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shadowni87
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 Posted - 10 Oct 2006 : 22:38:28
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are there any drow cities not in the underdark???
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Uzzy
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Posted - 10 Oct 2006 : 22:42:22
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| The Nation of Dambrath, which is detailed in the Shining South. Plenty of Drow, Half Drow and Lolthites there. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Oct 2006 : 22:48:59
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| The Velarswood in the Dalelands has a community of Eilistrae worshiping drow in it, and I believe there is also a community of them in the High Forest as well. While technically underground, the Promenade, a temple community to Eilistrae, is in UnderMountain, which isn't quite the Underdark. |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 10 Oct 2006 : 23:03:21
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I seem to recall two, but am checking.
Hmm not finding anything quickly, however if I recall correctly there is one Drow Lolthian city, mostly ruled by half Drow.
Also I recall seeing a mention of another city that worshipers of Eilistraee was welcome.
In part it depends on what is called a city and what is considered a Surface Drow city, other races clearly will be in such cities. |
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shadowni87
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 10 Oct 2006 : 23:07:06
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| is zin carla an only drow spell??? |
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 07:13:04
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| It is granted by Lolth... a non-drow follower of Lolth should be able to get it... |
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shadowni87
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 07:18:40
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| i thought that lolth was only for drow... so in turn a human cleric of lolth should be able to cast zin carla theoreticly or truly??? |
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Dargoth
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 07:26:34
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Originally posted by shadowni87
is zin carla an only drow spell???
Zin Carla is an ability granted by the Arachne PrC it isnt an spell the PrC is open to CE Female Arcanea/Choldrith/Deep Dragon/Drow/half drow and Draegloths who are followers of Lolth
The PrC and Zin Carla ability are detailed on pages 180-184 of F&P |
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Dargoth
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 07:27:19
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Originally posted by shadowni87
i thought that lolth was only for drow... so in turn a human cleric of lolth should be able to cast zin carla theoreticly or truly???
No
see above |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 07:28:51
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
It is granted by Lolth... a non-drow follower of Lolth should be able to get it...
With 3E only an Arachne PrC has the power to do Zin-Carla, and the only races that can be an Arachne are Aranea, Choldrith, Deep Dragon, Drow, Half-Drow, or Draegloth (though Champions of Ruin invalidates this one) with an additional requirement of being Female.
The stats for Zin-Carla are very weak, especially compared to the power it was shown to have in the Dark Elf Trilogy, for the most part is it nothing more than a glorified zombie.
And in my campaign, I allow any priestess of Lolth to do Zin-Carla, just need to use a Miracle to do so.
Edit: Bah, Dargoth answered, while I searched for my F&P to find what races could be an Arachne. |
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Edited by - warlockco on 11 Oct 2006 07:29:57 |
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shadowni87
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 07:47:57
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thank you both for your information and if its not to much trouble, what is the difference between zombie and zin carla, besides that you have to be a cirtian race/female to do zin carla???
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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 08:17:46
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| Zombie=no mental resemblance to the former "owner" of the body, zin-carla ritual granted by Lolth to use the body of the deceased with the properties of the former "owner" sans the will... |
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shadowni87
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 08:28:19
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| sooooo one is just a mindless thing controlled by a necromancer or a evil cleric and the other is just "zombie" with the creatures previous stats and specailties controlled by a priestess of lolth??? |
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Mace Hammerhand
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shadowni87
Learned Scribe
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111 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 08:43:29
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| thank you mace once agian... |
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shadowni87
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 09:01:24
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| soo when the first "drow" came to the underdark, how did they servive the radiation??? |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 09:03:00
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quote:
Originally posted by shadowni87
sooooo one is just a mindless thing controlled by a necromancer or a evil cleric and the other is just "zombie" with the creatures previous stats and specailties controlled by a priestess of lolth???
Yep, hence why I consider Zin-Carla to be nothing more than an over glorified zombie. Other than having some resistance, which at the power-level a PC would encounter one at, wouldn't be a concern at all.
Just using material from Libris Mortis, you can have far more powerful undead at the same CR range than a Zin-Carla. Something as simple as adding Ghoul to a person. |
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warlockco
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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 09:04:57
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| The radiation isn't dangerous per se....plus it isn't that strong everywhere. Menzo and other cities are built within the sphere of influence of the faerzness (I hope I spelled that right) to amplify the magics and protect the cities from intrusion via teleport and detection through divination spells. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 09:06:28
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
The radiation isn't dangerous per se....plus it isn't that strong everywhere. Menzo and other cities are built within the sphere of influence of the faerzness (I hope I spelled that right) to amplify the magics and protect the cities from intrusion via teleport and detection through divination spells.
Yep, plus even with the information presented in Underdark, it seems none of the authors, especially for novels can decide on what exactly the radiation does. |
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shadowni87
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 09:09:06
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| so how did they gain a resistance to the radiation??? |
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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 09:17:02
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| It isn't gamma radiation or some such thing, it is magical, some remnant of whatever formed the Underdark in the first place. They are not resistant to it if I remember correctly... |
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Zimme
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 09:24:33
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As a after note..... the forest of Mir in eastern Calimshan has two drow comunities. they worship Vaeraun*
* I trust that this is spelled right |
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shadowni87
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 09:29:01
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| mace, can you prove that??? |
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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 09:41:25
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| Underdark supplement, it doesn't mention the radiation being lethal...proof enough? |
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shadowni87
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 09:44:27
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| proof enough yes but just because it is not there does not always mean it cannot be true |
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warlockco
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 10:35:36
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Originally posted by shadowni87
proof enough yes but just because it is not there does not always mean it cannot be true
What exactly is it that you are looking for?
Underdark Radiation is nothing more than Concentrations of Magical or Quasi-Magical Energy, depending on the source you use.
For 3E Canon source regarding Underdark Radiation, you'll need to read the Underdark supplement for details.
Anything beyond the information presented there would be homebrew to each DM's specific campaign world.
And for previous editions, there was no known harm, except possible mutations, but that was only in novel sources (such as a two-headed Deep Dragon), however nothing in the rules. |
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shadowni87
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 14:47:13
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| all that im saying is that the possisbilities are there...right??? |
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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 15:00:14
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| Goes hand in hand with canon, it can be canon in your world...in the official world it is not. |
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Beirnadri Magranth
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 15:00:28
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no. i've read books where non-drow are in the presence of Faezress. Faezress only affects magical auras. There is some evidence however, that extended exposure to Faezress can augment magical powers... such as magical items. However, such instances are very rare.
Drow are just elves who were tranformed long ago into these abominations by other elven archwizards (High Mages). If you are still convinced that drow have a preternatural 'resistance' to faezress, then this is a result of magic and not adaptation/evolution.
As for your question, there are drow living in the Cormanthor forest, in the old elven city of the Elven Court. |
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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 15:10:40
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This leads to one very interesting question:
Do drow who live too long near the Underdark radiation become sterile? If so, is there a special Lolth-given magic which prevents drow male being less ballsy (figuratively speaking of course!)? |
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