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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 19 Mar 2003 : 15:48:45
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I think it would be interesting for tattoo enchantments have a certain number of body parts that can have a tattoo. It would allow more room for items with certain abilities.
If I have overlooked something my apologies
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AraznBlair
Learned Scribe
USA
114 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2003 : 16:19:12
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| I remember reading in some accessory book of a tattoo that were actually lock picks. When not in use they looked like a tribal tattoo. I'm pretty sure I read about that in some 2E book. Maybe the Hanbook for Theives. I could be wrong and if I am it would be a cool magical tattoo to have if you were a thief. |
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2003 : 19:11:50
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| That would be cool but i am talking about Tattoos that would do things that jewlery and other pieces of magic equipment would do but in tattoo form. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2003 : 19:23:07
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| Hmm . . . a tatoo of speed on one's arm . . . or tatoo of protection. That sort of thing? |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2003 : 19:43:28
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Well, i think that if this limititations exist it's for the balance of the game, so if you use tatoos AND magical object i think it could be 'too much'
IMO, it could be great to use tattoos instead of objects (at a higher price because they can't be removed) |
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Echon
Senior Scribe
Denmark
422 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2003 : 19:52:17
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In Planescape: Torment it is possible to buy magical tattoos with a lot of different abiblities. I do not know if Black Isle Studios made this up or if it in some Planescape accessory or another.
In Baldur's Gate II a lot of the mages have got something called a tattoo of power which act like a spell trigger, much like contigency and chain contingency. I do not know if BioWare made this up, either.
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Elrond Half Elven
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
322 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2003 : 20:00:55
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Well Zemd would you not then agree that one of the downsides of the tattoo would be that they where permanent. Thus you should still be allowed the tattoos and the magical items. However I would suggest limiting the number of tattoos to one or two. Also the tattoo would be permanently active. This may seem a good point but your character would 'give out' a permanent magical Aura. This could be very bad. I would also suggest that there would be no way to 'hide' this aura.
I think there is one last question what would happen when a dispel magic is cast? Does the magic fade away permanently or does it stop for a small amount time?
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Once upon a midnight dreary, while i pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore-
While i nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 19 Mar 2003 : 20:07:11
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Rattling brain, but can't think of the exact scroll... The only thing that jumps to mind is the picture of a rogue dashing through a dangerous dungeon with the note: Tattoo Magic at work...
Tattoo magic is described... I think in Magic of Faerun. The (3e) rules cover most of the questions above IIRC...
Makes mental note to self to check the library once more for the scroll on Tattoo Magic in particular... |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2003 : 22:17:32
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| You're right Mumadar, i remember that i saw it in one of the books... But i looked (quickly it's true) in the MoF and didn't find the Tattoo's section |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2003 : 23:38:32
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| It think that the magic would be treated like it was a powerfully enchanted item. I don't know the exact rules for dispel magic on, say, a moonblade, but I would think it would be like just a cancellation, which would stop when the object was far enough away or the spell stopped working. |
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Salius Kai
Learned Scribe
USA
217 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 00:01:13
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It would be an interesting idea, but with a limit.
Mabey, for instance, it could be limited by the Wisdom modifyer. Such as the magic would be permenant in your body, and your body could only hold so much strong magic (if that made any sense). |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 00:08:27
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| It does, actually. Perhaps a constitution limit, showing how many total spell-levels you could have. |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 06:29:18
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I think wisdom is more suitable. Like in hi-tech worlds, when they made mi-man mi-machines. They can become mad.
Still rules exist, but i can't find them |
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Echon
Senior Scribe
Denmark
422 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 12:21:01
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When making spells that affect an individual permanent there is no limit to the amount of magic one person can contain so I do not see why it should apply to tattoos.
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Aust Grimshadow
Acolyte
USA
45 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 13:44:47
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| I think tatoos would be cool for monks. Like they were saying the enchanted tatoos and the enchanted weapons might be too much, since monks use the body to fight anyways, the tatoos would be a suitable plus for a monk. |
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Drummer Boy
Senior Scribe
USA
395 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 14:27:57
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Originally posted by Aust Grimshadow
I think tatoos would be cool for monks. Like they were saying the enchanted tatoos and the enchanted weapons might be too much, since monks use the body to fight anyways, the tatoos would be a suitable plus for a monk.
Yes, IIRC there was a monk in Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal(the novel) with enchanted tattooes(sp.) that made his attacks stronger and could do damage when normal attacks could not(like when fighting a vampire). |
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Artalis
Senior Scribe
USA
444 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 15:18:19
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I like the idea a lot.
Couple of thoughts on the matter:
The ink itself would have to be "enchantment grade" and consequently expensive and the exotic ingredients might be poisonous therefor forcing a save to survive the tatooing process. The more powerfull the tattoo the more difficult the save....
The more powerfull the tatoo, the larger it is (and the longer it takes to complete).
For example a tatoo of protection from poison would likely require small amounts of poisons in the ink forcing a (relatively easy) save vs poison to escape damage and illness. Now depending on how thoroughly the protection is to be (ie. +10 to saves or whatever then the tatoo would get bigger, take more time, cost more money and require a more difficult save) |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 15:24:55
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| Yes, I like that one better. A tatoo would be something that only someone really strong and trained for such hardship -- like a monk -- could withstand during the long and difficult enchantment process. |
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 15:27:04
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Interesting
I wonder how we could impliment a way to actually place it in the game. Let us ponder this. |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 16:47:29
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Originally posted by Aust Grimshadow
I think tatoos would be cool for monks. Like they were saying the enchanted tatoos and the enchanted weapons might be too much, since monks use the body to fight anyways, the tatoos would be a suitable plus for a monk.
Page 163 of MoF: Monk's Tattoo  |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 17:08:45
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Not everyone has as many source books as you do, Zemd.
[Bookwyrm looks at his relatively small Forgotten Realms section.]
Unfortunately . . . .  |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 17:14:59
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So much, so much, ...???
<zemd looks at her books grumbling>
1,2,3,...,10,...,15,..
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Artalis
Senior Scribe
USA
444 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 17:29:32
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quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm
Not everyone has as many source books as you do, Zemd.
[Bookwyrm looks at his relatively small Forgotten Realms section.]
Unfortunately . . . .
Ahem, so what's keeping you from um... acquiring those sources oh great and scholarly Wyrm? |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 17:33:10
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[Bookwyrm upends his money purse, allowing a meger handful of gold coins to fall on to the table.]
That.  |
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Aust Grimshadow
Acolyte
USA
45 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2003 : 01:57:11
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[Aust also views the small sums of gold in his saving and looks at the countless amounts of bills piled upon his kitchen table.]
::sigh:: Im with you, Wyrm |
"Lies engulf the drow in fear and mistrust, refute friendship at the tip of a Lolth blessed sword. The hatred and ambition fostered by these amoral tenets are the doom of my people, a weakness they perceive as strength. The result is a paralyzing existence that the drow call the edge of readiness." -Drizzt Do'Urden |
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Salius Kai
Learned Scribe
USA
217 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2003 : 02:21:38
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[feels around his many pockets producing only scraps of paper and odd powders.]
I could use a few extra coin myself.[Looks over at Trafaldi.]
Anyways, I think if it were just a thingy to help balance monks (and make them a tad more popular) then that would be ok.
Mabey Monks would have a much better chance of rolling a saving throw than the rest of the classes, or something..... |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2003 : 08:07:42
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Guys, do you know why i've got money...
because i work with a lot of little stupid boys and girls that keep screaming and crying... anyway i can by books.
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Echon
Senior Scribe
Denmark
422 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2003 : 09:30:20
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Originally posted by zemd
Guys, do you know why i've got money...
because i work with a lot of little stupid boys and girls that keep screaming and crying... anyway i can by books.
But let's talk about tattoos
Besides, .pdf sourcebooks are a lot cheaper than the paper versions...
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2003 : 13:01:49
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Nearly all the books i have in pdf, i also have them in paper.
First i like pdf when i must look for something and then it's a lot more easier than to bring all the books where i play!
I have 86 books. And yes a lot of pdf, but it's because they are not found in France. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2003 : 15:23:05
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I would work, but I'm a full-time college student. And not one of those hardworking (*cough* masochistic) folks who hold down a job with this much work as well. I'm fortunate enough that my father can pay for it all. Unfortunately, it also means I have to do what he wants with that -- so even if I tried to get a job (which I did), he wants me to concentrate on my studies. Nothing wrong with that -- except for the fact that it's human nature to resent having your future planned out for you . . . .
Sorry, that turned into a rant. Guess I needed to vent a little.  |
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AraznBlair
Learned Scribe
USA
114 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2003 : 15:25:18
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I think that the Tattoo's for any class would be cool. I agree that there would have to be a balance to them. I think that there would be a couple of saves and checks would need to be made.
1. Constitution check would be needed to withstand the procedure
2. A Save v Poison
3. Wisdom check (can't really think of a reason why this would be done but it seems that it should be)
Any class could have any one of these saves and checks. Another thought would be to have a tattoo that enables certain spells such as stoneskin. Once use it becomes a regular tattoo. If you're good at making tattoos and you are a wizard or sorceror or even a cleric you could use your body as parchment to make scrolls. |
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