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Lawfire
Acolyte
USA
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 Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 04:09:17
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I am researching the Zhentarim and the Church of Bane. Right now I am trying to determine what cities, strongholds and territories are under Zhent and/or Banite control. I am hoping you fine folks can assist me with this. I have a fair amount of Forgotten Realms sourcebooks, but I would like to prioritize my next purchases. If you could look over my list and check for errors, and let me know if you find any missing, I would appreciate it. If you could point me towards the right book(s) for additional information, that would be greatly appreciated too.
The list I have so far is(from FRCS and Lords of Darkness):
Main Holdings:
Zhentil Keep
Citadel of the Raven
Darkhold (Cyricist Zhents?)
Moonsea/Surrounding Area:
Teshwave
Voonlar
Yulash
Tethamar Fortress
Whitehorn (The Ride) [Mining Camp]
Hillsfar?
Other:
Mintar (Lake of Steam) [Banite]
Llorkh (Savage Frontier) [Cyricist Zhents?]
Phsant (Thesk) [Semi-retired orc soldiers]
Reth (Chondath) [Zhent target- Bane's Temple of Dark Eyes]
Kzelter (Tethyr?) [Saw mention of it somewhere, but I cannot find solid info]
Am I wrong (outdated) or missing anything? Also with Daggerdale independent again, does that affect Zhent traffic on the Black Road?
Thanks,
-Lawfire
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Na-Gang
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
348 Posts |
Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 10:16:54
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| Isn't there a city or town on the Eastern end of the Lake of Steam that's coming under Cyricist control? I vaguely remember something about the Banites of Mintar not knowing about it. I may have dreamt that of course. |
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Marc
Senior Scribe
662 Posts |
Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 13:07:10
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| Yes Ransar Pristoleph of Innarlith has secret ties with Cyric but that doesn't have direct ties with Zhentarim |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 16:28:07
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Originally posted by Maruluthu Mistrivvin
Yes Ransar Pristoleph of Innarlith has secret ties with Cyric but that doesn't have direct ties with Zhentarim
Sigh.
Don't get me started on this NPC. :) All I'll say is look at my 3/3.5E NPC list and cringe. |
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Edited by - Kuje on 30 Oct 2006 16:55:16 |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 16:46:33
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You can learn much about Pristoleph by reading the Watercourse trilogy.
Kzelter is controled by Banite forces from Mintar, see LoI and a portal article on Wizards site.
About the Zhent traffic on the Black Road, what about the Shades and the events in Sons of Thunder ?
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 16:59:27
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Originally posted by Skeptic
About the Zhent traffic on the Black Road, what about the Shades and the events in Sons of Thunder ?
** Minor Spoiler **
to add on...the Black Road is mapped out in the 2E Anauroch supplement and the 2E Cult of the Dragon book has information about the Zhents, the Black Road, the undead blue dragon suzarian (sp?) and the Cult of the Dragon
Shade and the Black Road I think is briefly covered in Lords of Darkness  , and at end of the Return of the Wizards storyline you see what happens to that ndead blue dragon suzarian (sp?) and Shade |
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Marc
Senior Scribe
662 Posts |
Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 18:56:03
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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
quote:
Originally posted by Maruluthu Mistrivvin
Yes Ransar Pristoleph of Innarlith has secret ties with Cyric but that doesn't have direct ties with Zhentarim
Sigh.
Don't get me started on this NPC. :) All I'll say is look at my 3/3.5E NPC list and cringe.
Yes I've also noticed that
BTW I've ordered Watercourse more than a month ago  if there's some update on this ... |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 19:25:55
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Originally posted by Maruluthu Mistrivvin
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
quote:
Originally posted by Maruluthu Mistrivvin
Yes Ransar Pristoleph of Innarlith has secret ties with Cyric but that doesn't have direct ties with Zhentarim
Sigh.
Don't get me started on this NPC. :) All I'll say is look at my 3/3.5E NPC list and cringe.
Yes I've also noticed that
BTW I've ordered Watercourse more than a month ago if there's some update on this ...
There might be. I haven't started that trilogy yet because I'm waiting for the last book to come out. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Lawfire
Acolyte
USA
38 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 01:21:51
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Originally posted by Skeptic
Kzelter is controled by Banite forces from Mintar, see LoI and a portal article on Wizards site.
I am not sure with what LoI is? I did check out the Portals articles, thanks for the heads up.
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About the Zhent traffic on the Black Road, what about the Shades and the events in Sons of Thunder ?
According to Lords of Darkness there hasn't been a direct conflict with the Shades along the Black road yet, but I'm sure something's coming.
I am not familiar with the events in Son's of Thunder.
Thanks for the help.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 02:03:02
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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
quote:
Originally posted by Maruluthu Mistrivvin
Yes Ransar Pristoleph of Innarlith has secret ties with Cyric but that doesn't have direct ties with Zhentarim
Sigh.
Don't get me started on this NPC. :) All I'll say is look at my 3/3.5E NPC list and cringe.
Get started. I want to know what your opinion is. |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 03:31:18
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Originally posted by Lawfire
I am not sure with what LoI is?
Lands of Intrigue, a must have 2e accessory. |
Edited by - Skeptic on 31 Oct 2006 03:31:46 |
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Lawfire
Acolyte
USA
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Lawfire
Acolyte
USA
38 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 04:25:28
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| Thanks, I'm printing it out right now. |
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Zimme
Learned Scribe
Denmark
209 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 07:50:22
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Originally posted by Na-Gang
Isn't there a city or town on the Eastern end of the Lake of Steam that's coming under Cyricist control? I vaguely remember something about the Banites of Mintar not knowing about it. I may have dreamt that of course.
I belive that the city's name is Mintar, home of the prophet of Bane. |
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lowtech
Learned Scribe
USA
315 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2006 : 22:25:22
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The city of Mourktar contains "the largest temple of Bane in the Realms"...so naturally, they left that city of the map in the sourcebook.
Anyway, you can read all about it in Dragons of Faerun. |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Lawfire
Acolyte
USA
38 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2006 : 03:21:59
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| Thanks to all, and keep it coming! Any little tidbit about the Zhentarim or the Church of Bane would be appreciated. |
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Twilight
Seeker
Canada
68 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2006 : 07:38:17
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| I wish I lived in Zhentil Keep |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Zimme
Learned Scribe
Denmark
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Posted - 14 Nov 2006 : 13:18:21
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| hehe Victor you have peculiar taste in choosing location for a cosy home!! =) |
Sometimes I feel like Beshaba is sitting on my back, devoting her entire attention to me!
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 14 Nov 2006 : 15:03:04
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
If my memory serves me right, there was this old priest lich under Zhentil keep.
I think all the Baneliches were destroyed with Fzoul's ascention |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 14 Nov 2006 : 15:30:23
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| Actually, at least one "lived" on to cause a bit of a bother in Daggerdale and Sigil. (see Finder's Bane.) |
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Na-Gang
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
348 Posts |
Posted - 21 Nov 2006 : 11:36:56
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Originally posted by Maruluthu Mistrivvin
Yes Ransar Pristoleph of Innarlith has secret ties with Cyric but that doesn't have direct ties with Zhentarim
Innarlith! That was it! Thanks.
Additionally. Are there any known Banite or Cyricist strongholds, organisations or activity south of The Shaar? |
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Lawfire
Acolyte
USA
38 Posts |
Posted - 24 Nov 2007 : 20:13:20
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| I dug up this old topic instead of starting a new one. I'm wondering if anyone has more information on Zhent lands and holdings? |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 24 Nov 2007 : 22:46:42
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The Zhentarim (by way of Zhentilar soldiers) is now in control of Phlan on the Moonsea as well.
Mulmaster is now part of the Zhentarim...even if its citizens know nothing of the fact.
Hillsfar is controlled by the Zhents now (as of the publishing of the Grand History of the Realms).
Shadowdale was held by them for a while recently (if you are keeping up with adventures published by WotC).
That is all I can remember right now without looking at books. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 24 Nov 2007 : 23:48:41
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Originally posted by Kalin Agrivar
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
If my memory serves me right, there was this old priest lich under Zhentil keep.
I think all the Baneliches were destroyed with Fzoul's ascention
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Actually, at least one "lived" on to cause a bit of a bother in Daggerdale and Sigil. (see Finder's Bane.)
Fzoul Chembryl destroyed one of these liches with an ancient Netherese artifact, while Xvim’s Tyrantfog destroyed the others.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Apr 2008 : 01:41:22
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I don't have the answer, but I'll speculate (if you don't mind ).
The Ride might technically be independent and not actually a legal domain of the Zhentarim, but it could still be under the influence of the Zhents thanks to being in such close proximity to them (and perhaps having nothing with which to counter said influence). |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 21 Apr 2008 : 02:17:35
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The barbarians who populate the Ride have a history of unity against the external threat presented by the Black Network -- for example, the barbarians of the Ride who destroyed a large Zhentarim caravan which was en route to Glister in 1352 DR.
Myself, I'm just trying to recall where the reference came from that notes Whitehorn as being a Zhent outpost. I don't immediately remember where it was mentioned.
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Apr 2008 : 04:52:35
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| I thought Whitehorn was a mining interest of Zhentil Keep? I can't remember where I read that either... |
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Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
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Posted - 21 Apr 2008 : 16:06:15
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Kalin Agrivar
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
If my memory serves me right, there was this old priest lich under Zhentil keep.
I think all the Baneliches were destroyed with Fzoul's ascention
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase
Actually, at least one "lived" on to cause a bit of a bother in Daggerdale and Sigil. (see Finder's Bane.)
Fzoul Chembryl destroyed one of these liches with an ancient Netherese artifact, while Xvim’s Tyrantfog destroyed the others.
Just to be clear, the Tyrantfog and Fzoul did not destroy ALL of the baneliches. I purposefully shaped the extent of the Fog so there were places where a banelich could have survived, though I'll confess to having cleared the table of many of them.
Remember--never close doors entirely if you don't have to (though I admit that I purposefully blew up the Scepter of the Sorcerer-Kings since it was too blasted powerful to exist in the Realms).
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