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Tigger
Acolyte
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 Posted - 02 Nov 2007 : 03:53:09
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Has this been abandoned?
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Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 02 Nov 2007 : 05:01:41
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In the Serpent Kingdoms book it says 3 of the Creator Races had a hand in creating the Nether Scrolls. The Sarrukh obviously are one of the three, who are the other two?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 02 Nov 2007 : 06:05:34
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Serpent Kingdoms states that the magical organisation known as the Ba'etith created them [pg. 97] in c. -30000 DR: note that this is dating based on the timeline given on pg .186 and the contents of pg .97. What is interesting about this is that the Ba'etith was originally a sarrukh organisation. However, with the fall of the sarrukh empire of Isstosseffifil, the Ba'etith was in turn controlled by the other "Creator Races" -- the batrachi and aearee -- over the next several millenia. Again, see Serpent Kingdoms, pg .97 for this. This source states that the Nether Scrolls were created over millenia and that they looked at the primitive magic employed by all races of that time -- this could mean that the Nether Scrolls were created not only by the sarrukh, but also by the batrachi and the aearee through the vehicle of the Ba'etith. So, to say that they were created by the sarrukh alone is probably not quite right.
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Beirnadri Magranth
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 02 Nov 2007 : 16:49:54
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| I collected a large amount of info that was shared between a couple sages here. However, I got a new computer and the portable harddrive I was using to transfer my old to my new hardrive erased all the content off my old drive. I have a couple old copies as document forms in my email but aside from that the collection of quotes adn passages are lost. I don't have the energy to replace what was lost. |
"You came here to be a martyr in a great big bang of glory... instead you will die with a whimper."
::moussaoui tries to interrupt::
"You will never get a chance to speak again and that's an appropriate ending."
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Tigger
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 02 Nov 2007 : 19:49:09
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Ok, since the figurative dog ate the homework twice on this thread, I though I would point out that a better alternative to losing your data, is setting up a google or yahoo or <fill in the blank> favorite free email site on the web account and email your changes to that account every night or every week if you are really lazy about it. In this age of lots of free storage and 4 Gig thumb drives its silly to lose lots of hard work to a harddrive crash.
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Tigger
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 02 Nov 2007 : 20:49:34
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Originally posted by The Sage
Serpent Kingdoms states that the magical organisation known as the Ba'etith created them [pg. 97] in c. -30000 DR: note that this is dating based on the timeline given on pg .186 and the contents of pg .97. What is interesting about this is that the Ba'etith was originally a sarrukh organisation. However, with the fall of the sarrukh empire of Isstosseffifil, the Ba'etith was in turn controlled by the other "Creator Races" -- the batrachi and aearee -- over the next several millenia. Again, see Serpent Kingdoms, pg .97 for this. This source states that the Nether Scrolls were created over millenia and that they looked at the primitive magic employed by all races of that time -- this could mean that the Nether Scrolls were created not only by the sarrukh, but also by the batrachi and the aearee through the vehicle of the Ba'etith. So, to say that they were created by the sarrukh alone is probably not quite right.
I dont have SK in front of me at the moment, but when I was reading it last night and posed the question, the big gold box at bottom of the page in the Sarrukh section said that 3 creator races created the Nether Scrolls as part of the Ba'etith. Does the page you are mentioning actually say that the batrachi and aearee are the other two races who make up the trio or just say that those two races collected magical knowledge?
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Beirnadri Magranth
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 03 Nov 2007 : 05:10:30
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| my harddrive didnt crash. the way i formatted it erased it all... thats what you get when you try and use Lacie on mac to pc. regardless, I really dont have time anymore to work on this And I feel frustrated becuase I essentially know everything about them and there is nothing more being published that elaborates. |
"You came here to be a martyr in a great big bang of glory... instead you will die with a whimper."
::moussaoui tries to interrupt::
"You will never get a chance to speak again and that's an appropriate ending."
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Tigger
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 03 Nov 2007 : 13:39:04
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Originally posted by Beirnadri Magranth
my harddrive didnt crash. the way i formatted it erased it all... thats what you get when you try and use Lacie on mac to pc. regardless, I really dont have time anymore to work on this And I feel frustrated becuase I essentially know everything about them and there is nothing more being published that elaborates.
HD crash, accidental deletion, etc. I was just pointing out that in the future you could send your daily mods to an email address and never lose all your hard work. We do that on lots of the projects I work on.
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Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 03 Nov 2007 : 14:21:44
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
This source states that the Nether Scrolls were created over millenia and that they looked at the primitive magic employed by all races of that time -- this could mean that the Nether Scrolls were created not only by the sarrukh, but also by the batrachi and the aearee through the vehicle of the Ba'etith. So, to say that they were created by the sarrukh alone is probably not quite right.
Thanks for the point to pg 97, piecing that together with the comments on page 55, we have:
Sarrukh start the Scrolls and form the Ba'etith
Batrachi continue work on them (as part of the Ba'etith)
Aearee finish work on them (as part of the Ba'etith)
Fey (Leshay?) steal that at some point
Elves have them presumably from the Fey
May have been a key component of the whole Crown War incidents
Terraseer (sarrukh) finds (or already knows the location) of them in the ruins of Aryvandaar and we get the beginning of the Nethereil Age. Eventually the elves steal a full set and its still located in a windsong tower in Myth Drannor where they are till this day (though there seems to be an arguement over whether windsong is actually in the city now or floating nearby). The other set of scrolls are stolen at small groups and so eventually the netherese have none of them at there fall. So a few of questions that I always wonder about are:
1) How on earth did 3 of the scrolls get back to the Grandfather Tree at the Hall of Mists? (I can figure out two, but not 3).
2) Are there really only two sets?
3) If there are really only two sets, who made the new shiny one, not to be confused with the older one as they were originally described?
4) The Branded King seems to have a pretty big fascination with the scrolls, is it just because of what they contain, or something else?
5) Did the Terraseer give the scrolls to the Netherese on his own or is that part of a plan by a group of still surviving members of the Ba'etith?
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