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Salius Kai
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 Posted - 16 Mar 2003 : 06:06:16
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I don't know if this has been asked yet, but I'm to tired to check and I have a question to go with it sooo....
Whats your favorite prestige class. Why?
Question: Is there an Alchemist prestige class. Is it possible to make your own prestige classes? If so, could someone show me website or something to aid me in creation of it?
Thank you.
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 16 Mar 2003 : 11:26:48
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Hard question!!!
There're so much prestige class! The Arcane Trickster is quite cool, the Archmage (sp?) too, definitly the Arcane Archer and the Assassin... and more
But some that i dislike are Blackguard, i think it should be a standard class and the true necromancer i think it's very disapointing
As for an Alchemist prestige class, i didn't find, i'll try. And to create prestige class, there're tips in the DM's guide (not very detailed) |
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Jalapeno
Acolyte
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Posted - 16 Mar 2003 : 11:46:55
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Mar 2003 : 12:29:13
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 WHAT ARE THESE THINGS????????????????????
 They changed so much with 3E . . . . Sometimes I think I need to buy the whole library just to follow what some of you are talking about!!!!!    |
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Artalis
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 16 Mar 2003 : 14:05:23
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I am somewhat new to 3rd edition and am not familiar with the prestige classes really.
I am curious though I was thinking about converting Nighteyes to 3rd edition.. Is there a Bladesinger class/prestige class? |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 16 Mar 2003 : 14:36:46
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In the canon products the bladesinger as you know it doesn't exist. There the sword dancer but restricted to the followers of Eilistraee. But wait for Races of Faerun i think they'll put it in.
Quick explanation of what a prestige class is:
You begin you adventurer career with one og the standard class (Fighter, wizard, rogue,...) Once you meet the requirements of a prestige class (Feats, Skills, ...) you can take the prestige class. So you'll be for example Rogue 6/Sorceror 1/Assassin 5
It's a 12 level character. Do you understand? |
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Artalis
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 16 Mar 2003 : 14:51:20
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That sounds kind of broken... Maybe I don't understand it correctly.
So once you meet the requirements of the Prestige Class. You take it and it grants you the abilities associated with the prestige class. (this includes levels in other classes?) |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 16 Mar 2003 : 15:20:00
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Maybe i didn't explain correctly...
When you meet the requirements, you are allowed to multiclass with the prestige class.
Is that clearer now? |
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Artalis
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 16 Mar 2003 : 16:38:19
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| Ok so where do I find out the scoop on these prestige classes. I don't remember where they are. FRCS? DMG? PH? or what? |
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Drummer Boy
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Posted - 16 Mar 2003 : 18:04:45
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Originally posted by Artalis
Ok so where do I find out the scoop on these prestige classes. I don't remember where they are. FRCS? DMG? PH? or what?
They have some in the Dungeon Master's Guide, the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, and Faiths and Pantheons, but you can always create your own prestige class, as long as it's well thought-out, not unbalancing in your campaign, and you have the DM's permission. |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 16 Mar 2003 : 21:38:04
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| Actually, every D20 book that is released contains prestige class. IMO much are unbalanced, i definetly keep wotc products (T&B, S&S, MoW, LoD, DoF, ...) |
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Artalis
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 16 Mar 2003 : 22:52:19
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I found the Bladesinger Prestige Class in Tome & Blood on pages 49 and 50. How does this work? For example Nighteyes is a 18th level warrior and 19th level mage with the Bladesinger Kit in second edition.
But if I understand the prestige classes correctly you don't earn levels as a mage or warrior anymore but as your new prestige class.
So If I try to convert him he is going to loose his higher level spells (above 4th lvl).
Somebody help me out here....
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Edited by - Artalis on 16 Mar 2003 22:53:30 |
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Salius Kai
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 01:40:55
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Thank you all for your help reguarding the alchemist class. I'll have to look into it.
Unfortunitly, Artalis, I'm not sure how they work. I know I'm not a big help, but mabey another scribe could help us out. |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 09:10:01
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Originally posted by Artalis
I found the Bladesinger Prestige Class in Tome & Blood on pages 49 and 50. How does this work? For example Nighteyes is a 18th level warrior and 19th level mage with the Bladesinger Kit in second edition.
But if I understand the prestige classes correctly you don't earn levels as a mage or warrior anymore but as your new prestige class.
So If I try to convert him he is going to loose his higher level spells (above 4th lvl).
Somebody help me out here....
I didn't see it...
It means that Nighteyes must be able to cast 1st level arcane spells at least, but he has a greater level in an arcane class (here wizard) he'll retain all his spells from that class PLUS the ones provided by the prestige class.
In your case, you'll choose to give Nighteyes x levels in Fighter and x levels in wizard. Then when you meet the requirements you can take the prestige class.
I'll work on it tonight if you agree, i'll convert it for you if you want. But you can also look for the conversion guide that wotc released (it's free) |
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Artalis
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 13:18:05
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Ok I get the general idea.
Wow zemd, that is a generous offer indeed thank you.
If you have the time to spare and actually feel like doing it go ahead.
I guess that I would have to go with 16th lvl warrior and 18th lvl wizard with the extra 3 levels going into Bladesinger. Otherwise he would lose his 9th lvl spells and he has already cast Wish a few times and I don't want to rewrite campaign history as it were.
In third edition this makes him a 37th lvl character (heh)
The only problem is that in his history I have him training as a bladesinger in his youth which was over 300 years ago. GRRRR
I guess this is one of those situations where the old cant really be converted to the new without rewriting history as it were.....
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AraznBlair
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 15:54:45
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Originally posted by zemd
But you can also look for the conversion guide that wotc released (it's free)
zemb, where is that conversion guide exactly. I have a 2E Fighter/Mage (Arazn Blair with states located in the Hall of Hero's) that I would like to convert into 3E. If you could show me in the right direction I would appreciate it. |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 16:24:30
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Originally posted by AraznBlair
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zemb, where is that conversion guide exactly.
zemb, who is zemb? Well since i know the answer, i can answer: you can download it here 
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AraznBlair
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 16:36:53
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| zemd, I'm sorry about that. I was typing to fast and was not paying attention. Please allow me to buy you a drink to make up for my mistake. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 17:12:35
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Zemd, you double-posted! Shame on you!
I guess now we all know how you got to be a Learned Scribe!  j/k |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
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Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 19:06:09
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I was in class and i had two ie windows open... so when i posted one and i saw the reply formular still on the screen, i thought i didn't post it...
Still, shame on me 
But i sware it's the first time i do such thing  |
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Artalis
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 21:53:14
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I am not impressed with the conversion process as I see it in the booklet.
According to these rules I have to take Nighteyes 19 lvl Wizard and 18 lvl Warrior down to 25 levels total.
Now in 3rd edition a wizard gains the ability to cast 9th lvl spells at 17th level. So he has to be at least 17th lvl mage. Which leaves 8 levels to split between Warrior and Bladesinger. Which is not an even split by any means. Nighteyes has always taken great care to balance his studies so now here I am twisting the character around to fit the rules. 
so 17th level wizard and 8th lvl Bladesinger? That is so off, to my way of thinking. Though maybe it's not so bad...
Hmmm now I have to figure out what to do about his psionics? |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 22:00:56
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| You'll have to look in the psionic handbook... I can't help you i didn't buy it. I only have the 2nd edition book |
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Artalis
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 03:29:32
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Is it permissible to multiclass in prestige classes?
Say like oh..Archmage/Bladesinger? |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 06:23:50
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quote:
Originally posted by Artalis
Is it permissible to multiclass in prestige classes?
Say like oh..Archmage/Bladesinger?
If you meet the prerequestique, yes |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 08:40:40
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Boy, I don't think I want to mess with an Archsinger. Or would that be Blademage?  |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 10:59:31
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
Boy, I don't think I want to mess with an Archsinger. Or would that be Blademage?
Since a bladesinger is a kind of Figther/Wizard Blademage isn't very original, but a Archsinger is a cool name |
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 15:45:41
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Originally posted by zemd
Blademage isn't very original...
I'm insulted! See if I ever talk to you again.  j/k |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
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Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 16:41:53
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Originally posted by zemd
[quote]but a Archsinger is a cool name
You didn't read until the end!!! |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 17:12:59
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| Yes I did -- I was just teasing you. (I do that sort of thing a lot! ) |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 20 Mar 2003 : 17:16:44
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
I was just teasing you.
I knew it! And hopefully you were teasing me, or i would be very disapointed by your way of thinking |
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Artalis
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 21 Mar 2003 : 04:13:43
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Ok zemd, here's a challenge for you...
At what level/s can a sun elf Fighter/Wizard become a Bladesinger providing that his initial character feat is Ambidexterity? Assuming that all feats will be dedicated to that purpose.
And another question: If you take the prestige class (say bladesinger for arguments sake ) can you continue on in one of your original classes? Becoming, in this case, a Bladesinger/Wizard? |
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