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khorne
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 :  21:38:08  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So do I. Fervently.

If I were a ranger, I would pick NDA for my favorite enemy
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GothicDan
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 :  21:40:35  Show Profile  Visit GothicDan's Homepage Send GothicDan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A supplement all about the Crown Wars would be really, really awesome. But, if I recall correctly, WotC isn't all that hyped about really delving in depth into events that do not directly affect the lives of adventurers today (no ancient things, no godly affairs, etc.).

But I hope someone at WotC (freelancing or salaried) manages to slip something in, eventually.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 :  22:30:52  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GothicDan

A supplement all about the Crown Wars would be really, really awesome. But, if I recall correctly, WotC isn't all that hyped about really delving in depth into events that do not directly affect the lives of adventurers today (no ancient things, no godly affairs, etc.).



Unless it's "ancient things somehow coming back to live in the present".

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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GothicDan
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 :  22:53:40  Show Profile  Visit GothicDan's Homepage Send GothicDan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ohhh yeah. :)

What I'd give for a Lost Empires of Faerun II.. and III... And so on.

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The Sage
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Posted - 07 Jul 2006 :  10:49:09  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GothicDan

A supplement all about the Crown Wars would be really, really awesome. But, if I recall correctly, WotC isn't all that hyped about really delving in depth into events that do not directly affect the lives of adventurers today (no ancient things, no godly affairs, etc.).

But I hope someone at WotC (freelancing or salaried) manages to slip something in, eventually.

Which is likely the case at some point. George and Eric have told us on numerous occasions that their work-ups for particular aspects of the Realms often go long periods of just sitting around on their harddrives until, with the proposal for a new sourcebook, the potential to drop one or two tidbits into the new source material becomes apparent. They may not always get everything they want in, but some lore is always better than none at all in my opinion.

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TBeholder
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quote:
Originally posted by khorne

When talking about this stuff about the Ilythirii using fire magic that was blasphemous to elven nature etc etc people seem to forget(or I might have missed something) that the Ilythirii started with that tactic after the Dark Disaster(sent by the sun elves) which wiped out all of Miyeritar. I`m sorry, but a big necromantic cloud that destroyed a whole nation seems a far worse crime to me than using fire magic.

Well, yes.
But "a worse crime" cannot be a factor. It was over the top in one case - the everlasting curse already supposed to be blanket even before it got out of control. And just as downplayed in another, because when the Elven Court agreed to shift all the blame to the ruling clan alone and let everyone else off the hook in an empire that gradually conquered half of the continent? Unless they were reproducing like rabbits, it comes across as a travesty of justice so grand and bald-faced, that even in our world it's outstripped only by XX Party Congress of CPSU, and only because that time not only blood-drenched organizers of multiple mass murders were allowed to make big eyes and chirp about how "deceived" they were, but also some of them led the ball themselves.
So it cannot be about justice.
Yet, Ilythiir was to be stopped ASAP and elves were advised to band against them right after the news about them misbehaving spread, while Aryvandaar was allowed to conquer all it could catch before the Elven Court was called...
There must be a very important difference.
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Originally posted by GothicDan

It was performed by the Vyshaanti High Magi - you know, the ones who were corrupted by Malkazid.
Who were all sentenced to death.

Here we go: one obvious important factor is that Ilythiir began to turn away from Seldarine en masse, and in Aryvandaar only Vyshaan clan had dealings with the enemies of Seldarine.
If this indeed was the criterion, the approach was entirely consistent: condemnation of both groups was done in the same "err on the safe side - burn all the crops" broad sweep: the whole Ilythiir and the whole Vyshaan clan.
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The vast majority of Sun Elves never had any clue this happened, even the Aryvandaarians. In previous editions, it wasn't even pinned down as to who did it. It was all a huge, terrible mystery.

Indeed. "And the serious people will just ask: 'qui bono?'. And that's it."©

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 26 Aug 2015 :  05:22:45  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's been 9 years... I'm not sure the people you're responding to are still around to see your response.

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TBeholder
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Posted - 26 Aug 2015 :  06:53:20  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

It's been 9 years... I'm not sure the people you're responding to are still around to see your response.

On this subject? Come on. All it changes is that maybe there won't appear one more thread - if whoever would start it looks here within a month or so.

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Cbad285
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Posted - 26 Aug 2015 :  09:20:46  Show Profile Send Cbad285 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I swear I read somewhere that the dark elves were dusky or brown skinned with pale yellow hair. and they lived (partially) in the jungles of chult.

Where did I read this from I wonder...

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Edited by - Cbad285 on 26 Aug 2015 09:22:48
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