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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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 Posted - 17 Apr 2005 : 10:47:18
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Originally posted by khorne
I seriously doubt you could call Obould an idiot(at least not twice)
I meant the orcs in general. HEck I wouldn't mind if they turned into the noble, samurai-ish orcs of Warcraft.
If the FR orcs were as smart as the Warcraft orcs they would rule the world. |
If I were a ranger, I would pick NDA for my favorite enemy |
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Antareana
Seeker
Germany
59 Posts |
Posted - 18 Apr 2005 : 02:49:17
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Ok, heres my List... and they maybe not all novel characters, but... err they have somehow earned their place
Favos (in no specific Order):
Bane (my very much favourite evil deity)
the Simbul
Ivan & Pikel (they made me laugh soooo often)
Danica (yes, she's proud, but what a strong woman...)
Manshoon
Sememmon (Yep, no novel character, but I like his style)
Telamont Tanthul (though I see him more as an archwizard and less as a "Sharan", I especially liked his appearance in the Realms of Shadow anthology)
Melegaunt Tanthul (shouldn't have died *sob*)
Milil (ok, no novel deity, but I love him)
Jergal
Malik
Avis
Druzil (little nasty imp)
my dislikes:
Ghost (grrr... never hated a villain that much)
Adon (too... whiny)
Lolth (just a dislike)
Shar (though I like the Shadovar)
Cyric
I don't have any problems with Kelemvor since I haven't read the last Avatar book yet (but played the ToT) and his description in F&P seems interresting
I do not hate Mystra, but her "omnipresence" annoys me a bit
Oh and my non-novel non-Campaignset favourites at the moment are Aggarack, a dwarven cleric of Grumbar, Segfried Huber, a Greatsword-fighter and Vince "the pounch", a swashbuckler from my current campaign ;) |
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Accursed
Acolyte
Australia
10 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 11:24:01
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Characters I Like
Gwydion the Quick
Brigit (from the second Moonshae trilogy)
Selune
Liriel Baenre
Ivan and Pikel Bouldershoulder
Alias
Dragonbait
Jarlaxle
Catti-Brie
Harkle Harpel
Thibbledorf Pwent
Bruenor Battlehammer
Danica Bonaduce
Arilyn Moonblade
Daryth (from the first Moonshae trilogy)
Keren (Thanks kuje31)
Characters I Like and Loath
Storm Silverhand
Mask (So cool yet he loses....)
Manshoon (so much potential wasted)
Characters I loath
Artemis Entreri (Groan....)
Khelben "BlackStaff" Arunsen (what a loser!)
Cyric (Eeeeeewwwww!)
Lolth (what a loon!) |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 14:49:21
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Originally posted by Accursed
Manshoon (so much potential wasted)
I'm curious as to why you see the character of Manshoon in such a way?
Oh, and welcome to Candlekeep fellow Australia.  Allow me to offer you our warmest greetings. 
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 17:20:18
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Originally posted by Accursed
The bard that died in Darkwalker Over Moonshae, can someone help supply his name?
Keren. |
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Ethriel
Learned Scribe
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 22:48:53
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IMO, Manshoon's clone thing really cheapens his character and menace...
"Oh my god, they killed Manshoon!"
"Eh, happens every month or so." |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 23:59:36
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Originally posted by Ethriel
IMO, Manshoon's clone thing really cheapens his character and menace...
"Oh my god, they killed Manshoon!"
"Eh, happens every month or so."
I disagree. I think it makes him more interesting and more dangerous... A foe who has nothing to lose is more dangerous than one who is trying to stay alive. Also, his "cloning around" means he's going to be around for quite some time -- he's already been around for at least a century or two. |
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Ethriel
Learned Scribe
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - 22 Apr 2005 : 00:01:17
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 22 Apr 2005 : 03:28:46
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Originally posted by Ethriel
As Fzoul's takeover has shown, Manshoon has plenty to loose.
Okay, so he lost control of his organization, at least for the moment... This is Manshoon we're talking about. There's nothing to say that he's not right now hatching a scheme to retake control of the Black Network in 5 or 10 years...
But that wasn't what I meant in my earlier statement. Manshoon knows -- and sometimes has taken advantage of the fact! -- that if he dies, he'll be back, as good as new, within days. He has no fear of death or destruction, because he will be back. His use of the stasis clone spell has given him an effective immortality -- and that's a lot more than can be said for his many opponents, Fzoul included.
That's part of why I say Manshoon is dangerous. Even if he dies in pursuit of a short-term goal, he knows he'll be around to see the fruition of his long-term plans.
He's powerful, intelligent, and evil, and he's got all the time in the world to accomplish his goals. That, my friends, is a combination to fear. |
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Accursed
Acolyte
Australia
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Posted - 22 Apr 2005 : 16:16:52
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Originally posted by The Sage
Oh, and welcome to Candlekeep fellow Australia. Allow me to offer you our warmest greetings.
Thanks Sage I appreciate the friendly welcome!
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Accursed
Manshoon (so much potential wasted)
I'm curious as to why you see the character of Manshoon in such a way?
I always thought he had so much potential to be a cool villian, cool as in Vader cool. I don't mind the Stasis Clone bit too much, the idea at least is alright, it just is the way it has all been bundled together as comic relief. He really hasn't ever come across as the sinister schemer he was intended as, at least for me.
I have only ever had one appearance by him in one of my campaigns, even though he was behind everthing. In that encounter he had my players terrorfied and bewildered. Manshoon was the way I had always envisioned him, - using the PC's to get what he wanted, in this case Fzoul's death and the semi destruction of Bane's church. Bane ended up as barely a demipower and Manshoon on the way to Godhood himself. It's a long, long story and it was all Manshoon's idea. |
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Ethriel
Learned Scribe
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - 22 Apr 2005 : 22:29:57
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Fzoul is Bane's CHOSEN, he's got the chief god of evil backing his rear end up. Fzoul is no dunce himself, remember...Shandril's saga also showed Manshoon had lots to lose himself. (The scene of the Shadowsil's death was my absoltue favorite Manshoon character moment)
Manshoon, right now, is probably having a lack of stasis clones what with the TINY setbacks in recent years...and if he has more, I've no doubt Fzoul could find them (again) and this time he wouldn't make a mistake. One on one, I'd side with the Chosen of Bane |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 22 Apr 2005 : 23:27:48
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Originally posted by Ethriel
Fzoul is Bane's CHOSEN, he's got the chief god of evil backing his rear end up. Fzoul is no dunce himself, remember...Shandril's saga also showed Manshoon had lots to lose himself. (The scene of the Shadowsil's death was my absoltue favorite Manshoon character moment)
Manshoon, right now, is probably having a lack of stasis clones what with the TINY setbacks in recent years...and if he has more, I've no doubt Fzoul could find them (again) and this time he wouldn't make a mistake. One on one, I'd side with the Chosen of Bane
Okay, several points:
1. Bane is the god of tyranny. If Manshoon proved himself a better tyrant than Fzoul, I think Bane would drop Fzoul like a bad habit.
2. A lack of clones? How do we know that Manshoon hasn't been casting more? Just because his spell went awry once out of the many times he's needed it, that doesn't mean he's not going to try it again.
3. Fzoul finding Manshoon's clones again? He never found them the first time -- his plan was for the clones to come to him. Look how well that worked out...
4. How did this become a Manshoon vs. Fzoul thread? I never said anything to indicate that Manshoon could trump Fzoul, or vice versa... All I said was that Manshoon was dangerous.
In fact, I hold them both Fzoul and Manshoon in equal esteem -- Fzoul's recent actions show he, too, can be truly dangerous. And I believe that his actions while serving Xvim had a tremendous amount to do with Bane's rebirth. |
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Ethriel
Learned Scribe
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - 22 Apr 2005 : 23:32:23
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1. Manshoon had his days in the sun...he had a LOT of days. In fzoul's time, he's done more then Manshoon's succeeded in. Fzoul's so favored for a good reason...one of which being he doesn't get bumped off every week or so.
2. Fzoul nearly got all of Manshoon's clones at one point...he wouldn't make a mistake of missing the spares ever again.
3. Shandril saga? Fzoul did pretty darn good
4. I mentioned as Fzoul's takeover had shown, Manshoon clearly has lots to lose as opposed to nothing...and Fzoul's been dead before too, I'll remind you |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 23 Apr 2005 : 00:15:28
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Originally posted by Ethriel
1. Manshoon had his days in the sun...he had a LOT of days. In fzoul's time, he's done more then Manshoon's succeeded in. Fzoul's so favored for a good reason...one of which being he doesn't get bumped off every week or so.
And Manshoon built the Black Network... Fzoul has taken advantage of it and strengthened it.
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Originally posted by Ethriel
2. Fzoul nearly got all of Manshoon's clones at one point...he wouldn't make a mistake of missing the spares ever again.
Where is this info coming from? Fzoul fled from Manshoon's clones, after they kept popping up. Other than that one case, I don't know of a single instance of Fzoul killing a Manshoon clone. If you know of such a case, please cite references.
Oh, and that time that Fzoul did kill a couple of Manshoons off, he had to ambush Manshoon and have a pit fiend help him. Sorry, that doesn't impress me.
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Originally posted by Ethriel
3. Shandril saga? Fzoul did pretty darn good
He also didn't face Shandril directly, as I recall...
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Originally posted by Ethriel
4. I mentioned as Fzoul's takeover had shown, Manshoon clearly has lots to lose as opposed to nothing...and Fzoul's been dead before too, I'll remind you
When was Fzoul dead?
And what has Manshoon to lose? He's independent now, he's effectively immortal...
And I will state again: I am not attacking Fzoul. I'm not saying Manshoon is better, either. I don't understand why we're debating this... |
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Ethriel
Learned Scribe
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - 23 Apr 2005 : 00:58:52
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1. Fzoul's also brought the Zhentarim and Zhentil Keep into their best state since...ever.
2. Shandril saga. When shandril vaporized Manshoon, Fzoul had all his hidden clones killed, but Manshoon put aside a hidden HIDDEN Cache...and it's less he 'had' to than simple caution and forethought. Honestly, Manshoon doesn't have a good track record considering he's failed almost all his schemes and killed for his troubles many a time
3. YEs, Fzoul fought Shan directly. She blasted Spellfire down his throat, blew him apart rather well. Oprion Blackstone ressurected him.
And now: Manshoon still has his position to lose, his sanity, his independance, and his life |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 23 Apr 2005 : 01:33:29
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Originally posted by Ethriel
1. Fzoul's also brought the Zhentarim and Zhentil Keep into their best state since...ever.
But he was working with something someone else made! I'm sorry, but someone sharpening and polishing a sword isn't as impressive to me as the actual forging of the sword.
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Originally posted by Ethriel
2. Shandril saga. When shandril vaporized Manshoon, Fzoul had all his hidden clones killed, but Manshoon put aside a hidden HIDDEN Cache...and it's less he 'had' to than simple caution and forethought. Honestly, Manshoon doesn't have a good track record considering he's failed almost all his schemes and killed for his troubles many a time
Okay... I don't remember that part of the Shandril Saga, but I'll take your word for it.
But... If Fzoul tried to kill all the clones and failed, then that means Manshoon beat him.
And the reason Manshoon doesn't have a good track record is because he's not been allowed to shine. Most of the time that we've seen Manshoon, it was when that accursed Code of Ethics was in place -- the one that said bad guys couldn't win, and turned the Zhents into the Keystone Kops.
As for the number of times Manshoon has been killed... Have you not read my earlier post? There are times that Manshoon specifically let himself be killed! There's a difference between killing someone who's trying to stay alive and killing someone who is intending to get killed, if it advances his goals. He can afford to take risks, because he does not care if the risks kill him.
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Originally posted by Ethriel
3. YEs, Fzoul fought Shan directly. She blasted Spellfire down his throat, blew him apart rather well. Oprion Blackstone ressurected him.
Okay. One time. This proves what? There's a difference between resurrection and cloning.
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Originally posted by Ethriel
And now: Manshoon still has his position to lose, his sanity, his independance, and his life
His position as an independent operative? How could he lose that? Fzoul has learned the cost of moving against Manshoon, and knows to leave him alone. As we've seen, Fzoul can't kill Manshoon permanently (especially without the help of a pit fiend).
If he tried to kick Manshoon out of the Zhentarim, it would cause a huge power struggle -- that was why he tried to kill Manshoon in the first place. And I don't think Fzoul wants Manshoon to be away from the Black Network. Not only is he still useful, but he'd be a deadly enemy... It's the old saw about keeping your friends close and your enemies closer.
His sanity? How can Fzoul take this away?
His life? Fzoul has already tried and failed to kill Manshoon, as have many others. Manshoon is still around. I reiterate: his use of the stasis clone spell (which you've failed to show why he wouldn't use again) grants him an effective immortality, which Fzoul doesn't have.
I am growing weary of this. Why do you insist on trying to prove Fzoul is better? That's not the intent of this thread, and I never said that Manshoon was better.
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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe
USA
552 Posts |
Posted - 23 Apr 2005 : 01:45:07
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Being a huge Fzoul fan I feel obliged to chime in on this topic. I have to agree with Wooly, they are equally dangerous and competent. One on one, probably Manshoon, utilizing rescources probably Fzoul because he has the fanatic worshippers of a deity at his side.
But, Manshoon and Fzoul are BOTH among the most dangerous villains in Faerun.
And a little reminder about Fzoul's death in the Shandril's Saga. Fzoul would be dead for good if Manshoon did not order Oprion Blackstone to ressurect him. The rival Banites were content to let Fzoul rot. So, Fzoul is only around because Manshoon wanted him around. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 23 Apr 2005 : 02:01:09
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I have decided that I will no longer debate this with Ethriel. It is an X vs. Y debate, which I do not like because it is all opinion. All I've done is try to refute the claims of clear superiority -- I have not stated that one is better than the other, because I do not feel this is so.
Ethriel, if you feel obligated to continue this debate, I invite you to start your own thread, specifically dedicated to that cause. I, for one, will not participate, however. I'd already spent more time on this debate that I wish.
No more will I say on that topic. And speaking of topics, what about favorite and most hated novel characters?
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Ethriel
Learned Scribe
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - 23 Apr 2005 : 03:41:02
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Just to close with a few comments as being unable to leave a debate alone
1. What Manshoon made was smashed, crushed and almost broken. It's like the same sword being bent and rusted before someone else hammered it back into shape.
2. Manshoon LET himself be killed by El all those times? And Shandril? And in the Avatar trilogy? News to me...considering he most certainly did NOT let Shan kill him and teleported by her by sheer accident...
3. My point was, death is not the end for Fzoul, moreso now that he's Chosen. Manshoon's sanity could hang by a thin thread with the clone bit. With the other...two active ones around, it could be possible to break the man down.
4. Manshoon came back because of a hidden cache of clones noone knew about but him...it's about as much a failure for Fzoul and losing the Death Star plans were for Vader. Moreover, it was less a failure to kill Manshoon, then killing him once and then a screw up with the clones that caused them to all awaken at once. Manshoon's supposed invincibility is due to his clones and in Shandril's saga, El told Manshoon in no uncertain terms, he could very easily destroy every clone, then blow Manshoon back to Bane
I'm not saying Fzoul is better, I think they're evenly dangerous villains (If Fzoul's more dangerous, it's because of his Chosen status...I like the concept of Manshoon, but hate how he was written most of the time) |
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ejm2000
Acolyte
Poland
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Posted - 01 Feb 2006 : 14:58:00
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Aliisza
Pharaun
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pantha rei |
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Mystery_Man
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2006 : 21:11:39
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Don't really have a "hate" for any character
Most favorite:
Elminster
Danilo Thann
Cadderly
Least favorite:
Drizzt
Salvatore's dwarves (mostly because they are protrayed and bumbling comic relief) |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 01 Feb 2006 : 22:26:15
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| Actually, I could never say that Salvatore's dwarves universally are bumbling comic releif. In fact, that is what makes those that ARE comic releif so glaring. I really like Bruenor, and I loved his story telling in the Thousand Orcs . . . he really seemed like a dwarven king there. I loved Banak Brawnanvil in the books as well. Thats why Pikel is such a pain in the backside. I can deal with Thibbledorf being a bit off as a berserker, but then you start having nominally "straight" characters like Cordio Muffinhead, who is suppose to be a great, high ranking, well regarded cleric but . . . Muffinhead? Sigh . . . |
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Volo
Seeker
Canada
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Posted - 01 Feb 2006 : 23:59:45
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I'll admit it. I don't like the works of R.A. Salvatore. AT ALL. I love Ed Greenwood's stuff, though, which is why many of my favourites come from his works. Elminster, Helm (the warrior from the first Elminster book, not the god), Alusair Nacacia Oberskyr, Azoun IV Oberskyr, Volothamp Geddarm (although NOT in Once Around the Realms. I hate that book.).
The characters I /hate/ are Drizzt Do'Urden, Bruneor Battlehammer, and pretty much everyone else from those books, the Harpell clan execepted. |
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darkcrow
Learned Scribe
USA
269 Posts |
Posted - 02 Feb 2006 : 00:01:19
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This is hard to choose!!!
Favorite:
Drizzt
Jarlaxle
Pikel
Aliisza
Pharaun
Finder
Alias
Least Favorite:
Wulfgar
Jeggred
Kelemvor |
May Tymora smile upon ye |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
USA
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 02 Feb 2006 : 06:14:08
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hard to choose just one. I think if it came down to just one it would be Drizzt, regardless of the mixed feelings about this character in FR world, IMO he would be my favorite.
least favorite, HMMM, I would have to choose Tristan from the moonshae trilogy. He started out well, but in the end of things, I think he kind of fizzled out. Maybe becoming king of the Ffolk made him kind of fade to the background |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 02 Feb 2006 : 13:35:00
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(OOC: Thanks be to ejm2000 for opening up this scroll I and my friends had been looking for so long that we simply gave up.)
Ahem, so many months had passed since I last posted, again I also have to reconsider my favorite and hated characters since I read quite a number of books.
Favorite Ones:
1) Araevin-like I said, bold, daring with strong will to do what he believes in.
2) Seiveril Miritar-Not that he is a politician but a growing and would be leader.
3) Telamont Tanthul-always my role model.
4) Erevis Cale-his ability to maintain integrity and morales after his shade transformation is admirable.
5) Flar-fearless, bold and maybe a master fighter.
6) Khelben Blackstaff- I admit I have a good deal of respect for this archmage.
7) Dorn Graybrook- an interesting half-golem.
8) Ivan and Pikel Bouldershoulder- always the amusing pair.
9) Pavel and Will- amusing, very amusing
10) Danilo Thann- cheerful and good sleuth.
11) Feena Archwood- the pioneer of the New Moon Pact, as I said, raised my eyebrows.
12) Keph Thingolier-enjoyed reading how he was manipulated.
13) Adrian Morieth-a special mage with ability to command Weave and even the Shadow Weave, from what I read from the Shadow Stone.
14) Sarya Dlardrageth-astounding eyebrow raising villain.
15) The Sojourner-Vhostym
16) Hallistra
17) Niccos from the House of Serpents-a righteous vengeance seeking priest, first of his kind to be seen.
18) Caledan Caldorian
19) Alusair Obarskyr-an impressive iron-willed steward and never shirks from duty.
20) Bruenor Battlehammer-a fearless dwarf that in his zeal, fears nothing and immune to pain.
21) Taegan Nightwind.
21) Malkizid
22) Variance Amatick
23) Iakhovas-the most inspiring villain.
24) Gwydion of Torm-loyalty and adherence to duty to the end even unto death, I admire his devotion.
25) Azriim-the slaad who goes round in style and fashion.
Not so favored characters:
1) Mystra-I believe need some adjustments as well and some humility.
2) Kelemvor-need some adjustments
3) Sammaster-a bit of whiner, should be more proactive.
4) Xhalph Dladrageth-brawny but lack brains.
5) Lathander-still haven't learnt his lesson
6) Lucia Thione and her daughter-for obvious reasons
7) Szass Tam
8) Galeron Nihmedu-as I said, incompetent Shadow Adept.
9) Wulfgar
10) Lolth-what a loony!
11) Mask
12) Obould-really seemed like an avatar of Gruumsh.
13) Artemis Entreri
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We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
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At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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Beezy
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 03 Feb 2006 : 07:36:16
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T0p 5 Favorites in no particular order and I reserve the right to alter it later haha
Cale - Kemp did a great job with him and his internal debates
Alias - excellent series, interesting character and plot
Wyvernspur - Can't recall the correct spelling of the first name I apologize for my ignorance
Pwent - I really liked the concept of him and his crew
Szass Tam - Not sure why i am so fascinated by him but I would love to read more about him
I don't hate them but i get annoyed by them...
Elminster - Where to start? He talks too much. Too powerful (he is a powerful wizard, a chosen of mystra meaning he has god granted powers and friends with the same, has a horde of magic items, his girlfriend is The Simbul, etc). He is always sleeping with someone, that annoys me.
Shandril - I liked Spellfire, no i loved it but I felt the next two novels ruined what i liked about the first novel.
Wulfgar - I liked him at first when Drizzt and him trained together and went out skull bashing together but after his fake death he was ruined
Wulfgar's wife Delly - She was a waste of pages, the only cool thing she did was steal the sword and die.
Regis - Just was never a big fan of him from the beginning.
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Bluenose
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Feb 2006 : 18:05:11
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Likes:
Liriel Baenre. Much more than Drizzt, she’s my model of how a drow who ends up on the surface would be. She combines brilliance, arrogance and ignorance and pulls it off brilliantly.
Danilo Thann. Just fun.
Alias. Mostly because she was the main character in my first FR novel.
Ryld Argith. He’s overshadowed by the other characters a lot of the time, but I like his combination of determination and loyalty, and the fact that he doesn’t have much to say but still makes it relevant.
Bruenor Battlehammer. I like him when he’s behaving as I think a Dwarven king should, so when life knocks him down he gets back up and thumps it. When he’s sulking about the people he’s lost I want to slap him.
Arvin and Karell. My favourite pair of characters, I'm not sure that individually they'd be as much fun.
Mirt. A fat old fool? 2 out of 3 will get you dead. You can believe that he was once Mirt the Merciless.
Giogioni and Cat Wyvernspur. Giogi because he knows he’s inept yet still tries to get things done; Cat just because.
Dislikes:
Alusair Obarskyr. Please someone cast a “Responsible Adult” spell on her.
Artemis Entreri. Goes from being the anti-Drizzt to, well nothing very interesting. A hanger on to a more interesting character.
And almost all the idiot villains from the early novels deserve nothing but contempt, though I suppose TSRs Code of Ethics should be blamed for that.
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These, in the day when heaven was falling,
The hour when earth's foundations fled,
Followed their mercenary calling
And took their wages and are dead.
Their shoulders held the sky suspended;
They stood, and earth's foundations stay;
What God abandoned, these defended,
And saved the sum of things for pay. |
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Sarephim
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 04 Mar 2006 : 02:10:32
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I like...
Arvin from Lisa Smedman's House of Serpents.
Kerell from same above series.
Tristan from the Moonshae Trilogy.
Danilo
Lirel Benrae
Gromph Benrae
I dislike...
Drizzt (a boring and overdone character)
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Favorite and most hated novel characters
