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TomCosta
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Posted - 21 Nov 2006 :  00:47:25  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hi folks,

I'm working on a new thought for my campaign and can't quite remember the status of Nesme following the most recent Drizzt trilogy. Warning possible spoilers below.












Any help? My recollection is that the trolls overran and pretty much leveled the city and the survivors fled through tunnels, becoming a Silver Marches diaspora, but I can't recall if some of the survivors went back to the city to rebuild and don't have my books with me. Any details (even names) would be very much appreciated. Thanks folks.

scererar
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Posted - 21 Nov 2006 :  01:33:04  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
it is fairly trashed, after the last Drizzt novel. I would imagine any adventure plot, that was built around reconstruction or re-establishing a community, would be interesting. Hard feelings with the local dwarven communities vs. the residents of nesme would not be out of order. So a strong leader type with the ability to smooth out the polictical turmoil would be important/ or maybe as an adventure plot, have a leader who is the exact opposite, which could result in the adventurers getting into the middle. overall, I would say, the possibilities are about endless. Heres to new Nesme
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 21 Nov 2006 :  03:52:11  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm just an optimist/idealist, but I'd like to think that eventually, the people of Nesme would want to rebuild the town if possible. It was afterall their home.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Shadovar
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Posted - 21 Nov 2006 :  04:03:48  Show Profile  Visit Shadovar's Homepage Send Shadovar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It is under my impression that Nesme is being turned into a temporary(maybe) military garrison by the military of the Silver Marches, as it was mentioned by Lady Alustriel that there were wizards patrolling the walls of Nesme against possible troll return and i think there might be possible remaking of Nesme from a town to a garrison and town at the same time. It can be fairly certain that most refugees would return there if they can stomach the thought of staying in a place where they had experienced a lot of trauma and everyday braving the risk of a possible assault/siege.

I say even if the residents return, there might be some mixed feelings towards the local dwarves, an obvious combination of grudging gratitude and resentment. Gratitude for the dwarves sacrifice to help the fleeing refugees when the trolls came and resentment for sending aid at such a slow pace, and the surviving Captain of the Nesme Riders, Galen Firth, might use this as an good way to further sympathy for Nesme and her people, build up tension against the dwarves for petty reasons and even consolidate his power and further his personal ambitions. Galen Firth maybe a hero to the Nesme people for today but maybe a devious foe the next day.

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scererar
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Posted - 21 Nov 2006 :  04:26:45  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

I'm just an optimist/idealist, but I'd like to think that eventually, the people of Nesme would want to rebuild the town if possible. It was afterall their home.



absolutly, Nesme, has always been one of my favorite FR towns. I do think that there will be even more tension with the local Dwarven populations though. Most likely spurred on by whoever assumes the next level of leadership there. That being said, yes it is a home, a place of security, and I feel that the folk of Nesme will return more determined than ever, to carve out an existance there.
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Zimme
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Posted - 21 Nov 2006 :  11:35:31  Show Profile Send Zimme a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In my humble opinon Nesme will be rebuild. there is also mention of it in two swords!

Sometimes I feel like Beshaba is sitting on my back, devoting her entire attention to me!

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TomCosta
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Posted - 21 Nov 2006 :  11:51:21  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks everybody. That's what I was looking for.
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TomCosta
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Posted - 21 Nov 2006 :  12:05:13  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually another quick question. I remember I had difficulty dating the novels when I was working up the article on the Lone Drow for the WotC website, but settled on 1371, but memory is that Salvatore ends up dating them in a later book. Can anyone recall the dates of the novels?
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Kuje
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Posted - 21 Nov 2006 :  16:43:03  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TomCosta

Actually another quick question. I remember I had difficulty dating the novels when I was working up the article on the Lone Drow for the WotC website, but settled on 1371, but memory is that Salvatore ends up dating them in a later book. Can anyone recall the dates of the novels?



1371, according to RAS's tale in Realms of the Elves which is a short tale with Drizzt and Inno where they find the settlement Obould is creating. This tale takes place only a bit after the events of the trilogy.

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Edited by - Kuje on 21 Nov 2006 16:43:37
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dwarvenranger
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Posted - 21 Nov 2006 :  17:28:01  Show Profile  Visit dwarvenranger's Homepage Send dwarvenranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I thought that read somewhere that Nesme was on the verge of destruction, from the giants that have moved into the northern evermoors.

If I waited till I knew what I was doing, I'd never get anything done.


Edited by - dwarvenranger on 21 Nov 2006 17:29:00
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TomCosta
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Posted - 21 Nov 2006 :  21:29:21  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks again everyone.
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George Krashos
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Posted - 21 Nov 2006 :  22:57:13  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TomCosta

Actually another quick question. I remember I had difficulty dating the novels when I was working up the article on the Lone Drow for the WotC website, but settled on 1371, but memory is that Salvatore ends up dating them in a later book. Can anyone recall the dates of the novels?



Tom,

Brian James noted that one of the "collector's editions" of the Crystal Shard gave some novel datings. Check his response here:

http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7734&SearchTerms=obould

-- George Krashos



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Genis
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Posted - 21 Nov 2006 :  23:30:43  Show Profile  Visit Genis's Homepage Send Genis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
o i think it will be...but nesmeians are such pains maybe they shouldnt rebuild it...all the help the dwarves offer and they still complain and hold grudges agisnt them....didnt general dagna himself sacrifice his life for nesme!!!! and galen firth should be shot with a explosive dart of Ivan Bouldershoulders!...hehe

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Edited by - Kuje on 21 Nov 2006 23:48:48
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The Sage
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Posted - 22 Nov 2006 :  00:00:30  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by TomCosta

Actually another quick question. I remember I had difficulty dating the novels when I was working up the article on the Lone Drow for the WotC website, but settled on 1371, but memory is that Salvatore ends up dating them in a later book. Can anyone recall the dates of the novels?



1371, according to RAS's tale in Realms of the Elves which is a short tale with Drizzt and Inno where they find the settlement Obould is creating. This tale takes place only a bit after the events of the trilogy.

Silver Marches supports the 1371 DR date also.

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Zimme
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Posted - 22 Nov 2006 :  09:44:02  Show Profile Send Zimme a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Genis

o i think it will be...but nesmeians are such pains maybe they shouldnt rebuild it...all the help the dwarves offer and they still complain and hold grudges agisnt them....didnt general dagna himself sacrifice his life for nesme!!!! and galen firth should be shot with a explosive dart of Ivan Bouldershoulders!...hehe

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I agree, they are portraied as quite the a....... Especially Galen Firth

Sometimes I feel like Beshaba is sitting on my back, devoting her entire attention to me!

Rannek.

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TomCosta
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Posted - 22 Nov 2006 :  11:37:14  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks George and everyone else yet again. You guys rock.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 22 Nov 2006 :  20:57:20  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Genis

o i think it will be...but nesmeians are such pains maybe they shouldnt rebuild it...all the help the dwarves offer and they still complain and hold grudges agisnt them....didnt general dagna himself sacrifice his life for nesme!!!! and galen firth should be shot with a explosive dart of Ivan Bouldershoulders!...hehe




The people of Nesme are such pains? Why? They are just people like from any other town. Don't condemn them all just because Galen Firth left a bad impression.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)

Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 22 Nov 2006 20:57:35
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Reefy
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Posted - 22 Nov 2006 :  22:34:58  Show Profile  Visit Reefy's Homepage Send Reefy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by Genis

o i think it will be...but nesmeians are such pains maybe they shouldnt rebuild it...all the help the dwarves offer and they still complain and hold grudges agisnt them....didnt general dagna himself sacrifice his life for nesme!!!! and galen firth should be shot with a explosive dart of Ivan Bouldershoulders!...hehe




The people of Nesme are such pains? Why? They are just people like from any other town. Don't condemn them all just because Galen Firth left a bad impression.



No, but first impressions count, particularly from people who are supposed to represent a community.

Life is either daring adventure or nothing.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 22 Nov 2006 :  23:39:50  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But we're readers. We're "above it all". We should know better.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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MerrikCale
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

But we're readers. We're "above it all". We should know better.



Yeah. I know I do



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