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zemd
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Posted - 21 Mar 2003 :  08:01:44  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It depends if you want to be more fighter than wizard, the contrary or 50/50

But i think Nighteyes is more 50/50 so:

Fighter4/Wizard2 (without the ambidextry feat, i could have made that ftr3/wiz3)

Then you can multiclass as a Bladesinger. And you can put level in the previous class again.
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Trafaldi
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Posted - 21 Mar 2003 :  15:52:20  Show Profile  Visit Trafaldi's Homepage Send Trafaldi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I haven't had a chance to play any prestige classes yet but from what I have read on them Assassin sounds interesting.

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zemd
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Posted - 21 Mar 2003 :  16:02:44  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You must be evil to be an Assassin! But it's really a great character class! Especially for vicious DM (i used one, ... great!
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Artalis
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Posted - 21 Mar 2003 :  20:56:59  Show Profile Send Artalis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zemd

It depends if you want to be more fighter than wizard, the contrary or 50/50

But i think Nighteyes is more 50/50 so:

Fighter4/Wizard2 (without the ambidextry feat, i could have made that ftr3/wiz3)

Then you can multiclass as a Bladesinger. And you can put level in the previous class again.



I noted that spell progression only goes to 4th lvl spells for Bladesingers. Also the chart stops at 10th lvl. Is their no possibility of advancement after 10th lvl and if there is...does a bladesinger ever get 5th lvl and higher spells?

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zemd
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Posted - 21 Mar 2003 :  22:33:01  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You can't gain further level in Bladesinger. If you want 5th level spells, you'll need to rise the wizard's level
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 23 Mar 2003 :  19:47:22  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How do these prestige classes work? I can't find them in my Player's Handbook.

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zemd
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Posted - 23 Mar 2003 :  21:24:32  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They are not in the PHB, but in DM guide book, where everything is explained. But you can find prestige class in every D20 books
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 24 Mar 2003 :  07:16:45  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What's a D20, then? (Sorry, I know I'm a pain.)

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Lord Rad
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Posted - 24 Mar 2003 :  07:55:53  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm

What's a D20, then? (Sorry, I know I'm a pain.)



D20 is the name given to the Open Gaming Licence (OGL) (i think thats what it stands for anyway ) which allows other game publishers to produce D&D compatible products etc. Check out www.wizards.com/d20 for more info.

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zemd
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Posted - 29 Mar 2003 :  18:02:20  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salius Kai

Question: Is there an Alchemist prestige class. Is it possible to make your own prestige classes?



I searched deeper (eng?) in my books and i found it in Mercenaries.
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Drummer Boy
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Posted - 29 Mar 2003 :  22:38:12  Show Profile  Visit Drummer Boy's Homepage Send Drummer Boy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zemd

quote:
Originally posted by Salius Kai

Question: Is there an Alchemist prestige class. Is it possible to make your own prestige classes?



I searched deeper (eng?) in my books and i found it in Mercenaries.



It's also in Magic of Faerun.
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Salius Kai
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Posted - 03 Apr 2003 :  03:00:35  Show Profile  Visit Salius Kai's Homepage Send Salius Kai a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Origianally posted by: zemd

I searched deeper (eng?) in my books and i found it in Mercenaries.


quote:
Origianally posted by: Drummer Boy

It's also in Magic of Faerun.


Thank you, both. I'll have to look into gaining those books (as of now I have very few). You have probably saved me from an endless search. I found alot of alchemist presteige classes, all of which were different. So I didn't know which one, if any, was the real one.

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Minardil
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Posted - 25 May 2003 :  08:13:14  Show Profile  Visit Minardil's Homepage Send Minardil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tough question...
Bladesinger (my own version), because the idea of slender elf dancing and dodging in middle of orc-horde while cutting them down is so nice...
Archmage, because... Well, they're archmages... (if someone didn't notice yet, I'm a mage/magic fan...)
Wild mage, because they can cause so many funny situations.
Arcane archers are nice too.

By the way, I have seen references to "elven high mage"-prestige class (or was it elven archmage? Dunno.). In what book it is detailed?

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zemd
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Posted - 25 May 2003 :  09:09:33  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's in Races of Faerun... It's a very powerful prestige class
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Mournblade
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Posted - 25 May 2003 :  16:52:26  Show Profile Send Mournblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Unnaproachable EAST has some NICE classes! I love that the Spirit Folk are in it as well. Aglarrondar Griffon Rider! Guardian of the Yuirwood! And I love the DARK wychlaran. Also the THayan Slaver was great as well. I was not expecting them to have arcane magic. Still my favourite prestige class has to be the BLADESINGER tied with the ARCHMAGE.


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Leona
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Posted - 26 May 2003 :  03:06:05  Show Profile  Visit Leona's Homepage Send Leona a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like the Archmage prestige class and the Red Wizard class also. The Archmage class is way too powerful with the mastery of elements feat though. It gives you unparalleled versatilty. Imagine, you can throw fireballs, iceballs, lightning balls, sonic balls, acid balls and watever type of balls you can think of.
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Mournblade
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Posted - 26 May 2003 :  06:49:14  Show Profile Send Mournblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Leona

I like the Archmage prestige class and the Red Wizard class also. The Archmage class is way too powerful with the mastery of elements feat though. It gives you unparalleled versatilty. Imagine, you can throw fireballs, iceballs, lightning balls, sonic balls, acid balls and watever type of balls you can think of.



You are absolutely correct there! I have a PC wizard converted to archmage, of VERY HIGH level. He has the Archmage ability of Master of Elements, and a permanent maximized/quickened delayed blast fireball usable 2/day as his chosen mage ability. Thsi means essentially ANY dragon is going to have a tough time against him because he will just change it too a (INSERT ELEMENT HERE) Ball that the Dragon will be Vulnerable too. I worked it out and it does about 300 pts of damage before saving. If he meets a RED he does a COLD ball, Meets a white it stays fireball. I must say I love this ability, and it was done with the original epic level system presented in FRCS.


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Targon Moonrise
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Posted - 27 May 2003 :  02:45:46  Show Profile  Visit Targon Moonrise's Homepage Send Targon Moonrise a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was wondering if anybody knew a page for the statistics of a Geomancer Prestige Class. I'm think of having my Druid/Sorcercer becoming a Geomancer.

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The Sage
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31774 Posts

Posted - 27 May 2003 :  15:30:59  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would have to say, for myself, my favorite PrC's would have to be -

Loremaster (obviously)
Red Wizard
Archmage

I am also fond of the Bladesinger PrC, but there are a few things about the mechanics of the class, that I don't like. So I am currently tinkering with it to make it more like how I want Bladesingers to be.

Good learning...



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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 29 May 2003 :  08:17:11  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I recently (just last night) found a homebrewed prestige class posted on the web. This person put a lot of thought into this thing. It's too big to repost here, so I'll just make a link to it instead.

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The Sage
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Posted - 29 May 2003 :  08:34:08  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like this alot.

You are right Bookwyrm, there has indeed been a lot of work put into this PrC. A great find indeed. I can't wait to work this into a campaign, my mind is already abuzz with some great possibilities.



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eilinel
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Posted - 03 Jun 2003 :  08:50:07  Show Profile  Visit eilinel's Homepage Send eilinel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i like the arcan trickster, which is really funny to play for rogue/wizard

u should also look at the incantatrix prestige class, one of the best for me if u get the last levels.

i like the loremaster too, classic but efficient.

i like the duelist and the bladesinger for an elf fighter or someone playing the same style.

i like the prestige classes that are in the Faith and Pantheon book. Some are great.
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The Sage
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Posted - 03 Jun 2003 :  09:29:56  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually my favorite PrC from Faiths and Pantheons would have to be the 'Dweomerkeeper'. I used this on the dwarf wizard PC I was running in the recent Silver Marches campaign I just ran, it was fun .



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eilinel
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Posted - 03 Jun 2003 :  09:35:28  Show Profile  Visit eilinel's Homepage Send eilinel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
yes, this one is very good, but also difficult to reach, that makes it even more interesting...
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The Sage
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Posted - 03 Jun 2003 :  09:43:57  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You're absolutely right. At first I was a little trepidious, about adding the class to the dwarven PC I was playing, but I soon came to realise that this class would be quite a challenge for a dwarf to achieve. And since dwarves strive for perfection in everything they do, I played the PC along similiar lines, striving to reach and make this class his own despite the treatment he would later receive from his dwarfkin.



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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 03 Jun 2003 :  09:50:14  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesting class. How good was it, actually?

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The Sage
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Posted - 03 Jun 2003 :  09:59:28  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Quite good in my opinion. I liked the aspect of the class that states it as a type of magic-guardian, protecting the integrity of the Weave. Plus I just liked the Cloak of Mysteries supernatural ability. In all, though the class worked great, even with a dwarven PC. Of course the reason it worked so good might also have been for the occurence that the party recently faced a Shadow Weave practitioner.



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eilinel
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Posted - 05 Jun 2003 :  11:47:41  Show Profile  Visit eilinel's Homepage Send eilinel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
if u like the cloak of Mysteries, u should look at the the Incantatrix pretige class, good too. But i already said that.
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The Sage
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I am not really fond of the Incantrix PrC. To me it just doesn't seem to fit right into my campaigns when I try to run the class. I have been thinking about modifying the PrC a little to conform more to what I would want it to represent.



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The Sage
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Of course the fact that none of my players ever choose to use this PrC may also suggest that there may be some inherent problems with it from my players perspective.




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