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Kuje
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 Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 02:57:08
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Okay,
So I'm mostly done with gencon for the weekend except for Spin the Yarn tomorrow. However, it's time for some Secrets. This is long, so bare with me here and I'll probably not check this thread till morrow. The panel was Ed, Eric Boyd, and a WOTC employee to oversee.
1) Mysteries of the Moonsea: WOTC is still undecided on if it was useful or not.
2) Dragon of Faerun has a 32ish page web enhancement for the city of Wyrmshadows.
3) Twilight Tomb: Yuirwood to a glass tomb in the star elves realm.
4) The three adventures that are coming out involve Shar and Cyric trying to eliminate Mystra. First one is set in Cormyr, the second and third they couldn't discuss much but from the covers it looks to be Boareskyr Bridge and the third involves a large red dragon of around CR 40 and a lot of destruction. The second one expands on the events from Rich's Last Mythal.
5) I'm just going to say gratz to Brian for his timeline and let him, if he reads this, answer that! Rock man! So gratz!
6) Since the cover for Lisa's novel has been posted alrdy, I'm just going to say.... it's a creepy cover and it looks interesting.
7) The second Knight book is called Swords of Fire and it probably won't advance to Shadowdale. Ed said more, but I didn't get it all down.
8) Sourcebooks are shifting towards lore filled adventures. Ed said, "Contact customer service if you want to show them what you want instead."
9) No neutral version of the Book of Vile Darkness or Exhalted Deeds in the works.
10) The Castle Ravenloft module is mostly like Tracy's old module and the lands around it. Not so much on the campaign setting.
11) A map folio of FR maps is possible, if the demand is there. An update to the FR Interactive Atlus is a maybe.
12) No updates by WOTC for the other continents. Look for those from Dragon/Dungeon.
13) Chris, the overseer, said WOTC does listen to reviews and people on the message boards.
14) Dragon/Dungeon articles are decided by Dragon/Dungeon and WOTC in weekly meetings. If you want to see other stuff, I quote Eric Boyd, "Write to Paizo and mention what you like."
15) RSE's and other Realms changes help the designers with advancing the timeline. Might be more events.
16) Someday Ed has a web article for the Unicorn Run. Will be awhile, or a long while, before it appears.
17) More events involving Elminster and his BIG mistake are being planned.
18) Ed, "Steven and I got together awhile ago and we talked about FR and FR and FR and FR. Take that how you will." Me, it means more material from Steven.
19) As many of us know, Ed doesn't have the final say on products/etc.
20) More Drizzt.
21) Wotc is dabbling in podcasts and we might see more of them.
22) Sometimes there might be some box sets again.
23) There is a open submission for novel writters next month. No new FR authors being accepted though.
24) There's been meeting to design the next ten to tenty years of lore. Wasn't sure if that was our years or in game. :)
25) As of 2006 the novel and game departments are now one entity and so there is no seperate departments any more.
26) They are going to try to get back to the forgotten part of the Realms and detail places that are undetailed or forgotten about.
27) WOTC has been wondering about doing a web page that updates NPC's and other major events.
28) No FR quarterly magazine.
29) Pdf's will not be overtaking print sourcebooks.
30) Rituals of the Realms. I didn't get an answer! Sorry Sage! I tried man!
Neri, Eytan, and others were there as well, so they might fill in what I didn't have time to write down or what I found uninteresting.
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Edited by - Kuje on 12 Aug 2006 03:03:06
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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 03:06:38
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| Yes, Rituals of the Realms qusetiosn...well, I'll have to post my opinion come Monday about that ;) |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 03:33:29
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Originally posted by Kuje
30) Rituals of the Realms. I didn't get an answer! Sorry Sage! I tried man!
Hehe... I knew it! 
I guess you and I will just have to keep waiting...
Though, I was pleasantly surprised by this news -
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22) Sometimes there might be some box sets again.
FR boxed sets in 3e... Neato. 
I've only seen one 3e published setting do this, and that's Midnight. I wonder whether that has somewhat influenced WotC's position on boxed sets.
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 03:51:35
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I must say.. That at least half of the above secrets are pretty upsetting. :(
Thank you muchly for bringing us some of the dark, Kuje! |
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kaeso
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 04:08:48
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Originally posted by Kuje
4) The three adventures that are coming out involve Shar and Cyric trying to eliminate Mystra. First one is set in Cormyr, the second and third they couldn't discuss much but from the covers it looks to be Boareskyr Bridge and the third involves a large red dragon of around CR 40 and a lot of destruction. The second one expands on the events from Rich's Last Mythal.
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Sanishiver
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 04:59:39
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Kuje,
Thanks for taking the time. I (we) appreciate it.
J. Grenemyer |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 05:10:41
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Originally posted by Kuje
17) More events involving Elminster and his BIG mistake are being planned.
What's this now?
Anyway, thank you for lore, Kuje.  |
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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 05:56:34
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18) Ed, "Steven and I got together awhile ago and we talked about FR and FR and FR and FR. Take that how you will." Me, it means more material from Steven.
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And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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Jorkens
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 06:02:24
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| Thanks for the info Kuje. Seems like the Realms will continue down the path they have followed lately except adventures may dominate. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 06:17:09
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Kuje
17) More events involving Elminster and his BIG mistake are being planned.
What's this now?
Anyway, thank you for lore, Kuje.
Not sure and we'll have to wait for whatever this is. :) |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 06:17:38
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Originally posted by Sanishiver
Kuje,
Thanks for taking the time. I (we) appreciate it.
J. Grenemyer
No problem. :) |
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Archwizard
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 06:43:41
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Thanks for bringing piping hot Realms news to those of us who couldn't attend GenCon, Kuje. It is greatly appreciated.
2) Dragon of Faerun has a 32ish page web enhancement for the city of Wyrmshadows.
[Sounds cool, 32 pages is hefty, like one of those minatures based adventures, but for free.]
3) Twilight Tomb: Yuirwood to a glass tomb in the star elves realm.
[If Star Elves are here to stay, might as well do something appropriate with them.]
8) Sourcebooks are shifting towards lore filled adventures. Ed said, "Contact customer service if you want to show them what you want instead."
[This is disappointing. Ed seems to disagree with it as well. This one might see some polarizing action.]
9) No neutral version of the Book of Vile Darkness or Exhalted Deeds in the works.
[Damn, not even on the Lawful/Chaotic alignments?]
11) A map folio of FR maps is possible, if the demand is there. An update to the FR Interactive Atlus is a maybe.
[Do they even have to ask?]
12) No updates by WOTC for the other continents. Look for those from Dragon/Dungeon.
[That seems like one policy they are REALLY sticking to, but it's the most irrelevant policy to adhere to in the long run.]
13) Chris, the overseer, said WOTC does listen to reviews and people on the message boards.
[I like Chris' title.]
14) Dragon/Dungeon articles are decided by Dragon/Dungeon and WOTC in weekly meetings. If you want to see other stuff, I quote Eric Boyd, "Write to Paizo and mention what you like."
[Well there is one recent Dragon article on the Realms I'm going to give strong positive mention for.]
16) Someday Ed has a web article for the Unicorn Run. Will be awhile, or a long while, before it appears.
[We can be patient.]
20) More Drizzt.
[WotC's Golden Rothe, could go either way, but Drizzt novels do seem to be one of the few places where dwarves get any attention.]
22) Sometimes there might be some box sets again.
[Wow, did not expect to hear this.]
26) They are going to try to get back to the forgotten part of the Realms and detail places that are undetailed or forgotten about.
[That's great, as long as it's not like #8 Sourcebooks -> Lore filled adventures. Also conflicts with #12, which are all part of the Realms but not only undetailed but also forgettable. :P]
27) WOTC has been wondering about doing a web page that updates NPC's and other major events.
[This would be a very helpful resource.]
28) No FR quarterly magazine.
[Would basically be served by a well implemented #27 above.]
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Alaundo
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Kiaransalyn
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 10:43:40
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Thank you for this news.
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Originally posted by Kuje
1) Mysteries of the Moonsea: WOTC is still undecided on if it was useful or not.
It was in my opinion. Does useful here mean sales? I'm not being cynical when I say that since sales are probably the best indicator of wether customers like a product.
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Originally posted by Kuje
8) Sourcebooks are shifting towards lore filled adventures. Ed said, "Contact customer service if you want to show them what you want instead."
Lore is good but Ed's comment sounds as though he's not entirely happy.
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Originally posted by Kuje
9) No neutral version of the Book of Vile Darkness or Exhalted Deeds in the works.
A shame in away as the other two books were good. Then again alignment can lead to all sorts of squabbles.
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Originally posted by Kuje
11) A map folio of FR maps is possible, if the demand is there. An update to the FR Interactive Atlus is a maybe.
Demand here!
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Originally posted by Kuje
20) More Drizzt.
Be still my beating heart.
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Originally posted by Kuje
23) There is a open submission for novel writters next month. No new FR authors being accepted though.
 Personally, I feel a bit blue about that (I guess many others feel that way too) but there's only so much a publisher can publish so fair enough I suppose.
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Originally posted by Kuje
27) WOTC has been wondering about doing a web page that updates NPC's and other major events.
That could be very useful. Or how about a WotC stamp of approval for sites such as Candlekeep? |
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Ergdusch
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 11:17:16
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Well! Well! Well! Lot's of news herre! Thank thee Kuje for taking your time to share those infos. Much appreciated.
Looks like the sages of Candlekeep will have quite a bit to discuss in the near and distant future. I like that look-out.... |
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Dargoth
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 12:09:10
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1) Mysteries of the Moonsea: WOTC is still undecided on if it was useful or not.
But apparrently thats not going to stop them from doing 3 similar books 
8) Sourcebooks are shifting towards lore filled adventures. Ed said, "Contact customer service if you want to show them what you want instead."
*Groan*
Ed may rest asured that the next time Wizards stick there FR survey up on their site Ill be letting them know of my displeasure at this decision
11) A map folio of FR maps is possible, if the demand is there. An update to the FR Interactive Atlus is a maybe.
Id buy either
15) RSE's and other Realms changes help the designers with advancing the timeline. Might be more events.
Oh for the love of God no! Can we please give the RSEs a rest?!?!?
25) As of 2006 the novel and game departments are now one entity and so there is no seperate departments any more.
IF this means no more Thousand Orcs vs Silver MArches and Mysteries of the Moonseas vs Last Mythal type stuff ups then it has my full support
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Gray Richardson
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 15:19:49
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| Awesome Kuje, thanks for sharing your Gencon info! |
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Faraer
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 18:27:14
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Thanks, Kuje.quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
The second Knight book is called Swords of Fire and it probably won't advance to Shadowdale.
Did he say if the series would be more than three books, then?quote:
Sourcebooks are shifting towards lore filled adventures. Ed said, "Contact customer service if you want to show them what you want instead."
Talk about a 180º turnaround. I love adventures, but commercially and artistically I can't see why Wizards would publish anything like just adventures.
The best way to contact customer service is to send a PHYSICAL LETTER to
Wizards of the Coast
Attn Customer Service
PO Box 707
Renton, WA 98057-0707quote:
A map folio of FR maps is possible, if the demand is there.
They could have gauged by now, as well as they ever can, what the demand is. This isn't a new idea.quote:
Dragon/Dungeon articles are decided by Dragon/Dungeon and WOTC in weekly meetings. If you want to see other stuff, I quote Eric Boyd, "Write to Paizo and mention what you like."
That is, find who you want to write to on the magazine's masthead, and address it to them at
Paizo Publishing
2700 Richards Road Ste 201
Bellevue, WA 98005-4200.quote:
RSE's and other Realms changes help the designers with advancing the timeline.
I'd like to hear their justification in longer form. Advancing the timeline is not a worthy end at all, let alone one worth damaging the setting for.quote:
They are going to try to get back to the forgotten part of the Realms and detail places that are undetailed or forgotten about.
Aside from Silver Marches, the 3E regional sourcebooks focused on out-of-the-way places from the start! I hope this doesn't mean the Dales and Cormyr have lost their chance for detailed coverage. |
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Wandering_mage
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 18:34:32
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| Wow!!!! Kuje, your post has made my day. By the Seldarine I love the Realms! |
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 21:41:45
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The three participants were Ed Greenwood (freelancer), Chris Perkins (WoTC employee), and myself (freelancer).
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Originally posted by Kuje
4) The three adventures that are coming out involve Shar and Cyric trying to eliminate Mystra. First one is set in Cormyr, the second and third they couldn't discuss much but from the covers it looks to be Boareskyr Bridge and the third involves a large red dragon of around CR 40 and a lot of destruction. The second one expands on the events from Rich's Last Mythal.
It's not Boareskyr Bridge.
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7) The second Knight book is called Swords of Fire and it probably won't advance to Shadowdale. Ed said more, but I didn't get it all down.
Swords of Dragonfire.
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8) Sourcebooks are shifting towards lore filled adventures. Ed said, "Contact customer service if you want to show them what you want instead."
I think some respondants are assuming this is a value judgement on Ed's part. While I won't speak for his opinion, I believe this was his standard value-neutral statement that he says every GenCon. If you like something, let Customer Service know. If you don't like something, let Customer Service know. If you like something *in moderation*, let Customer Service know. Don't wait for a survey. Send them a letter (email is OK, postal mail is better, shows you're more serious).
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15) RSE's and other Realms changes help the designers with advancing the timeline. Might be more events.
This isn't what I meant (and I don't think it's what I said). I meant to convey that when the timeline is advanced, it can inspire game design. I was not trying to convey a value judgement one way or the other as to whether this was a good idea or not (and there's lots of shades of gray in between).
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30) Rituals of the Realms. I didn't get an answer! Sorry Sage! I tried man!
I think Chris put it on his list of audience-suggested topics. Not sure what else you wanted.
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Faraer
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 21:49:31
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Was the impression that all sourcebooks will become lore-filled adventures, or was the panel being deliberately vague, or what?
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I meant to convey that when the timeline is advanced, it can inspire game design.
Very true; of course, if you're Eric, so can typos and continuity mistakes. |
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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 21:54:14
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
I think some respondants are assuming this is a value judgement on Ed's part. While I won't speak for his opinion, I believe this was his standard value-neutral statement that he says every GenCon. If you like something, let Customer Service know. If you don't like something, let Customer Service know. If you like something *in moderation*, let Customer Service know. Don't wait for a survey. Send them a letter (email is OK, postal mail is better, shows you're more serious).
--Eric
I think I'll write a letter...maybe it helps... hmm...maybe I should send a letter to Mary Kirchoff in the hope she remembers me...maybe that would help some more...
Does voicing your opinion help at all in the corporate environment Wizards is in now?
Is the gaming design based on sales numbers and marketing strategies now or does the design team actually take us (walking encyclopedias/gaming-madmen and women) seriously? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 22:05:15
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Originally posted by Faraer
Was the impression that all sourcebooks will become lore-filled adventures, or was the panel being deliberately vague, or what?
It seemed to me to be both, since there are things they couldn't discuss, like the next two adventures, but so far I didn't see any sourcebooks. There might be some but if they aren't in the catalog yet, WOTC said they can't discuss them.
I think that the Knights is still going to be a trilogy but no one really asked and Ed didn't really say, that I recall. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Edited by - Kuje on 12 Aug 2006 22:08:12 |
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Kuje
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 22:11:23
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
This isn't what I meant (and I don't think it's what I said). I meant to convey that when the timeline is advanced, it can inspire game design. I was not trying to convey a value judgement one way or the other as to whether this was a good idea or not (and there's lots of shades of gray in between).
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30) Rituals of the Realms. I didn't get an answer! Sorry Sage! I tried man!
I think Chris put it on his list of audience-suggested topics. Not sure what else you wanted.
--Eric
I wasn't quoting you in the first part, I was quoting most of the whole discussion between the three of you.
As for the rituals part, maybe a straight answer or a "we'll think about it." Getting ignored while he called on 6+ other people after I raised my hand and then getting a joking answer was not an answer. So, as I said a, "we'll think about it," would have surficed but I didn't even get that... And I did discuss it with the two others that were with me and they said, "You did not get an answer." But, this isn't the place to argue this. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 22:18:14
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Kuje
17) More events involving Elminster and his BIG mistake are being planned.
What's this now?
Anyway, thank you for lore, Kuje.
Not sure and we'll have to wait for whatever this is. :)
OK, thanks--it's good to know I'm not "missing something". |
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Wandering_mage
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Posted - 12 Aug 2006 : 22:21:46
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Just for my info, we all like lore filled adventures right? What is the opposite? I mean, lore rocks! I want to know more and more about everything. It allows me to better detail my games and characters. Plus its a hobby!
I do have to say I never was one for using pre-designed adventures. I make my own. So I am really confused if I want more adventures with lore or the opposite....whatever that is. I like sourcebooks, what can I say?  Just make sure they are worth the money I am putting down for them.  |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 : 00:10:31
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Originally posted by FaraerI'd like to hear their justification in longer form. Advancing the timeline is not a worthy end at all, let alone one worth damaging the setting for.
I totally agree. I would also appreciate a longer explanation for these continued RSEs. I can't say I'm very happy about WotCs continued support for them. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 : 01:02:06
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Originally posted by Wandering_mage
Just for my info, we all like lore filled adventures right? What is the opposite? I mean, lore rocks! I want to know more and more about everything. It allows me to better detail my games and characters. Plus its a hobby!
I do have to say I never was one for using pre-designed adventures. I make my own. So I am really confused if I want more adventures with lore or the opposite....whatever that is. I like sourcebooks, what can I say? Just make sure they are worth the money I am putting down for them.
I don't. I'd rather have normal sourcebooks like we've had in the past and in most of the current rules then adventures that contain lore. But that's me. :) |
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Kuje
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OK, thanks--it's good to know I'm not "missing something".
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GothicDan
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 : 01:07:51
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| The comment about RSEs was one of the most upsetting on the list, really. That and a move towards more "lore-filled" adventures (if MotMS is any indicator of what this i). :) |
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The Sage
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 : 01:45:23
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Just for my info, we all like lore filled adventures right? What is the opposite? I mean, lore rocks! I want to know more and more about everything. It allows me to better detail my games and characters. Plus its a hobby!
I do have to say I never was one for using pre-designed adventures. I make my own. So I am really confused if I want more adventures with lore or the opposite....whatever that is. I like sourcebooks, what can I say? Just make sure they are worth the money I am putting down for them.
I certainly don't.
I don't use pre-made adventures, and I'd prefer to see the space in a sourcebook that currently details stats and other rules-related info, used for Realmslore instead.
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