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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
 Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 14:46:14
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I have been thinking that it would be interesting for wizards to make a futuristic Forgotten realms same kind of maps and such but modern.
Yes I still love the swords and the sorcery but i think it would be interesting for them to try out a future forgotten realms. It would be interesting to see how it would turn out.
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Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me. |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 16:20:29
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| Well, i'm not very found of SciFi-Fantasy rpg. And i prefer the way it is right now, we learn about the realms every month. It grows as we grow |
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Echon
Senior Scribe
Denmark
422 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 17:15:45
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While not against sci-fi, cyberpunk-ish or post-nuclear settings (Fallout was amazing), I think the Realms are best off the way they are right now.
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"If others had not been foolish, we should be so."
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Edited by - Echon on 17 Mar 2003 17:16:00 |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 17:49:38
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I agree. It would be too much like skipping to the end of a book. I ruins the story, and the enjoyment thereof.
That said, there are some things that I would like to know the future of -- the "but what happens next?" sort of feel that you get at the end of a good story. I had that with S. M. Stirling's unamed trilogy ( I hate that! All trilogies and other series/groupings should have a title too!!!!  of the books Island in the Sea of Time, Against the Tide of Years, and On the Ocean of Eternity. (It's an alternate history story -- very good, but not for the faint of heart.) Same with Eric Flint's 1633 (another AH-genre book, but even better), though now David Weber's teamed up with him to write a series based on that one novel.
(Yes, Alaundo, I know it's not FR . . . . Yes, Alaundo, I know this is only for FR discussions . . . . Yes, Alaundo, I'm moving on . . . .)
([Very fast:] ...butifanyonewouldliketotalkaboutsuchthingswithmemyemailisopentoall!!  )
*whew!*
Anyway, to tie this tangent back on topic, the Forgotten Realms is one of the series that I think works best in the present. I don't want to explore its past without connection and revelance to the present. Evermeet: Island of Elves was a hisotry, but also an evolving tale on its own. (Um, maybe that was too confusing.) Anyway, same with the future -- it needs to be a coherent thread, rather than just "Let's jump ahead and see what happens!"
History is a compounded present. A leads to B leads to C, etc. To make it feel real you need to have the whole string in there. (Aspiring world-creators: feel free to jot this down.  The reader shouldn't have to ask any whys that aren't part of the story itself!)
All that said, I wouldn't object out of hand if you would like to write a fan fiction timeline: an idea of what you think that Toril might be like in the equivilent of the 20th (Oops, I mean 21st, I still haven't gotten used to that!  ) century. Just because I don't want it to be canon doesn't mean it might not be a good read, you know. |
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Targon Moonrise
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 17:59:55
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| I think I've seen a few stories like that on Fanfiction.net. I'm not advertising that site but they might have what you are looking for. Also, Bookwyrm is right, FR is best in the present not the future. |
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 18:50:35
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| I am not saying to change up the present world of FR But to make a different time period different books the old will still exsist but there will also be the new. The present is better though but i am just saying it would be interesting. |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 19:02:26
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Bookwyrm: You said everything i had in mind... Damn why don't you guys speak french?!
Trafaldi: I understood it that way, but something that took place in the past have consequences on our present and future, so the past realms books would lose a little bit of their interests.
--------SPOILERS----------- (i just recently understood what it means )
Reading the Avatar Trilogy i wouldn't like to read in a future FR book that Bane was bring back to life after his death during the ToT
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 19:04:49
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| If given the choice I will still play the present version though. |
Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me. |
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Salius Kai
Learned Scribe
USA
217 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 19:09:30
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Mabey they could just make a different realm altogether. Not use Fearun but the same races and rules (not like shadowrun). More like a, Toril 3000 years later, not enough time for space travel, but enough to not know what kind of weapons there would be.
Perhaps, with modern dress. The essence of magic and science counter acting each other (can we say Arcanum)
Anyways, I'm going to say go for it. At least try it out. It's really just personal opinion, and I prefer medieval role-play, but it would be an interesting change of pace. |
"Welcome to these walls of infinite knowledge."
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 19:09:45
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Without an hesitation, me too.
But it can be funny to have a 'preview' of the future of the realms (via a spell or something else) that we could wait as a big event that gather EVERYONE in faerun. Like the ToT (yes i love this period)
And did you understand what i meant in my last reply? And have you plaa in Myth Drannor 714DR, knowing that it'll fall in a few weeks... some of the fun is out |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 20:19:53
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Originally posted by zemd
*bleep* why don't you guys speak french?!
That's easy -- the French, during the Age of Exploration, had better armies, but the English had, until the turn of the previous century in fact, the greatest navy in the world. When so much of the world is water, then it makes sense that the English people, and their language, would spred farther. One fourth of the world, in fact, has at one time or another been under the control of the English people.
That's one of the reasons they didn't fight so hard to keep the rebellious thirteen colonies that formed the United States. Since they had so many other -- and richer! -- places to run, they figured the rebels weren't worth it.
So that's why we don't speak French. Well, there're other things, but that's the most major of the points.
[pause]
Oops, you were speaking rhetorically, weren't you?  Heh. Oh well.
And Trafaldi: No need to get defensive. We're not attacking you!  |
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Edited by - Bookwyrm on 17 Mar 2003 20:20:58 |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 22:03:15
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
5695 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2003 : 10:16:55
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Well Met
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
(Yes, Alaundo, I know it's not FR . . . . Yes, Alaundo, I know this is only for FR discussions . . . . Yes, Alaundo, I'm moving on . . . .)
 My dear Bookwyrm, do those heavy tomes of Realmslore not keep you busy enough? Maybe I should increase your workload if you have time for other such trivial non-Realms matters?!
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2003 : 14:57:23
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Alaundo, you see these boots? These boots were made for world-walking!
(Sorry. Old song reference. )
Really, I only got my FR-fixation back when I joined this forum. |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2003 : 18:54:31
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I think we are a bit far from the subject, aren't we?
Trafaldi, do you know the rpg called Shadowrun, does it look like what you call a Future FR? |
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2003 : 19:00:59
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| I have heard of Shadowrun but I have not had a chance to play it. I have heard mixed differences about it. |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2003 : 19:06:09
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| I like the story, but the game system is very slow. So i don't play it with their rules |
Edited by - zemd on 18 Mar 2003 19:07:08 |
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2003 : 19:11:40
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| Thats what i have heard as well thats why myself and Salius are making one on our own. |
Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2003 : 19:20:17
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| You're making an RPG? I assume it's a magitech? (Magic/technology mix.) |
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2003 : 15:58:23
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| Yes, not as much technology I have the world drawn out and I am using it to as a basis for my book. |
Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me. |
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Zacas
Learned Scribe
USA
261 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2003 : 18:06:37
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I think it would be kind of interesting to see what the future would be like...
Maybe have the old fashioned time traveller(sp?) come back from the future to right some ancient wrong that fudged up his future (gee has this been over played in way too many movies, comics, books.. but hey... it'd work)
Tho technically there has been some time travel in some of the novels of the realms for those that don't know... tho it's into the past for the characters if i recal right...
Hmm... well enough of that...
::he wanders off... somehow ending up next to Alaundo and hands the 'old' sage a long hickory stick that he pulled from out of nowhere... then with another hickory stick he wanders off silently after Bookwyrm... *THWACK*:: hehehe... some school's final attack... RUN AWAY! ::he turns and flees:: |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2003 : 18:33:18
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| [Bookwyrm casts animate object on the stick that Zarcas had dropped, causing it to chase after him and smack him repeatedly.] |
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Rekindin
Acolyte
USA
43 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2003 : 18:42:33
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| Even though i think it is a great idea, Forgotten Realms is known for swords and sorcery(and everyone here is too) You don't get the same feeling with a sword then a gun. And a gun dosen't take any skill. So it is better as is my kind sir.... |
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Zacas
Learned Scribe
USA
261 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2003 : 23:27:53
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::blinks at the animated stick as it whacks him:: Hmm... remind me to get some anti-magic based sticks next time...
::he quickly takes hold of the stick and it goes rigid as the magic is absorbed, then the stick bursts info flames as the raw energy is rechanneled back into the wood:: Bleh... such a waste..
::He glares at Bookwyrm:: spoilsport know-it-all... :P heh... |
I am like a superhero, with no powers or motivation.
I have gone to find myself. If I get back before I return, please keep me here.
People like you are the reason people like me are on medication. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 00:09:39
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| Yes I am. Get used to it. |
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Jaysen Darclyght
Acolyte
USA
43 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2003 : 16:26:30
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Guns do take skill to use effectively. I think i'm a decent shot, and i have no formal gun training. Give me a sniper rifle and you'll get no results. Until the modern invention of the personal machine gun, you had to aim the gun and to do that you were trained.
It may be true that a gun takes less skill to use, but in the end it still takes skill and the training gone into using it well creates the same respect (in a normal person) for the weapon that sword training would. Normal cops aren't trigger happy, nor are soldiers. Normal swordsmen aren't sword happy. Regardless of the weapon, they all take some training to use effectively.
Many famous people who used guns named them! Ever heard of Old Betsy? She was a nice flintlock (i think) musket. And she was wielded by.....The King of the Wild Frontier, Mr. Daavvvvyyyy Crooocckkett! He respected guns.
Now with that said, ::leans back and watches Bookwyrm and Zacas go at it with the stick:: |
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