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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
 Posted - 10 Jan 2003 : 15:47:27
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Most people choose to be the Universal wizard and not relize their are specialty classes for wizards.
Abjurner
Conjurner
Diviner
Enchanter
Evoker
Illusionist
Necromancer
Transmuter
They all can gain extra spells for their class. The players handbook gives the basic of these classes. So what is your choice of wizards class.
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Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me. |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jan 2003 : 16:54:21
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THE ILLUSIONIST!
Er, ok he's maybe not the best in every situations (dealing with undeads for example!) but i think he is so fun fun to play with. I think it's the character which ask the players the most imagination |
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Hymn
Senior Scribe
Sweden
514 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jan 2003 : 17:33:52
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| Enchanter of course *waves with his hands* Mocho feare. Now tell me what is "the" wizard class of choice. |
Sauro moki kara ochiro - Even monkeys falls from trees.
The path that leads to truth is littered with the bodies of the ignorant - Miyamoto Musashi |
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Feanor_Karnil
Learned Scribe
USA
132 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jan 2003 : 18:47:20
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| Necromancers, they cast all sorts of death spells and can resurect as well. The would be good and bad. |
We live in a bleak world my friend, where heroes are few and shadows stalk us around every corner.
-Mikai Daerni |
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Salius Kai
Learned Scribe
USA
217 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jan 2003 : 19:02:37
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| I'm going to have to say i favor Illusionist's (what a surprise, eh?) I like the whole, make people beleive what you want them too thing. |
"Welcome to these walls of infinite knowledge."
Salius Kai |
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jan 2003 : 05:29:33
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| Universal wizard would probably be the best because they have knowledge of everything. Specialist can just get extra spells in the school that they are proficient but cant use spells from another school. |
Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me. |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jan 2003 : 12:43:18
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Do you know the Nimbral's wizards?
They specialist Illusionist and can cast spells from all schools. They can also see magic, add bonus spells like priest using Intelligence instead of wisdom (no use in 3rd edition unless you give them twice their normal bonus spells), see invisiblility and infravision up to 120ft
But they suffer major drawbacks: they cannot use weapon, their hitdice is D3, their eyes are their major weakness (-4 against gaseous attacks, ...)
I love them, but it's very hard to play, you have to rely only on your mental abilitues |
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Dark_Lord
Seeker
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Posted - 13 Jan 2003 : 16:35:55
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| What kind of question is this? There is simply no answer. You can't say that Invoker is more powerful then Enchanter just because he deals damage, and such. The most powerful should be High Level Necromancer, but that is arguable too. Wizards are 'allpower' characters and there is no measure of their might. |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2003 : 17:16:43
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Dark Lord, it's not a question about which specialist wizard is the most powerful! It's what we personnaly think about them!
The topic's title should be "According to you what is the best specialist wizard?" |
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
1338 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2003 : 17:20:19
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Hah... In that case... how about a chronomancer... he'll just pop back into time to undo all that the other wizards have tried to achieve...
Hmm... don't believe that would work...
My personal favorites would be the conjurer, enchanter and illusionist. As to why? I don't know, I don't have a special preference for arcane spellcasters, just from a role-playing point of view these seem to be the most interesting ones to me. |
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Cherrn
Learned Scribe
Denmark
323 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2003 : 17:58:49
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| Hmmmm Enchanter is my fave, you gain the ultimate power since you can get everyone to do what you want them to do. Its the power over peoples minds and actions. |
A wise man from Calimport once told me: "If a merchant puts sand in the flask of oil he's trying to sell you, then he isn't trying to sell you sand..." |
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Dark_Lord
Seeker
63 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2003 : 21:29:55
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quote:
Originally posted by zemd
Dark Lord, it's not a question about which specialist wizard is the most powerful! It's what we personnaly think about them!
The topic's title should be "According to you what is the best specialist wizard?"
In that, and any other case my choice would be Necromancer....Being that manipulates with powers of life and death is just to cool for me... |
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Salius Kai
Learned Scribe
USA
217 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2003 : 23:04:45
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| I don't know, I thought that too. But In 3e, it seems their more about life and less about death. |
"Welcome to these walls of infinite knowledge."
Salius Kai |
Edited by - Salius Kai on 13 Jan 2003 23:06:43 |
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Hymn
Senior Scribe
Sweden
514 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jan 2003 : 10:11:15
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A note if you ever want to time travel.
Mystryl created the time conduit spell to allow travel
through time strictly on her terms. Wizards who sought to
bypass her rules of time travel through new spells ultimately
failed. No matter their methods, they found that Mystryl's
time conduit spell was the only way to time travel.
Mystryl's time-
travel magic is tied to annual cycles; spellcasters and their
companions who traveled back through time always arrive
on the first day of a new year, and the magic recalls them to
their original time at the end of the last day of that year. No
magic within the past or present timeline, not even an-
timagic shells or prismatic spheres, can prevent the recall
of a time-traveler back to his original time. There are a wide
range of side effects to travel by time conduits that were far
more surprising and disturbing to time-travelers. If you do anything that effects the future when you are time traveling. You will either be stranded in that time (since you cant travel forward in time by casting Time Conduit) or recalled to you own time.
Ninth-Level Spell: Time Conduit
(Alteration, Chronomancy)
Range: 30 feet Components: V, S, M
Duration: Special Casting Time: 1 turn
Area of Effect: Special Saving Throw: None |
Sauro moki kara ochiro - Even monkeys falls from trees.
The path that leads to truth is littered with the bodies of the ignorant - Miyamoto Musashi |
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The Defence Minister
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
218 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jan 2003 : 17:35:10
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I like Conjurers and Necromancers a lot but my fav is Illusionist - purely because I like Gnomes 
TDM |
- TDM (Candlekeep's most popular, experienced and handsome member) |
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Dark_Lord
Seeker
63 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jan 2003 : 19:38:27
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quote:
Originally posted by Salius_Kai
I don't know, I thought that too. But In 3e, it seems their more about life and less about death.
I'm not relying on 3rd edition when I think about classes. My vision is my vision, alone... |
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Alexis Merlin
Learned Scribe
USA
115 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jan 2003 : 21:52:17
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I would agree with Dark Lord on this point - Necromancer has always been my traditional favourite...nothing like a legion of uncontrolled undead creatures chasing a party to create good 'teamwork'...
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It is knowledge that influences and equalizes the social condition of man; that gives to all, however different their political position, passions which are in common, and enjoyments which are universal.
(Benjamin Disraeli)
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Hymn
Senior Scribe
Sweden
514 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jan 2003 : 22:56:15
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| Necromancer, pff. Enchanter. Why controll a host of undead when you can controll the living. Now, a simple question. Would you prefer a harem of undead creatures or living. |
Sauro moki kara ochiro - Even monkeys falls from trees.
The path that leads to truth is littered with the bodies of the ignorant - Miyamoto Musashi |
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AraznBlair
Learned Scribe
USA
114 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jan 2003 : 15:35:11
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| All the Specialist classes seems like they would be ideal in certain situations only. But in general I like the idea of an Illusionist for they are the most creative of all wizards. My only problem is (and I have never played an Illusionist for this fact) is how do you get creative with the spells given to you in the PHB? I've read the novels where powerfull Illusions have been casts but still what spell or combination of spells are used to create that illusion. It seems that I would be spending more time preparing for the spells than actually game playing. |
Arazn Blair
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Echon
Senior Scribe
Denmark
422 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jan 2003 : 18:52:09
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I think I would prefer playing an Abjurer. Do not ask why.
Beyond that I would probably play a Necromancer or an Illusionist.
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"If others had not been foolish, we should be so."
-William Blake |
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sabre
Acolyte
Turkey
47 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jan 2003 : 07:23:28
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I guess Ýnvoker is the best choice for me.The simple thought of creating energy out of nowhere thrilles me.With the feat energy substitution now i can do almost anything with the energy now.
think about it now u can throw a lightning bolt to a scene and if it can't be able to take down the target because it is electric-based
you can always change it to one quarter acid,one quarter fire,and one quarter sonic as you please...Yeah i guess that would be fine.
Ý gotto play a high-level invoker in these days... |
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Dark_Lord
Seeker
63 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jan 2003 : 10:02:54
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quote:
Originally posted by Hymn
Necromancer, pff. Enchanter. Why controll a host of undead when you can controll the living. Now, a simple question. Would you prefer a harem of undead creatures or living.
feeling.... |
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Drummer Boy
Senior Scribe
USA
395 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jan 2003 : 05:40:35
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| I think I like the universal wizard the best because I think being able to cast any kind of spell outweighs the advantage of having an extra spell slot. Just MHO... |
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Ranaghar Tsaran
Learned Scribe
Poland
133 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jan 2003 : 21:01:16
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Evoker!!!
Eventhou, I am very friendly drow I like "agressive" magic...There's nothing better than shoot a magic missile into a goblin's face |
"Do not be afraid of greatness. Some achieve greatness, some are born great, and some have greatness thrust upon them..." |
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Salius Kai
Learned Scribe
USA
217 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2003 : 15:50:30
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| Universal? They don't pick one of the schools of magic to speacialize in they just do it all. Could that even be considered a specialist? |
"Welcome to these walls of infinite knowledge."
Salius Kai |
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jan 2003 : 18:59:37
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Universal wizards choose to study all of the schools so you could see it either way that they are their own type or not.
Your choice |
Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me. |
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jan 2003 : 08:33:50
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Well, I'm not a "Friendly" drow like the other guy, so I'm gonna have to go with a Necromancer on this one
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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Blacksage
Acolyte
31 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2003 : 20:18:03
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For me, the best wizard was a red wizard enchanter in 2nd ed.
(do they still take 2 school spells/spell level?)
If not a red wizard the best choice would still be an enchanter, because if the opposing schools are chosen necro. and divination, you don't lose much. |
till the daggers part... |
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Jander Sunstar
Learned Scribe
Turkey
275 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2003 : 12:20:46
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| I like enchanter too, evokation is good also but loosing one of conjuration, illusion, transmution, abjuration is not very good. But I would like to play monk/envoker if it is possible |
Punish me if you will, for my hands are not clean. But deny me not my revenge!"
-Jander Sunstar |
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Cherrn
Learned Scribe
Denmark
323 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2003 : 20:16:06
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| Personally I would be an enchanter if I was to be something, but I reckon diviner would be one of the most powerful types of specialist wizards. You know, they can see everything before it happens and then prepare for it. Isn't that what power is all about ? |
A wise man from Calimport once told me: "If a merchant puts sand in the flask of oil he's trying to sell you, then he isn't trying to sell you sand..." |
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Daryen
Acolyte
Norway
11 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2003 : 09:43:53
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hmmm... abjurer i guess... its fun to stand outside someones window, then gate in a balor!!! HAVOC! but it can also be nice when you are in the woods.. trolls and stuff hate fire... BALOR!!!  |
You may believe there is a all good and loving god who tells you: love everyone, even your strongest enemies! bah! can the torn and bloody victim love the bloodspattered jaws that rend him limb from limb? |
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The best specialist wizard.
