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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 19:54:13
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Thanks, Eric!
Well, given the proportions between chromatic, mettalic, and other species of dragons (like the gem dragons), I find that "a little bit" is something that satisfy me.
But be aware, heroes! The rare ancient amethist kineticist/psichic warrior dragon is something that make run away even heroes with the new powers of the Fat Old Dragonslayer Prestige Class |
Dwarf, DM, husband, and proud of this! :P
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Edited by - Chosen of Moradin on 21 Jul 2006 19:55:42 |
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EytanBernstein
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
704 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 00:55:47
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I think there is probably more psionics information in this book than most FR sourcebooks, though it's not a ton of material. We'll have to wait for the final cut to see exactly how much. |
http://eytanbernstein.com - the official website of Eytan Bernstein |
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Sanishiver
Senior Scribe
USA
476 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 05:35:48
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I'm going to have a blast with this book....literally.
(Jer's soon to be dead players----> )
But, keeping with lore, of course.
That said, I'm wonrdering how much the Draconomicon was used as a reference, and if the authors will be adding more game rules for Draconic abilities, feats, etc...
I've found I enjoy it most as a DM when I can take good rules and really use them to get my players hearts beating fast, especially with Dragons.
Also, is it too early to say if there'll be info on Dragons from the Stonelands?
Thankee in advance!
J. Grenemyer |
09/20/2008: Tiger Army at the Catalyst in Santa Cruz. You wouldn’t believe how many females rode it out in the pit. Santa Cruz women are all of them beautiful. Now I know to add tough to that description. 6/27/2008: WALL-E is about the best damn movie Pixar has ever made. It had my heart racing and had me rooting for the good guy. 9/9/2006: Dave Mathews Band was off the hook at the Shoreline Amphitheater.
Never, ever read the game books too literally, or make such assumptions that what is omitted cannot be. Bad DM form, that.
And no matter how compelling a picture string theory paints, if it does not accurately describe our universe, it will be no more relevant than an elaborate game of Dungeons and Dragons. --paragraph 1, chapter 9, The Elegant Universe by Brian Greene |
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EytanBernstein
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
704 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 08:25:30
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quote: Originally posted by Sanishiver
I'm going to have a blast with this book....literally.
(Jer's soon to be dead players----> )
But, keeping with lore, of course.
That said, I'm wonrdering how much the Draconomicon was used as a reference, and if the authors will be adding more game rules for Draconic abilities, feats, etc...
I've found I enjoy it most as a DM when I can take good rules and really use them to get my players hearts beating fast, especially with Dragons.
Also, is it too early to say if there'll be info on Dragons from the Stonelands?
Thankee in advance!
J. Grenemyer
Are you referring to the 3.5 Draconomicon? If that is the case, it's sort of an indirect thing. Richard Lee Byers used a lot of the creatures in that book in his trilogy. That did expand what sorts of dragons lived in the realms. We certainly did use that book as a resource, but we also used lots of 1E and 2E sources.
What sort of rules are you hoping for? If you want prestige classes and lots of feats, you might be a bit disappointed. Unless things have changed in editing, this certainly wasn't a major focus. There is a decent helping of monsters, traps, lair hazards, spells, magic items, full dragon statistics (like Nartheling), and adventures. The book is definitely more of a DM tool, but there is a good amount of spells and items that will be useful for players fighting dragons.
I can't really comment on specific regions. A lot of editing has taken place since last December when most of the writing was finished. Also, I tend to remember my own work more easily than that of others. |
http://eytanbernstein.com - the official website of Eytan Bernstein |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 13:33:01
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quote: Originally posted by EytanBernstein
I think there is probably more psionics information in this book than most FR sourcebooks, though it's not a ton of material. We'll have to wait for the final cut to see exactly how much.
Now, this have catch my attention! There is something more that you can say about the psionics information, or I´m crossing the dreadful NDA line? |
Dwarf, DM, husband, and proud of this! :P
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 14:51:43
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And another question just poped in my mind:
There is something that you can share with us about what will be stated about the Church of Tchazzar? I´m an old fan of this devious dragon, and in my campaign, he´s still alive, and want a little revenge against a certain five-headed goddess...
Chosen of Moradin, DM of a campaign in Waterdeep where some of the players are a neutral red wizard and a priest of Tchazzar. |
Dwarf, DM, husband, and proud of this! :P
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EytanBernstein
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
704 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 15:39:22
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quote: Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin
quote: Originally posted by EytanBernstein
I think there is probably more psionics information in this book than most FR sourcebooks, though it's not a ton of material. We'll have to wait for the final cut to see exactly how much.
Now, this have catch my attention! There is something more that you can say about the psionics information, or I´m crossing the dreadful NDA line?
I can't say much, but I can say that gem dragons are discussed in the book. |
http://eytanbernstein.com - the official website of Eytan Bernstein |
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EytanBernstein
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
704 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 15:40:33
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quote: Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin
And another question just poped in my mind:
There is something that you can share with us about what will be stated about the Church of Tchazzar? I´m an old fan of this devious dragon, and in my campaign, he´s still alive, and want a little revenge against a certain five-headed goddess...
Chosen of Moradin, DM of a campaign in Waterdeep where some of the players are a neutral red wizard and a priest of Tchazzar.
I think you'll be happy. I can't say any more than that. |
http://eytanbernstein.com - the official website of Eytan Bernstein |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2006 : 15:54:57
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Thanks, Eytan!
I will be expecting for this book! It´s a pity that probably I´ll see it here in Brazil only one or two months after the release... |
Dwarf, DM, husband, and proud of this! :P
twitter: @yuripeixoto Facebook: yuri.peixoto |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jul 2006 : 02:01:41
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Does Dragons of Faerun provide any info on the sale of Dragon eggs in Dwarven Town of Glen in Mistledale?
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“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”
Emperor Sigismund
"Its good to be the King!"
Mel Brooks |
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Sanishiver
Senior Scribe
USA
476 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jul 2006 : 02:18:24
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quote: Originally posted by EytanBernstein
Are you referring to the 3.5 Draconomicon?
Aye, that’s the book I had in mind. Glad to see it was used as a resource...lots’ of good stuff for DMs in that book.
quote: Originally posted by EytanBernstein
What sort of rules are you hoping for? If you want prestige classes and lots of feats, you might be a bit disappointed. ... There is a decent helping of monsters, traps, lair hazards, spells, magic items, full dragon statistics (like Nartheling), and adventures. The book is definitely more of a DM tool, but there is a good amount of spells and items that will be useful for players fighting dragons.
I’m not interested in Prestige Classes really; more interested in feats or new rules that can be applied to Dragons. All the better if such new mechanics fit the lore in some way or another. I’m very glad to see lair hazards, spells and magic items included.
Curious, are the adventures spread out? That is, stuff for low, mid, high, very high and Epic Level play?
quote: Originally posted by EytanBernstein
I can't really comment on specific regions.
Well I appreciate your taking the time to answer all the same. And besides, if there’s little or no info on Dragons from the Stonelands, I can always adapt something else from the book.
Thank you!
J. Grenemyer |
09/20/2008: Tiger Army at the Catalyst in Santa Cruz. You wouldn’t believe how many females rode it out in the pit. Santa Cruz women are all of them beautiful. Now I know to add tough to that description. 6/27/2008: WALL-E is about the best damn movie Pixar has ever made. It had my heart racing and had me rooting for the good guy. 9/9/2006: Dave Mathews Band was off the hook at the Shoreline Amphitheater.
Never, ever read the game books too literally, or make such assumptions that what is omitted cannot be. Bad DM form, that.
And no matter how compelling a picture string theory paints, if it does not accurately describe our universe, it will be no more relevant than an elaborate game of Dungeons and Dragons. --paragraph 1, chapter 9, The Elegant Universe by Brian Greene |
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EytanBernstein
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
704 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jul 2006 : 07:08:57
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quote: Originally posted by Dargoth
Does Dragons of Faerun provide any info on the sale of Dragon eggs in Dwarven Town of Glen in Mistledale?
I don't recall anything about that, but it has been a while. |
http://eytanbernstein.com - the official website of Eytan Bernstein |
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EytanBernstein
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
704 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jul 2006 : 07:14:10
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quote: Originally posted by Sanishiver
quote: Originally posted by EytanBernstein
Are you referring to the 3.5 Draconomicon?
Aye, that’s the book I had in mind. Glad to see it was used as a resource...lots’ of good stuff for DMs in that book.
quote: Originally posted by EytanBernstein
What sort of rules are you hoping for? If you want prestige classes and lots of feats, you might be a bit disappointed. ... There is a decent helping of monsters, traps, lair hazards, spells, magic items, full dragon statistics (like Nartheling), and adventures. The book is definitely more of a DM tool, but there is a good amount of spells and items that will be useful for players fighting dragons.
I’m not interested in Prestige Classes really; more interested in feats or new rules that can be applied to Dragons. All the better if such new mechanics fit the lore in some way or another. I’m very glad to see lair hazards, spells and magic items included.
Curious, are the adventures spread out? That is, stuff for low, mid, high, very high and Epic Level play?
quote: Originally posted by EytanBernstein
I can't really comment on specific regions.
Well I appreciate your taking the time to answer all the same. And besides, if there’s little or no info on Dragons from the Stonelands, I can always adapt something else from the book.
Thank you!
J. Grenemyer
For the most part, all new crunch supports the stories of the individual dragons and draconic groups of Faerun (with a decent amount geared towards fighting them as well). Not a ton of feats really, though a few should make it in there (exact numbers unknown).
There are two adventures in the book - one at mid levels related to the Cult of the Dragon and one a high levels (but not epic) related to Tiamat. As mentioned, Eric has an adventure that could have been in the book, but will make an excellent Web Enhancement. For more info on that, check out Dragon Magazine for a preview. Between those three adventures, there should be coverage for characters from 5th-13th, though the range is easily expanded by using the scaling suggestions. |
http://eytanbernstein.com - the official website of Eytan Bernstein |
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Sanishiver
Senior Scribe
USA
476 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2006 : 23:06:44
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Right on!
Thank you!
J. Grenemyer |
09/20/2008: Tiger Army at the Catalyst in Santa Cruz. You wouldn’t believe how many females rode it out in the pit. Santa Cruz women are all of them beautiful. Now I know to add tough to that description. 6/27/2008: WALL-E is about the best damn movie Pixar has ever made. It had my heart racing and had me rooting for the good guy. 9/9/2006: Dave Mathews Band was off the hook at the Shoreline Amphitheater.
Never, ever read the game books too literally, or make such assumptions that what is omitted cannot be. Bad DM form, that.
And no matter how compelling a picture string theory paints, if it does not accurately describe our universe, it will be no more relevant than an elaborate game of Dungeons and Dragons. --paragraph 1, chapter 9, The Elegant Universe by Brian Greene |
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EytanBernstein
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
704 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2006 : 23:20:59
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I finally have a copy (three actually) and this book is pretty. Eric deserves a lot of credit for some very impressive parts of the book. |
http://eytanbernstein.com - the official website of Eytan Bernstein |
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Dhomal
Senior Scribe
USA
565 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2006 : 05:08:02
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Hello-
Table of contents released on the Wizards site:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20060726a
Dhomal |
I am collecting the D&D Minis. I would be more than willing to trade with people. You can send me a PM here with your email listed - and I can send you my minis list. Thanks!
Successfully traded with Xysma! |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6662 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2006 : 06:40:56
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Looks like a good line-up to me.
-- George Krashos
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"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2006 : 07:14:56
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I'll second Krash.
I wasn't too excited when I heard about this book at first - but it seems like the authors (with the ever-talented and lore-filled Mr. Boyd, and the up-and-coming Mr. Bernstein) put a lot of work into detailing the history, the lore... Well, everything that makes FR, FR.
Good job, guys. Maybe I'll have to pick this one up with Christmas or Birthday money or.. er.. Something. :) |
Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me "That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2006 : 14:02:56
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And I´m echoing GothicDan and George comments! I´m very happy to see Tchazzar in the list of the realms dragons (and a good amount of pages about his church)! Thanks, Mr. Boyd and Mr. Bernstein.
Chosen of Moradin, waiting the arrival of a certain draconic book in the brazilian shores |
Dwarf, DM, husband, and proud of this! :P
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
2067 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2006 : 14:12:06
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quote: Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin
And I´m echoing GothicDan and George comments! I´m very happy to see Tchazzar in the list of the realms dragons (and a good amount of pages about his church)!
So the interesting thing about the FRCS that I nevered noticed until writing this book was that the two dragons Tchazzar devoured in Powers & Pantheons had returned. This inspired some fiendish thoughts ...
--Eric |
-- http://www.ericlboyd.com/dnd/ |
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
2067 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2006 : 14:20:10
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quote: Originally posted by EytanBernstein
I finally have a copy (three actually) and this book is pretty. Eric deserves a lot of credit for some very impressive parts of the book.
As does Eytan. He really captured the Realms "feel", IMHO.
--Eric |
-- http://www.ericlboyd.com/dnd/ |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2006 : 14:22:16
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quote: Originally posted by ericlboyd
So the interesting thing about the FRCS that I nevered noticed until writing this book was that the two dragons Tchazzar devoured in Powers & Pantheons had returned. This inspired some fiendish thoughts ...
--Eric
Now I´m feeling literally teased!
Chosen of Moradin, rearranging his priorities and sparing some cash to pre-order this book |
Dwarf, DM, husband, and proud of this! :P
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 05:46:10
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After reading through the Table of Contents, I am SO FREAKING READY for this book to come out. This just looks awesome.
(No, its not the most eloquent way to voice my enthusiasm, but the if the table of contents is any indication, this book is exactly what I wanted it to be . . . I really am excited to get my hands on it) |
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 12:52:48
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15-page dragon list!quote: Originally posted by ericlboyd As does Eytan. He really captured the Realms "feel", IMHO.
I hope so! I think it's mostly a matter of temperament which authors do. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36798 Posts |
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
2067 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 18:18:19
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by Faraer
15-page dragon list!
Yeah, I was noting that, too. I guess we'll have to update the FR dragon database...
Don't rush to do that quite yet.
--Eric |
-- http://www.ericlboyd.com/dnd/ |
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EytanBernstein
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
704 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 04:46:24
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quote: Originally posted by ericlboyd
quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by Faraer
15-page dragon list!
Yeah, I was noting that, too. I guess we'll have to update the FR dragon database...
Don't rush to do that quite yet.
--Eric
Yea. There are a lot of tie-in articles and Web Enhancements planned in relation to the book as well. |
http://eytanbernstein.com - the official website of Eytan Bernstein |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 05:14:56
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If your taking requests for DoF WE content how about doing Faerunian write ups for the Dragon deities and their churches |
“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”
Emperor Sigismund
"Its good to be the King!"
Mel Brooks |
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EytanBernstein
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
704 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 09:09:33
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quote: Originally posted by Dargoth
If your taking requests for DoF WE content how about doing Faerunian write ups for the Dragon deities and their churches
That is certainly a strong possibility, considering that some of that material didn't make it into the book. |
http://eytanbernstein.com - the official website of Eytan Bernstein |
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Snotlord
Senior Scribe
Norway
476 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 15:30:05
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What about Year of Rogue Dragons events in Cormyr and the Western Heartlands? I've stalled my Cormyr campaign for this book, and I'm hoping for an updated timeline and lots of adventure ideas and possibilities.
Preferably for epic level characters |
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