar) are what you are thinking of, and they match up pretty well with the inhabitants of the Great Glacier, as described in FR 14 Great Glacier.
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Bocklin
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Just a couple of questions about this novel (I am considering picking it up):

- How much of the Unnaproachable East can be "seen" in it? Is it just "wilderness -> Winterkeep" or does the character travels around, let's say in Rashemen and one does actually gets to read bits about Rashemen?

- Where does the main character hail from?

In advance, thanks a lot!

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Mark S.
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Posted - 23 Dec 2006 :  07:05:41  Show Profile  Visit Mark S.'s Homepage Send Mark S. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bocklin
- How much of the Unnaproachable East can be "seen" in it? Is it just "wilderness -> Winterkeep" or does the character travels around, let's say in Rashemen and one does actually gets to read bits about Rashemen?


The story opens in the woods north of the Lake of Mists (out by Almorel). There's a bit of the Wastes, a new site called Hro'nyewachu, and Winterkeep. No Rasheman at all.


quote:
Originally posted by Bocklin- Where does the main character hail from?


Cormyr.
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Bocklin
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Interesting! Thanks Mark.

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