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Kalin Agrivar
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 :  15:53:19  Show Profile  Visit Kalin Agrivar's Homepage Send Kalin Agrivar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

This leads to one very interesting question:

Do drow who live too long near the Underdark radiation become sterile? If so, is there a special Lolth-given magic which prevents drow male being less ballsy (figuratively speaking of course!)?



I always thought that the deeper you go in the Underdark the stronger the faeriz (sp?) and the more chance of mutations (including sterility)

I think the faeriz can mutation just to explain why the drow have their innate spell-like abilities (and why they are supposed to lose them when away from the Underdark for too long)

I remember reading one of the theories for the dwarf sterility (pre-Thunder Blessing) was volcanic fumes and the radiation of the Underdark

And I think if the drow were to go sterile, it would be more the females sterility...they would be the ones more in control of the faeriz sites...the males would be mor a cause of mutation during reproduction

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Kalin Agrivar
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 :  15:54:59  Show Profile  Visit Kalin Agrivar's Homepage Send Kalin Agrivar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
oh, and I always thought the zin'carla zombie was just a glorified ju-ju zombie but that the creator could exert "domination" on the zombie to a certain range (inspired by the novels, not the RPG material)

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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 :  15:55:03  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Which would explain Drizzt ;)

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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 :  15:58:39  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

Which would explain Drizzt ;)


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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 :  16:00:25  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kalin agrivar

oh, and I always thought the zin'carla zombie was just a glorified ju-ju zombie but taht the creation could exert "domination" on the zombie to a certain range (inspired by the novels, not the RPG material)



Zin-Carla wished they were cool enough to be a Juju Zombie.

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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 :  16:27:21  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you Zin-Carla'd a Roper...woul you get a jojo-zombie?

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Kalin Agrivar
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 :  16:30:34  Show Profile  Visit Kalin Agrivar's Homepage Send Kalin Agrivar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

If you Zin-Carla'd a Roper...woul you get a jojo-zombie?



*groan*


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turox
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 :  17:15:00  Show Profile  Visit turox's Homepage Send turox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also from Daughter of the Drow by ECunningham there is talk about a radation spot where some mages put magical items to enhance them some way. I don't remember if it was harmful to Drow or not, I will have to take a look through the book again to see.

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warlockco
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 :  19:39:20  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by turox

Also from Daughter of the Drow by ECunningham there is talk about a radation spot where some mages put magical items to enhance them some way. I don't remember if it was harmful to Drow or not, I will have to take a look through the book again to see.



That is how Drow had cheated back in 1E and 2E to get "free" magic items. Just Faerezz (sp) heavy areas, but there was nothing ever about mutations, other than the 1 two-headed deep dragon.

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shadowni87
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 :  22:10:30  Show Profile  Visit shadowni87's Homepage Send shadowni87 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
if i remember right the radiation gave bonuses to weapons and armour...correct???

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warlockco
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 :  22:25:47  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shadowni87

if i remember right the radiation gave bonuses to weapons and armour...correct???



Yes, it made them from +1 to +5, and they disintegrated when exposed to Sunlight. Also it seemed to only work on Adamantine weapons/armor.

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shadowni87
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 :  22:41:51  Show Profile  Visit shadowni87's Homepage Send shadowni87 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
sooo, if adamanine was not radioactivly "bonused" than it would not desinigrate at sun light???

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warlockco
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 :  23:00:14  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shadowni87

sooo, if adamanine was not radioactivly "bonused" than it would not desinigrate at sun light???



In 1E and 2E rules, yes.

In 3E rules, they added Drowcraft as a magical property.

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shadowni87
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 :  23:04:47  Show Profile  Visit shadowni87's Homepage Send shadowni87 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
question...did they change just abot everything going into 3e???

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Kalin Agrivar
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Posted - 12 Oct 2006 :  01:09:41  Show Profile  Visit Kalin Agrivar's Homepage Send Kalin Agrivar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shadowni87

question...did they change just abot everything going into 3e???



now that could be a loaded question...

"if you mean change everything" as in change everything that was is 1st and 2nd edition AD&D into 3rd edition D&D...then no, it hasn't happened yet...they converted the most important things first and are slowly converting the rest

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Beirnadri Magranth
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Posted - 12 Oct 2006 :  02:29:34  Show Profile  Visit Beirnadri Magranth's Homepage Send Beirnadri Magranth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The entire core system of 3.0+E is altered therefore minute details like the statistical aspects of Faerzress radiation are changed, well within reason. In many instances (of which I think this is the case here) the playability and scope of 3.0+ editions allowed for material to be 'statted' where it had gone as house rule or undefined in previous editions.

For the adamantine items in sunlight shpeal see pg 70 of the Underdark acessory. It is considered 'drowcraft' armor special ability. Page 48-49 gives a detailed explanation of Faerzress.

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shadowni87
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Posted - 12 Oct 2006 :  05:06:07  Show Profile  Visit shadowni87's Homepage Send shadowni87 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
is there any thing that they are not converting into 3+e

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quote:
Originally posted by shadowni87

is there any thing that they are not converting into 3+e



Of course there are things not converted yet, that in time likely will be. In fact the 3.X Editions basically just transfered over some 2nd material and was not converted/changed (with the exception that the material is valid under both prior and current Edition).

There is no way a list can be provided for what is the same, what has changed and what so far has not been addressed at all.


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shadowni87
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Posted - 12 Oct 2006 :  06:13:08  Show Profile  Visit shadowni87's Homepage Send shadowni87 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
sorry i wasnt thinking... a little to exited i think i was

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Beirnadri Magranth
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Posted - 12 Oct 2006 :  06:31:40  Show Profile  Visit Beirnadri Magranth's Homepage Send Beirnadri Magranth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I dont understand your preference for 2e. to me it seems inferior to 3e. Also i take it you are 18/19 yo which means you are too young to have gotten used to 2ed that strongly. either way my opinion is irrelevant im just saying.

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shadowni87
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Posted - 12 Oct 2006 :  06:55:16  Show Profile  Visit shadowni87's Homepage Send shadowni87 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i grew up nothing but 2e. unfortunatly i personally dont like most of the changes...they are in a sence quite liberal. and you opinion is justly noted and is not totaly irrelevent. as fortune had it i picked up the game and i fell sooo in love with it. i picked up on FR with the drizzt books and moved my interest over to here. i hope that explains why it is that i believe in it so strongly

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Okay, let's try and keep to the topic of this scroll -- namely DROW.

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shadowni87
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Posted - 12 Oct 2006 :  07:02:33  Show Profile  Visit shadowni87's Homepage Send shadowni87 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
sorry...anyway...i justy picked up the book "realms of valor" and is the story that salvatore wrote canon, or was that just for kicks and giggles???

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quote:
Originally posted by shadowni87

sorry...anyway...i justy picked up the book "realms of valor" and is the story that salvatore wrote canon, or was that just for kicks and giggles???



As I said last night, 99% of the novels/anthologies are canon except for the ones I mentioned before.

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shadowni87
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Posted - 12 Oct 2006 :  07:23:39  Show Profile  Visit shadowni87's Homepage Send shadowni87 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
so why are the contents of "dark mirror" by salvatore not mentioned in any of his other books...or am i just being blind????

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Kalin Agrivar
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Posted - 12 Oct 2006 :  13:47:32  Show Profile  Visit Kalin Agrivar's Homepage Send Kalin Agrivar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shadowni87

so why are the contents of "dark mirror" by salvatore not mentioned in any of his other books...or am i just being blind????



yes, I remember there are hints of the reprecussions of that short story mentioned in the "Drizzt" series afterwords..

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shadowni87
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Posted - 13 Oct 2006 :  00:36:29  Show Profile  Visit shadowni87's Homepage Send shadowni87 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
what ""drizzt" series afterwords" are you talking about???

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Kalin Agrivar
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Posted - 13 Oct 2006 :  03:43:03  Show Profile  Visit Kalin Agrivar's Homepage Send Kalin Agrivar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shadowni87

what ""drizzt" series afterwords" are you talking about???



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honestly Shadowni87, I couldn't tell you...I'v read all RAS's Drizzt novels and I do have vague memories of Drizzt regretting what happened to that goblin outside of the actual short story but not in what book...I wish I could be more of a help

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shadowni87
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Posted - 13 Oct 2006 :  06:54:31  Show Profile  Visit shadowni87's Homepage Send shadowni87 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
not a problem

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shadowni87
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Posted - 13 Oct 2006 :  09:36:23  Show Profile  Visit shadowni87's Homepage Send shadowni87 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
sooo honestly, are the war of the spider queen books any good??? im kinda curious and i really cant afford to buy a book that is not as good

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