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branmakmuffin
Senior Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 05 Jun 2003 : 22:25:37
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<snip> you can always create your own prestige class, as long as it's well thought-out, not unbalancing in your campaign, and you have the DM's permission.
Have you seen some of the prestige classes people have created and published on the Internet? Ugh!
My favorite would have to be the Assassin. I'm only familiar with the ones in the DMG. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2003 : 07:54:56
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| What did you think of the Elemental Summoner I linked to then? I'm curious to know what actual players think of it. Since I don't really know how to use it, I can't make a judgement on it . . . . Save for the fact that this person obviously put in a lot of time, effort, and planning into its creation. |
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branmakmuffin
Senior Scribe
USA
428 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2003 : 22:00:52
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| I don't play D&D any more than you do. The only books I have beyond the 3 Core are FR-related. I know nothing of using prestige classes in actual gaming. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31727 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2003 : 06:49:34
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The Elemental Summoner, is particulaly good for those players who wish to rely a lot on Elementals and other outsiders, to perform much of the combat they will be involved in. It seems to utilise much of what would be expected for a major summoning class, much like the 'Demonologist' PrC.
The class features seem well balanced and really the define the class as a master of conjuration magics. The feats seem a little basic and plain to begin with, but get better and much more complex as the class proceeds in levels.
All in all, an interesting class to use. I have already put it on the list of useful PrC for my next campaign, as I am eager to see how it performs in actual game play.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2003 : 10:16:39
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I'll tell him that, when I finally get around to emailing the author. I've been meaning to express my delight on something (non-D&D) that he created.
::Now where did I put my ring of non-procrastination?:: |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2003 : 11:49:19
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| No, I just ran across his website for another reason, and noticed that he had a page on D&D as an aside. I clicked, I looked, I linked. I'll have to get around to that letter of apreciation soon. |
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
933 Posts |
Posted - 17 Sep 2003 : 16:42:33
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| Does anyone have the Bladesinger class info at hand? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Cult_Leader
Learned Scribe
USA
337 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2003 : 13:58:28
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| The Lancer from the war book, The Sheild Bearer form the war book, and the snipe from the war books are all my three fave classes that I have seen so far. All three are very strong and non-magical based classes. Well done. They can be found in AEG's war book. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 19 Sep 2003 : 14:44:51
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| Mine would have to be the incantatrix, from Magic of Faerun. Other candidates would be the planar champion(from the Manual of the Planes) and the verdant lord and geomancer(from Masters of the Wild). |
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shadow258300
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 23 Sep 2003 : 21:17:23
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there are also presitge classes in Dragon Magazine. There are also gobs that are on the net.
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shadow258300
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 23 Sep 2003 : 21:39:26
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To many of the PrC are situational,(sp?) while others are god-awful powerful. Them some are completely useless. My favorite is the Elder Druid. A character that liches himself can cast asa much as he wants. He now can cast all of his spells until he runs out, then take CON damage. Since liches have no CON, he can cast anything in his arsenal. This is a PrC that is VERY powerful, and will overbalance a campaign in no time.
There is also the Mystic Theurge. It is a arcane/divine spellcaster class the makes the character so powerful it's stupid. You have to be able to cast 2nd level arcane an divine spells to take the class. So a 20th level character is technically a 15th level cleric/15th level wizard. Granted there is a trade off though. The effective characrter level that a cleric turns undead is only for the levels of cleric not any Mystic Theurge. Same for the wizards familiar. However all the spells work as a 15th level cleric or wizard. Mighty Powerful!
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Cult_Leader
Learned Scribe
USA
337 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2003 : 14:37:57
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| I still have yet to post up the one that I Made. Perhaps I will post it up tonight then when i get home. You can then all bask in my glory. For I shall share it with you all. I made a bit of a powerful class with a major RPG downfall. YOu have to be good at acting, and changing your mind setting to play one of these chars. Which automatically makes most people not even try. Its to hard heh. |
"Madness you say! Do you fear me? Are you afraid of what I might do, of what I might say? What a fascinating reaction. Don't you find it somewhat encumbering?"
Piddles assumes a deep and resonant voice. "Space...the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship...Garou. It's mission: to slay Wyrm creatures where they live and breed. To accumulate more Garou than the world's entire population. To produce metis like no one has before." - Piddles
"Aren't you people supposed to be doing something? Like, entertaining me, the fascist wizard?" - InleRah
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2003 : 15:20:06
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Personally, I rather like the Duelist PrC. I've a customized character I made for Sage's PebM (currently under review by the same person) that is going to be taking levels in that. He's a Fighter 4/Wizard 5, and since he has an Intelligence score of 20, he'll effectively gain a +5 dodge bonus (since Duelists add their Int bonus to Dexterity for the purposes of AC, like Bladesingers do) when he gets to the next level up stage. (Assuming, of course, that the character doesn't die before then. ) At Character Level 11, he'll take another level in Wizard.
He's a fencer, basically; part of the customization was trading some class features for other feats. This guy may be a fighter, but he has never worn armor or used a shield, and has focused his training on the rapier. He uses the metamagic feat Imbue Weapon (a d20 feat) to channel touch spells into his weapon and strike with it. (That way, if his attack roll beats the full AC as well as the touch-AC, the target takes damage from the weapon as well.)
I've put a lot of thought into this guy, and I've made sure that every character feature is reflected in his background. The story's important, but I use the specifics of game info to drive who and what the characters are. He's a complicated sort, and I think he's going to be fun to play. |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
829 Posts |
Posted - 29 Sep 2003 : 01:50:48
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Did non of the females like the Hathran?The elite witches of Rashemen.
Sorry boo!!
I like the PrC Purple Dragon Knight myself.Its almost like being a Paladin but alignment is more flexable.More leadership skill needed. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Arteris
Learned Scribe
121 Posts |
Posted - 30 Sep 2003 : 02:41:47
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| Shadow Dancer, or Assassin |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
829 Posts |
Posted - 01 Oct 2003 : 02:45:43
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Originally posted by Arteris
Shadow Dancer, or Assassin
Hey, I remember them from Dune.Did you have the "Emperor of Dune"
game? Shadow Dancers are bad news,like a doppleganger with Assassin skills. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Arteris
Learned Scribe
121 Posts |
Posted - 01 Oct 2003 : 04:10:52
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| Nope I didnt. Also... Common misconception is that all Shadow Dancers are bad or evil assassins and crap. This moron who used to play with us came up to me one session and said in these exact words(And in a pompus tone like he knew everything) "Basicly.. Shadow Dancers are the evilest people around, they can kill in the blink of an eye" I was like.. "..Uhh... No, they arent like Assassins where they have to be evil to join the prestige class, if you read the DMG it says they may use their abilities in anyway they want" and the last Shadow Dancer I had was the nicest guy you could ever meet... Unless of course you made fun of his goofey tatoo :oP (Also, he continued to argue the point with me untill the DM came over and hit him with the "meta game stick A.K.A. wiffle bat" :oP) |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
829 Posts |
Posted - 01 Oct 2003 : 04:29:34
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Whole different animal then.The ones on Dune are masters of deception
and like a guild of trained Assissans.There is a movie clip of one
trying to kill one of the Sardaukar generals.Thats just a little about
them but since its not the same,no need to finish. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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zhentar reborn
Acolyte
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Posted - 01 Oct 2003 : 05:05:33
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Purple Dragon. What? Purple Dragon? What in the name of Ao is a known Zhentilar veteran doing admiring the Purple Dragon prestige class?
Well my fellow scribes, I'm a moron! I just can't get my head around all of this new multi-multi-multi-classing. It's just a question of not enough fluid intelligence left! I'm a meat and potatoes kind of gamer anyway. Fighter or wizards, you know just the basics. And the purple dragon description allows for it to represent elite soldiers from any area! 
So if any of you ever find yourselves up around the Moonsea and are challenged to single combat by a Zhentilar veteran, just yell: "Hey, Zhentar it's me (insert name here) your 'ol buddy from Candlekeep!" |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
829 Posts |
Posted - 02 Oct 2003 : 01:03:00
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Originally posted by zhentar reborn
Purple Dragon. What? Purple Dragon? What in the name of Ao is a known Zhentilar veteran doing admiring the Purple Dragon prestige class?
Well my fellow scribes, I'm a moron! I just can't get my head around all of this new multi-multi-multi-classing. It's just a question of not enough fluid intelligence left! I'm a meat and potatoes kind of gamer anyway. Fighter or wizards, you know just the basics. And the purple dragon description allows for it to represent elite soldiers from any area!
So if any of you ever find yourselves up around the Moonsea and are challenged to single combat by a Zhentilar veteran, just yell: "Hey, Zhentar it's me (insert name here) your 'ol buddy from Candlekeep!"
You must have me mistaken with someone else...
I never claimed to be a Zhentilar veteran.Maybe I misunderstood and you were talking to someone else.I don't go near the Moonsea this
time of year!!! |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Feanor_Karnil
Learned Scribe
USA
132 Posts |
Posted - 05 Oct 2003 : 23:15:38
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2003 : 00:31:49
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Well I'm partial to the Planeswalker prestiege class in MotP just because it's the title... I'm a old fan of the Magic the Gathering series and devout follower of Urza, of course lacking that i'd have to say hhhmmm well
followed by Blackguard DMG, Fang of Lolth() S&S, Alienist T&B, Acolyte of the Skin T&B, and that about it...
their actually in the order so.. Blackguard ( cause they a kewl evil paly), Fang of Lolth ( cause then no matter what race I can justifibly serve Lolth and not be immediatly killed by all drow, they'd wait a few seconds), Alienist ( cause they have that far out connection witht the far realms... Far out Far Realms... DDUUUDDDEE!)
Acolyte of the Skin ( cause you become a fiend without being a fiend... plus you could try to muck around in infernal politics) |
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Jander Sunstar
Learned Scribe
Turkey
275 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2003 : 00:33:19
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| tempest is the coolest to me. you can fight like a huricane with two weapon. but forsaker is quite a good class if you dont like magic. you get a ability bonus with every level. quite amazing. but you cant use magical stuff but you learn to use your weapons as if they were magical |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
829 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2003 : 04:14:20
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| Cardinal,I too like the planeswalker! |
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Cult_Leader
Learned Scribe
USA
337 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2003 : 14:00:02
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| *Just shuts their plane down to make cool little stones* Now I rule you all hehe. Anyway. No. Said it before say it again. I like mundane classes. Like Sheild bearer, Sniper, Jester, and The Lance. Just something about Mundane a$$ kickers that makes me happy. |
"Madness you say! Do you fear me? Are you afraid of what I might do, of what I might say? What a fascinating reaction. Don't you find it somewhat encumbering?"
Piddles assumes a deep and resonant voice. "Space...the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship...Garou. It's mission: to slay Wyrm creatures where they live and breed. To accumulate more Garou than the world's entire population. To produce metis like no one has before." - Piddles
"Aren't you people supposed to be doing something? Like, entertaining me, the fascist wizard?" - InleRah
I have the passwords to the minds of everyone and the cheat codes to the universe - Me |
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Jander Sunstar
Learned Scribe
Turkey
275 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2003 : 15:16:17
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I have two questions William i will be gratefull if you answer.
Where can i find purple dragon prestige class
the second is a little bit dumb question but do all the purple dragons have to take this prestige class first? |
Punish me if you will, for my hands are not clean. But deny me not my revenge!"
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
829 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2003 : 23:24:15
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Originally posted by Jander Sunstar
I have two questions William i will be gratefull if you answer.
Where can i find purple dragon prestige class
the second is a little bit dumb question but do all the purple dragons have to take this prestige class first?
No problem,FRCs book 2e page 49, and no its not a dumb question because not all who serve in the purple dragon knights have this prestige class and it isn't necessary to serve.
Any Fighter,Ranger,Paladin,Bard,Cleric,or Rogue can become one.
It says Sorcerers and Wizards tend to join the War Wizards though.
Any Non evil and non chaotic alignment.The only ones it leaves out as a class are Barbarians,Druids,and Monks. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Jander Sunstar
Learned Scribe
Turkey
275 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2003 : 09:57:35
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quote:
Originally posted by William of Waterdeep
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Originally posted by Jander Sunstar
I have two questions William i will be gratefull if you answer.
Where can i find purple dragon prestige class
the second is a little bit dumb question but do all the purple dragons have to take this prestige class first?
No problem,FRCs book 2e page 49, and no its not a dumb question because not all who serve in the purple dragon knights have this prestige class and it isn't necessary to serve.
Any Fighter,Ranger,Paladin,Bard,Cleric,or Rogue can become one.
It says Sorcerers and Wizards tend to join the War Wizards though.
Any Non evil and non chaotic alignment.The only ones it leaves out as a class are Barbarians,Druids,and Monks.
Thanks a lot William. I m preparing an adventure in cormyr. So ý dont want my players know more than me. I m grateful for your help |
Punish me if you will, for my hands are not clean. But deny me not my revenge!"
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