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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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 Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 09:14:40
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Amazon have listed the following WOTC titles for the 4th Quarter
And there isnt a single realms book listed.....
September:
Faiths of Eberron
Dragon Magic
Dungeons & Dragons Basic Game 2006
October:
Expedition to Castle Ravenloft
Complete Mage
November:
Dragonmarked
Cityscape
D&d Minatures Blood War
December:
Fiendish Codex II : Tyrants of the Nine Hells
Needless to say Im not impressed
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 09:53:30
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That is more than a bit worrying...
EDIT: It is, however, possible that a December release (as seemed slated) just hasn't been added yet... |
Edited by - Arivia on 27 Mar 2006 10:17:27 |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 10:35:39
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Originally posted by Arivia
That is more than a bit worrying...
EDIT: It is, however, possible that a December release (as seemed slated) just hasn't been added yet...
Im pretty sure every 3ed FR source book that has come out 4th quarter has been released in either October or November, never December |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 10:41:55
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Im pretty sure every 3ed FR source book that has come out 4th quarter has been released in either October or November, never December
Maybe. Last year, both lines(Eberron and the Realms) had two months in a row where a supplement was released. Spacing that out this year seemingly suggests a December Realms supplement, especially as the vogue seems to be having a Realms supplement within a month of an Eberron one. Hence, we could very well have an unannounced Q4 Realms supplement behind Dragonmarked. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 13:28:46
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Originally posted by warlockco
Complete Mage?!? Didn't Complete Arcane cover Arcane Magic for them?
According to Ari Marmell(one of the book's designers) on the wizards.com boards, Complete Mage is a supplement to Complete Arcane. The general conjecture is that it will actually focus on stuff for arcane spellcasting classes, instead of giving other classes arcane powers(such as the green star adept). |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 14:40:14
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I don't think this listing is that complete nor definitive... especially at this point in the year. And as I recall... Keith Baker recently stated he was still at work on another EB tome (not the aforementioned Faiths of Eberron) that had yet to be finalised. And that's not listed...
Besides... we know Ed is currently deep in one of his "peak crafting Realmslore periods" at the moment... working on projects we know little about as yet. It's entirely possible that Ed could be working on a new FR tome for release in the 4th quarter of the year but it's details are still to come...
I wouldn't get to worried about this now... If we'd learned that there were no FR tomes due for release in the 4th quarter WotC products during June/July... then I'd start to worry. As it is... we'll probably learn more in the coming months.
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 17:28:59
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Agrees with Sage,
Isn't it a little early for a full 4th quarter list? It's only the 3rd month into the year. Give it time. |
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Kaysae
Acolyte
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Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 21:43:31
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| The 2006 complete D&D product list on the WOTC site only goes up to August at this point. I'm sure there is more to come as the Amazon list hardly looks complete, especially for December. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 22:00:40
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Originally posted by The Sage
I don't think this listing is that complete nor definitive... especially at this point in the year. And as I recall... Keith Baker recently stated he was still at work on another EB tome (not the aforementioned Faiths of Eberron) that had yet to be finalised. And that's not listed...
IIRC, that's Dragonmarked; I know Keith is at least doing Ghallanda for it. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2006 : 01:53:00
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Originally posted by Arivia
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
I don't think this listing is that complete nor definitive... especially at this point in the year. And as I recall... Keith Baker recently stated he was still at work on another EB tome (not the aforementioned Faiths of Eberron) that had yet to be finalised. And that's not listed...
IIRC, that's Dragonmarked; I know Keith is at least doing Ghallanda for it.
No... Dragonmarked only has contributing sections by Keith. This new sourcebook he's been talking about is only written by him and another game designer (I can't recall who).
Besides... he also said nothing else has been mentioned about this "new book" as yet. We know a little about Dragonmarked already.
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Edited by - The Sage on 28 Mar 2006 01:53:53 |
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Lord Nemes
Seeker
Canada
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Posted - 06 May 2006 : 02:14:57
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I went to the bookstore yesterday to take my copy of The Ruin and City of Splendor and taked a look at the 2006 september-December catalog...
...Bad news no sourcebook in the fourth quarter, only the module "The Twilight Tomb"...
Too bad 2005 was an exception with 4 sourcebooks |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2006 : 02:31:09
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I still think it's a little too early to have an actual confirmed listing of what'll available for the Realms in the 4th quarter.
As I've said before... we know Ed's working on several "secret" projects at the moment. One of them could be an as yet undisclosed FR tome due for release in the 4th quarter.
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 06 May 2006 : 02:34:33
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| And we already weathed the whole "No more Realms" rumor a few months back, so even if there isn't a Realms sourcebook in the 4th quarter, it may be sad, but well see more in 2007. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2006 : 02:41:53
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Originally posted by Lord Nemes
I went to the bookstore yesterday to take my copy of The Ruin and City of Splendor and taked a look at the 2006 september-December catalog...
...Bad news no sourcebook in the fourth quarter, only the module "The Twilight Tomb"...
Too bad 2005 was an exception with 4 sourcebooks
Grrrrr
So where not even getting ONE regional source book this year!  |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2006 : 02:49:10
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| Well, we have the "concept" regional sourcebook in Mysteries of the Moonsea (thinking back in his youth to when bands put out concept albums . . . ) |
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Arivia
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 May 2006 : 03:05:42
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Well, we have the "concept" regional sourcebook in Mysteries of the Moonsea (thinking back in his youth to when bands put out concept albums . . . )
Wait, when did bands stop?
You have a PM, btw. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2006 : 03:08:03
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Well, we have the "concept" regional sourcebook in Mysteries of the Moonsea (thinking back in his youth to when bands put out concept albums . . . )
Mysteries of the Moonseas isnt a regional source book its book of short modules than can be linked together to make a campaign |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2006 : 03:12:22
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Oh wait, maybe they didn't . . . I just stopped buying albums . . . oh yeah!
As far as Mysteries of the Moonsea goes, I'm betting there is enough background to learn some new stuff in there as well, though I do hope that it doesn't mean that all new "regional" books will now be adventure anthologies first and foremost. |
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Lord Nemes
Seeker
Canada
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Posted - 06 May 2006 : 05:03:24
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It wasn't to be pesimist, just to state another source.
And just to make sure, I also don't think we are at the end of the realms.
Bye the way I can't wait to see what will be the next regional sourcebook...
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Brenigin
Learned Scribe
New Zealand
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Posted - 06 May 2006 : 07:28:36
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| If Fiendish Codex II is the only book listed for December release, then there must be more to be announced. No company would release only one product in the month before Christmas. |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
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Posted - 06 May 2006 : 10:21:04
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Originally posted by Lord Nemes
I went to the bookstore yesterday to take my copy of The Ruin and City of Splendor and taked a look at the 2006 september-December catalog...
...Bad news no sourcebook in the fourth quarter, only the module "The Twilight Tomb"...
Too bad 2005 was an exception with 4 sourcebooks
Well met
Hmmm, I haven't heard of this Twilight Tomb, of which ye speak, Lord Nemes. Tell me more. Is this Realms or core?
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Originally posted by Brenigin
If Fiendish Codex II is the only book listed for December release, then there must be more to be announced. No company would release only one product in the month before Christmas.
Indeed, Brenigin. I'm interested to see what WotC pull out of the hat for December. I doubt we'll see a FR regional sourcebook though, i'm sure we would have heard it by now. |
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 May 2006 : 11:01:20
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| Alaundo, I think the Twilight Tomb is the Realms adventure for the year, the one that was was to be called the Citadel of Glass. |
Life is either daring adventure or nothing. |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2006 : 14:07:31
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Originally posted by Brenigin
If Fiendish Codex II is the only book listed for December release, then there must be more to be announced. No company would release only one product in the month before Christmas.
Only in 2004 has WotC released more than one product in their roleplaying games line in December. |
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Bocklin
Learned Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 10 May 2006 : 09:32:04
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Well met
Ahh, thank ye Reefy. I wasn't aware the name had been changed.
Honourable Alaundo,
If you wish to learn more about this module, you could consult the second page of this thread:
http://www.candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6143
Speculations are that it would be linked to the Star Elves and Sildeyuir.
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Alaundo
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 12 May 2006 : 08:48:21
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Originally posted by Kuje
Agrees with Sage,
Isn't it a little early for a full 4th quarter list? It's only the 3rd month into the year. Give it time.
Well now its official Wizards have screwed the realms
http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?p=2820313&posted=1#post2820313
So thats ZERO Regional source books for the FR this year
Not happy wizards! |
“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”
Emperor Sigismund
"Its good to be the King!"
Mel Brooks |
Edited by - Dargoth on 12 May 2006 08:50:04 |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2006 : 09:18:14
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Well now its official Wizards have screwed the realms
http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?p=2820313&posted=1#post2820313
So thats ZERO Regional source books for the FR this year
Not happy wizards!
Oh well. Off that list, the only things that are guaranteed sales to me are The Twilight Tomb, Cityscape, and FCII; Dragon Magic and Complete Mage I'll wait for previews on before deciding.
EDIT: It's entirely possible setting support will be cyclical; Eberron received 3 products last year and is receiving 4 this year, while the Realms received 4 products last year and is receiving 3 this year.
EDIT2: Online copies of the catalogue are noting 160 pages for The Twilight Tomb; it may be a fourth product for the Realms this year with an adventure focus, or just a misprint. |
Edited by - Arivia on 12 May 2006 09:23:15 |
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Archwizard
Learned Scribe
USA
266 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2006 : 09:24:17
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While it's not a regional book, what about Dragons of Faerun? Maybe instead of looking at just regional books, we should consider what is the overall number of regional sized books (160 pages?) we're getting for the Realms. If that total is falling behind the average, then maybe we should start storming the gates of Wizards.
Though I am annoyed there's not even one regional book on the list so far. I think one regional book a year is a good standard to keep by. There are so many regions and so much to learn about each of them.
I know that part of the reason for Mysteries of the Moonsea's format is to avoid having to do lots of crunch, especially PrCs. Though perhaps someone should consider a less extreme alternative like taking a look at pre-existing PrCs from the core books (Complete, Races, Environment or even Eberron) and utilizing some of the ones that would fit well into FR. Instead of 4 or 5 original PrCs for each regional sourcebook like we usually get now, it could be maybe 1-2 new PrCs along with adaption rules for another handful from various sources with entirely Realms specific flavor material and perhaps substitution rules for them. Something along the lines of the Court Herald in Power of Faerun being based on the Loremaster. Or the Great Sea Corsair from Shining South being a slightly modified Dread Pirate. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 12 May 2006 : 09:24:21
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| I doubt your getting a 160 page FR adventure for 9.99 |
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Emperor Sigismund
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4th Quarter WOTC titles listed: NO REALMS BOOKS!
I had completely missed that before 
I'll get the product page on the site proper updated soon.