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Enialus Meliamne
Acolyte
Portugal
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 Posted - 08 Jan 2007 : 12:47:51
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Never heard of an assasin of the Harpers. Who might that be???
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Arilyn from Songs and Swords series was a Harper Assassin. |
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Delzounblood
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jan 2007 : 13:11:44
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Ok just to be awkward how about The Harper's Assassin.
I do not mean Arilyn I mean K'shar from Curse of the Shadowmage by Mark Anthony.
Though in the book he is described as "The best hunter the Harpers had" not an assassin as such but he hunts and kills for the harpers.
He was a 1/2 or a 1/4 drow or something.
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Grandmaster Kane
Seeker
64 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2007 : 00:00:35
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Originally posted by Ranin
I don't think think anyone person can kill Drizzt, unless they are ultra divinely powerful. I admire Entreri due to the fact that he uses NO magic. ONLY sheer skill brought on by living from childhood in the streets of the most dangerous cities of the Realms. I was born in a dangerous city and can relate to that, which is why I relate a bit to him.
Even the Drow of Menzobaranzan said, "..a pity that he is not drow.", in admiration. Why would Jarlaxle team up with Entreri if he was'nt the greatest of all assasins. He was the only human the drow actually respected, from my readings anyways, and besides the psionicism bestowed by Jarlaxle's cohorts, Entreri had no magic abilities like that of a divine disciple of Mask for example.
What is so amazing about Entreri is how he is equally matched with Drizzt, or almost, in sword play, and Drizzt, being a drow, has had more life experience. Salvatore does not let Entreri die because he is an assasin of assasins.
Lies entei uses almost as much magic as drizzt with the exception of the armor (which is oretty uch useless agaisnt charons claw anyway) and the barcers of speed but thoses are spoils of victory and well deserved |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 21 Jan 2007 : 00:56:32
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Entreri lies?
I've often found him to be the personification of truth - - his truth! 
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Zanan
Senior Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 21 Jan 2007 : 22:20:35
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Well ... regarding the Jaezred Chaulssin an excerpt from my NPC list ...
CHAULSSIN - The City of Wyrmshadows
House of Master Assassins: *Jaezred Chaulssin (with the following members, all Vhaeraunians)
Durrelon Claddmtor (male young adult drow dragon, Rgr/Asn) Chaulssin and Dusklyngh
Ilphtrim (male adult drow dragon, Rog/Ftr/Asn) Chaulssin and Sschindylryn
Mauzzkyl Jaezred (male great wyrm drow dragon, Sor/ Asn) Patron Grandfather, Chaulssin
Quildan Oussgyhm (male young adult drow dragon, Rog/Asn) Chaulssin and Karsoluthiyl
Tomphael Arkenrret (male mature drow dragon, Wiz/Asn) Patron Father, Chaulssin and Eryndlyn
Vesz'zt Auvryana (male adult vampiric drow dragon, Rog/Asn) Chaulssin and Maerimydra
Xorthaul Barriaths (male mature adult drow dragon, Rog/Clr of Vhaeraun/Asn) Patron Father, Chaulssin and Jhachalkhyn
Zammzt Everharn (mature adult drow dragon, Rog/Asn) Patron Father, Chaulssin and Ched Nasad
(For information on drow dragons see Dragons of Faerûn, p. 44)
Nimor Imphraezl (md, half-shadow dragon, Rog3/Ftr4/Asn9) Anointed Blade of the Jaezred Chaulssin
- aliases used by Nimor were: Reethk Vaszune (Menzo, trader in spell components), Zhayemd Dyrr (Captain & scout of House Agrach Dyrr of Menzo)
... no levels et all given for obvious reasons. You could find them in Dragons of Faerûn, of course ...
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Grandmaster Kane
Seeker
64 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2007 : 12:07:08
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WTF ^^^^
Never heard of a drow dragon before lol
I Beleve that Fzoul is the most dangerous assassin (The grandfather of assassins can lick his boots) What with his direct connection to bane, he runs a powerful organization (zhentirium)and he is a chosen one in control of a minor but powerful artifact
plus he is a pretty damn good cleric |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Grandmaster Kane
Seeker
64 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2007 : 11:54:16
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Are there any stats or specfic stories about the grand father of assasins?
i ve only seen references to him and frankly im not impressed |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36968 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2007 : 00:37:10
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
A just used one hour, trying to find which dragon magazine “the grandfather of assassins” is in, and I am sorry
to say that i can’t find him.
I am 99% sure that I did read about him in one of my many dragon magazine’s, but now I can’t find out which.
Are there one of the sage’s in here that could help me out?
Did you consult The DragonDex? |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2007 : 01:48:02
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If it's not referenced on the DragonDex, then there's every likelihood that it wasn't included in DRAGON.
Perhaps you've seen it as part of an D&D article on the WotC site? Some of their more "rules-heavy" articles tend to feature subjects on fighters and the like...
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36968 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2007 : 03:36:56
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Originally posted by The Sage
If it's not referenced on the DragonDex, then there's every likelihood that it wasn't included in DRAGON.
Perhaps you've seen it as part of an D&D article on the WotC site? Some of their more "rules-heavy" articles tend to feature subjects on fighters and the like...
Or, it's referenced under something else. As in, a write-up of "Bob Smith", who happens to be the grandfather of assassins, rather than a write-up of "the grandfather of assassins." |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Grandmaster Kane
Seeker
64 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2007 : 11:59:01
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by The Sage
If it's not referenced on the DragonDex, then there's every likelihood that it wasn't included in DRAGON.
Perhaps you've seen it as part of an D&D article on the WotC site? Some of their more "rules-heavy" articles tend to feature subjects on fighters and the like...
Or, it's referenced under something else. As in, a write-up of "Bob Smith", who happens to be the grandfather of assassins, rather than a write-up of "the grandfather of assassins."
Try searching for him as Timshenko (or something like that) |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Zanan
Senior Scribe
Germany
942 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jan 2007 : 17:59:48
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| Coming to think of it, Lolth is reported as posing as Zinzerena on Toril. And that she's been seen around that one oh-so famous city up there beneath the North. Imagine someone posing as a demipower of chaos, assassins and illusion using her avatar ... and try to beat this. ;) |
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Grandmaster Kane
Seeker
64 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2007 : 05:01:11
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| in the Fr campaign setting it says that the grandfater of assasins is Lord Tagreth and is only ftr3/rog7/asn7 but i have trouble seeing knellict (17 wiz/ 2 asn) follwing that guy |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2007 : 05:09:06
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Well, two things here . . . level isn't everything. If he is skilled and knows "the trade" and has the loyalty of a large number of the important members, and is well connected and thus more effective as a leader, it doesn't really matter what level the character is.
However, if you shift this around and look at the levels, Knellect is only two levels "higher" than Tagreth, which isn't a whole hell of a lot and in the "real world" of the FR setting, it would be hard for a person that can't see what stats another person has, to figure out much of a difference between a 17th level character and a 19th level character.
The other thing is that some people just aren't that comfortable in some positions of authority. Knellect might be fine leading a group of assassin trained wizards, but isn't as comfortable leading a group of rogues and fighters that obviously use different methods for their trade, even if they do the same thing in the end, the methods to get to that point is different. |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2007 : 00:57:27
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Originally posted by Grandmaster Kane
in the Fr campaign setting it says that the grandfater of assasins is Lord Tagreth and is only ftr3/rog7/asn7 but i have trouble seeing knellict (17 wiz/ 2 asn) follwing that guy
I agree with what Knight said - level isn't everything. But if you do look at their character levels, Lord Tagreth *HAS* more assassin levels than Knellict (whom evidently relies on magic to kill his victims).
Lord Tagreth used to be a member of a very old, powerful and respected noble house, with connections (probably) all around Faerûn. It is also likely that he possesses a high Diplomacy score, Charisma and Leadership-feat - not to mention that he may have also used propaganda to bolster his reputation as a deadly schemer and assassin even beyond his not-so-modest abilities in these fields. |
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Aravine
Senior Scribe
USA
608 Posts |
Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 15:51:49
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| any rougue who kills a dragon. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 16:48:16
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
Jaezred Chaulssin.??? Where can i find info on this Drakul?
The Dragons of Faerun, Part 3: City of Wyrmshadows Web Enhancement covers them pretty well. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 18:23:15
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| I would agree with anyone who thinks the most dangerous assassin is someone no one's ever heard of. A smart assassin doesn't call attention to himself (or herself). |
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AlorinDawn
Learned Scribe
USA
313 Posts |
Posted - 05 Nov 2007 : 23:54:44
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Originally posted by Ranin
I admire Entreri due to the fact that he uses NO magic.
The blade Entrari uses is VERY magic, so was ther cloak of the bat he used. |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4256 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2007 : 01:25:53
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Originally posted by AlorinDawn
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Originally posted by Ranin
I admire Entreri due to the fact that he uses NO magic.
The blade Entrari uses is VERY magic, so was ther cloak of the bat he used.
Perhaps they meant he doesn't cast spells. |
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Amraz one arm
Acolyte
Netherlands
42 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2007 : 15:28:54
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Well I think the top assassin in the realms would have to be, a highly succesfull cleric/assassin of Cyric. And probably a loner-type. Who's only motivation is murder and getting away with it.
What good would it do, to be famous when all it wants to do is murder and murder some more. A Jack the Ripper with no trade-marks. |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4256 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2007 : 16:32:41
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| The most dangerous Assassin in Faerun: do they have to have the assassin prestige class? |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 06 Nov 2007 : 17:04:24
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Originally posted by dalor_darden
The most dangerous Assassin in Faerun: do they have to have the assassin prestige class?
I would vote no on that. They should just have to kill people for a living; whether that be money or politics or something else that benefits them. The assassin PrC helps them in this, but is not necessary. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 Nov 2007 : 17:10:17
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I think that my vote has to go to Malak, Seraph of Lies, and Chosen of Cyric. He is willing to do anything, and I mean anything, if he thinks it is in the best interest of his god, even if his god disagrees with him. And he is running around with the heart of his god in his chest. Then again, he might not have gotten away from Ruha at the end of the RotAW. But I am betting that he did. I would so read another book with him as a key character. |
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Brynweir
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 06 Nov 2007 : 17:21:04
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I think that the best assassin could be known as a great assassin as long as no one knew his real identity. You know, he could have a standard MO or even a calling card to identify who did the work, but no one would know who he was. His alter ego would be someone that no one wold ever suspect of being an assassin.
Think The Scarlet Pimpernel (great movie if you've never seen it)who was not an assassin but you get the point. |
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