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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 :  01:51:44  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message
I'll be making my notes on here soon, perhaps later tonight. Going to have some dinner here shortly and write up from Secrets, among other things.

But, I will go ahead and state that Kuje's question was not answered yesterday before the end of the event. He, me, or anyone else know way knew for sure that if it was acknowledged or not, simply because there was laughter between the panel after it was said, and no answer afterwards.

Untill later.

"Eating people is wrong...unless it's on the first date." - Ed Greenwood, GenCon Indy 2006
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George Krashos
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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

Okay,

So I'm mostly done with gencon for the weekend except for Spin the Yarn tomorrow. However, it's time for some Secrets. This is long, so bare with me here and I'll probably not check this thread till morrow. The panel was Ed, Eric Boyd, and a WOTC employee to oversee.

5) I'm just going to say gratz to Brian for his timeline and let him, if he reads this, answer that! Rock man! So gratz!




This intrigues me. What's going on with Brian's splendid timeline?

-- George Krashos

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Kentinal
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Maybe he is going to get paid for it?

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Sanishiver
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 :  02:37:23  Show Profile  Visit Sanishiver's Homepage Send Sanishiver a Private Message
I'm quite happy to see more adventures for the Realms. That they're to be lore filled to some degree is like icing on the cake for me.

I think if we got 'just lore' and no crunch to make it playable...well that would be a boring read for a sourcebook and a throwback to the 'lore filled but not very usable' game books of yore.

For me and my players it's better to experience the Realms than to just read about them.

That said I'll not begrudge my fellow scribes who'd like nothing better than to sit in a cozy chair by the fire and have a good read. Someday, someday...

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GothicDan
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 :  02:42:43  Show Profile  Visit GothicDan's Homepage Send GothicDan a Private Message
quote:
think if we got 'just lore' and no crunch to make it playable...well that would be a boring read for a sourcebook and a throwback to the 'lore filled but not very usable' game books of yore.


Why precisely is a book all about the world unusable in a game set in said world? *Blinks* I've always found such books infinitely more usable when planning out character history, background, goals, family, past adventures, familial/clan grudges and alliances, trade minglings, knowledge of local flora and fauna, etc.

I'm not trying to be contrary, I'm genuinely confused. Do you not find such books useful?

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VonRaventheDaring
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Ironically i enjoy those books that combine enough lore for me to enjoy them as kinda novelish, and enough crunch to enjoy making future characters. It is hard to find that balance though. Of course i perfer more lore to crunch due to the fact that i can always make my own crunch!

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Kentinal
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RSE appear to be loosely defined at best, whi cares if Lolth becamame a greater deity (it does not effect game play, but was listed as an RSE).

Great events tend to provide a there to write about, the Orc Hoard in an organised army providing a call for heroes (The PCs to aid the fight against). A source book certainly can provide adventure hooks, and many of them provided fluff as it is. Do we realy care Volo was turned into a toard for a few years?

There basic question I would ask would be how much a change of balance fluff (which often is also lore) will superceed "facts" of the Realms?

The change might not be as dire as feared. Until seeing products of course we can not judge the stated policy change of sails.

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"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 :  03:24:09  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message
Well, Kuje basically covered everything but I'd give a quick run down of a couple of minor things. this is all my opinion if I say anything offensive-sounding here, it's simply because it's my opinion.

1. Thousand Page Books where talked about that would really detail such places as Waterdeep, Silverymoon, etc.etc. Chris, the WOTC fellow, had asked about "Would you buy a thosand page book talking about Waterdeep?" after a GenCon member had asked about something of that form. The panel discussed it with us and it eventually led to the question, the entire room raised their hands up. He then asked, "Would you buy one of Silverymoon?", everyone again basically raised their hands up. Now, this is when I personally noticed he had rolled his eyes at us like to the effect of 'Your full of it.' or something.


2. It was said that the new Drittz novels would give a hint to what is to come for the Realms. This could be a good thing or a bad thing for us I think, but I really can't make a stone decesion on that.

3. No Sourcebooks that talk about, discuss, and explain things like the Crusade featured in Last Mythall series for example wont likely ever come about..They where basically said that they wouldn't sell.

4. RPG/Novel teams have been merged to better them selves we where told.

5. Things that you mail into Wizards for Forgotten Realms (Ie: Stories, novels, etc.) are trashed.

Alright. So, now I have to state some other things. Eric, Kuje was plain and simply ignored when he had his hand up. I was sitting right beside him and I know the three of you had seen us, simply because I seen all three of you look at our direction several times during the time he had his hand up. Several other people where addressed first before him, even though these people had there hands up for a shorter amount of time.

I know that you or Ed have no control on who Chris chose, and I'm not trying to make them seem like any sort of "Bad Eric! Bad Ed!" sort of thing, I like you as an author (and Him) very well and you where very nice fellow after our failed meeting, so please dont take any of this the wrong way. But Kuje simpley did not have his questioned answered. There was a joke made, which I forget exactly what it was, and the statement from Chris "We have time for one more question from there in the back". He was ignored, and only got his question asked because I had raised my hand knowing fair well that he would go towards me. Surprise, surprise, he did. Let alone it was the "no no, the blonde boy" there, which means to me he knew Kuje had his hand raised. It felt to me that Chris had no real interest, and had less interest in talking to Kuje or hearing questions from him.

Besides this, there wasn't much exciting things in Secrets of the Realms, nto that I would call the above exciting. I was very disapointed after he had called on me and not Kuje. With that, you guys know what we had experinced and all the useful notes we took. Other questions where just questions that have been asked here on Keep before and have been answered properly here as well.

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GothicDan
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 :  03:33:12  Show Profile  Visit GothicDan's Homepage Send GothicDan a Private Message
Saddening, but believable.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 :  03:35:20  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Neriandal Freit

3. No Sourcebooks that talk about, discuss, and explain things like the Crusade featured in Last Mythall series for example wont likely ever come about..They where basically said that they wouldn't sell.




Well, I think that's wonderful. I don't think the "crusade" deserves it's own sourcebook.

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GothicDan
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 :  03:45:02  Show Profile  Visit GothicDan's Homepage Send GothicDan a Private Message
I will be a good boy and keep my mouth shut; but not so good as to not post anything at all. I embrace my immaturity. ;)

*clings to Rino in sympathy.*

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Jorkens
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I have to join the not interested in adventures party here.

quote:


Originally posted by Sanishiver
I think if we got 'just lore' and no crunch to make it playable...well that would be a boring read for a sourcebook and a throwback to the 'lore filled but not very usable' game books of yore.


Those were the kind of books that were useful for me. Adventures and an overflow of rules material was not useful to me at any point of my gaming, and this is what to me personally, makes for a boring and uninspiring read.
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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

Okay,

So I'm mostly done with gencon for the weekend except for Spin the Yarn tomorrow. However, it's time for some Secrets. This is long, so bare with me here and I'll probably not check this thread till morrow. The panel was Ed, Eric Boyd, and a WOTC employee to oversee.

5) I'm just going to say gratz to Brian for his timeline and let him, if he reads this, answer that! Rock man! So gratz!




This intrigues me. What's going on with Brian's splendid timeline?

-- George Krashos




George,

Kentinal wins with his guess. :) So, aye, I'll give it away and I hope Brian doesn't mind. WOTC has bought the timeline basically, they are going to add parts to it and other material to it, and then print it as a sourcebook.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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BobROE
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 :  04:43:37  Show Profile  Visit BobROE's Homepage Send BobROE a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Neriandal Freit


1. Thousand Page Books where talked about that would really detail such places as Waterdeep, Silverymoon, etc.etc. Chris, the WOTC fellow, had asked about "Would you buy a thosand page book talking about Waterdeep?" after a GenCon member had asked about something of that form. The panel discussed it with us and it eventually led to the question, the entire room raised their hands up. He then asked, "Would you buy one of Silverymoon?", everyone again basically raised their hands up. Now, this is when I personally noticed he had rolled his eyes at us like to the effect of 'Your full of it.' or something.



Well I don't think really it's about whether people in that room would buy it (all big enough fans to go to a panel about FR), rather whether people outside the room would buy it.

And about adventures
I like adventures, especially lore filled ones (well at least if they're good well written adventures, insert nasty comment about MotM here), but I'd not want an adventure in place of a source book.
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

Okay,

So I'm mostly done with gencon for the weekend except for Spin the Yarn tomorrow. However, it's time for some Secrets. This is long, so bare with me here and I'll probably not check this thread till morrow. The panel was Ed, Eric Boyd, and a WOTC employee to oversee.

5) I'm just going to say gratz to Brian for his timeline and let him, if he reads this, answer that! Rock man! So gratz!




This intrigues me. What's going on with Brian's splendid timeline?

-- George Krashos




George,

Kentinal wins with his guess. :) So, aye, I'll give it away and I hope Brian doesn't mind. WOTC has bought the timeline basically, they are going to add parts to it and other material to it, and then print it as a sourcebook.

That's awesome... Brian must be ecstatic.

And it's certainly well deserved. I just hope that "add parts to it" consists of more Realmslore, and not feats, skills or PrCs that WotC think could work with the timeline material.

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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

Okay,

So I'm mostly done with gencon for the weekend except for Spin the Yarn tomorrow. However, it's time for some Secrets. This is long, so bare with me here and I'll probably not check this thread till morrow. The panel was Ed, Eric Boyd, and a WOTC employee to oversee.

5) I'm just going to say gratz to Brian for his timeline and let him, if he reads this, answer that! Rock man! So gratz!




This intrigues me. What's going on with Brian's splendid timeline?

-- George Krashos




George,

Kentinal wins with his guess. :) So, aye, I'll give it away and I hope Brian doesn't mind. WOTC has bought the timeline basically, they are going to add parts to it and other material to it, and then print it as a sourcebook.

That's awesome... Brian must be ecstatic.

And it's certainly well deserved. I just hope that "add parts to it" consists of more Realmslore, and not feats, skills or PrCs that WotC think could work with the timeline material.




It didn't sound like more feats, skills, prcs, etc. They said he was missing some dates and they were going to fix that and add some other material to it. I didn't write it all down but, as I said, doesn't snd like more mechanics. :)

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Mazrim_Taim
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That's good. I'll definitely buy it as it's one of the online resources for FR I reference most. Just getting it in paper form without changes would be fine with me. But of course if the designers decide to add more lore to it, then that's awesome as well.

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

Okay,

So I'm mostly done with gencon for the weekend except for Spin the Yarn tomorrow. However, it's time for some Secrets. This is long, so bare with me here and I'll probably not check this thread till morrow. The panel was Ed, Eric Boyd, and a WOTC employee to oversee.

5) I'm just going to say gratz to Brian for his timeline and let him, if he reads this, answer that! Rock man! So gratz!




This intrigues me. What's going on with Brian's splendid timeline?

-- George Krashos




George,

Kentinal wins with his guess. :) So, aye, I'll give it away and I hope Brian doesn't mind. WOTC has bought the timeline basically, they are going to add parts to it and other material to it, and then print it as a sourcebook.

That's awesome... Brian must be ecstatic.

And it's certainly well deserved. I just hope that "add parts to it" consists of more Realmslore, and not feats, skills or PrCs that WotC think could work with the timeline material.




It didn't sound like more feats, skills, prcs, etc. They said he was missing some dates and they were going to fix that and add some other material to it. I didn't write it all down but, as I said, doesn't snd like more mechanics. :)



That is really cool! Brian deserves it, with all the hard work he's put into the timeline.

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Skeptic
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quote:
Originally posted by Mazrim_Taim

That's good. I'll definitely buy it as it's one of the online resources for FR I reference most. Just getting it in paper form without changes would be fine with me. But of course if the designers decide to add more lore to it, then that's awesome as well.



Let's just hope that Eric and George will be on the team of this product...
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quote:
Originally posted by Mazrim_Taim

That's good. I'll definitely buy it as it's one of the online resources for FR I reference most. Just getting it in paper form without changes would be fine with me. But of course if the designers decide to add more lore to it, then that's awesome as well.



Same here. I've been referring to it for years, and I think I was one of the first people to mention it on this site. Failing to share a wonderful resource like that is just wrong.

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Mazrim_Taim
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It's also nice for one of the hardworking scribes who toil to make Faerûn more readily available to all of us to be rewarded at last. But ah, maybe I am getting ahead of myself. It's just a rumor right?

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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quote:
Originally posted by GothicDan

Why precisely is a book all about the world...
Will reply by PM.

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Alright, Sani. :)

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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

George,

Kentinal wins with his guess. :) So, aye, I'll give it away and I hope Brian doesn't mind. WOTC has bought the timeline basically, they are going to add parts to it and other material to it, and then print it as a sourcebook.



Well met

That's absolutely fantastic news! Congratulations, Brian, i'm over the moon for thee

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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

Kentinal wins with his guess. :) So, aye, I'll give it away and I hope Brian doesn't mind. WOTC has bought the timeline basically, they are going to add parts to it and other material to it, and then print it as a sourcebook.



Congrats Brian

But does this mean there wont be any more updates to A Grand History of the Realms? (Not including the source book)

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Oh, I'm glad your all talking about that. If i remember correctly, and I could be wrong as I've not finished my coffee yet, I believe that they hinted also to things in side the timeline "Coffee Table book" also, like, again, things to come.

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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 :  12:54:32  Show Profile  Visit Wandering_mage's Homepage Send Wandering_mage a Private Message
Brian's timeline has been invaluable, priceless, and worth its weight in gold to me. My campaign planning has been so smooth that I am able to figure out a general idea of where popular NPC's are during any given time, what bad guys no longer exist at certain times, what cities where destroyed/in chaos. The list goes on and on. Brian has created a masterpiece. Check and Mate! (I just wanted to say that.)

Brian, you are my hero. In fact I will put down on my timeline (actually your timeline , I just printed it off) that Master Scribe Brian creates timeline for the Realms 1374 DR. 1375 DR Brian rocks the Casbah at GenCon with Realms timeline. Thanks for ther hard work Brian.

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Kuje
Great Reader

USA
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 :  12:57:33  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message
Just to be clear, Brian's timeline as a sourcebook is not a rumor. They are publishing it next year.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer

USA
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 :  17:54:46  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message
At this point I'm not exactly sure what I can and cannot say. Signing NDAs and such is still a new experience for me.

In any event, I'm glad many of you have enjoyed the chronology over the years. It has been a labor of love and I'm thrilled that WotC has seen value in it as well.

As to continuing updates of the timeline Dargoth... I'll have to get back with you on that one.

Also, If I'm lucky I'll be able to sneak a canon reference to the Giant Space Hamster of Ill Omen into the product

Brian R. James - Freelance Game Designer

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Snotlord
Senior Scribe

Norway
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 :  19:52:08  Show Profile  Visit Snotlord's Homepage Send Snotlord a Private Message
With a new history book and no less than three adventure tomes, 2007 sounds like a splendid year.
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