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Jhoebryn
Acolyte
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 Posted - 19 Jan 2006 : 00:39:32
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I have purchased the first parts of the Sembia series of books and have worked my way slowly through them. I planned on buying them as I went along. After reading a couple of other threads, I see that "Black Wolf" may be a bit tough to come by. I find this rather frustrating. How can a company like WotC discontinue a book within a series while the rest of the series is available. Also, this book is no more than 4 years old, a rather short life span for a novel before it is no longer available. So now I have read up to a particular spot in a series of books without the ability to finish the series.
((Note: the Kingpriest Trilogy in Dragonlance is also no longer available for purchase. I understand it was a fantastic trilogy.))
Does anyone here know why the book is no longer available? Any ideas on whether it will be printed again?
((Sorry - I hate sounding negative, but as a fan, I expect WotC to keep these items available for a reasonable amount of time. I don't appreciate having to shell out $40 for a paperback))
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darkcrow
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 19 Jan 2006 : 05:40:36
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| You don't have to shell out that much money. About a year and a half ago I read my first Forgotten Realms book ( Making of a Mage) and I instantly fell in love. After I finished the book, I decided I wanted them ALL. Thanks to OLOVE's site, I was able to get a list of everything that ever came out for Forgotten Realms. I went on ebay and started buying up all the out of print books for cheap. But you have to buy them in like lots of 3 or more. The bigger the lot, the cheaper your going to get for each book. Of course as your collection starts to become complete, you start getting books you all ready got. So you collect anough doubles to make a healthy lot of your own and sell it back on ebay. So its buy and sell, buy and sell until your collection is complete. Of course if you just want the one book, try looking one half.com |
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SheriffJoe
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 19 Jan 2006 : 16:18:38
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Jhoebryn, I am much in the same boat as you are in. Having come late to this world and others (Legend of the Five Rings, Dragonlance, Dark Sun, Ravenloft, you name it), I find it disturbing that I can purchase 6 of 7 books in a series inexpensively, and book number 5 (for example) would cost, in one case, $100 for a used paperback!!!! This is absolutely ridiculously absurd! However, I have been blessed and lucky and fortunate enough to speak with authors who not only have extra copies of their books that they are willing to give or sell to their fans, but in the case of authors selling them, they do so in a most professional manner, without a desire to gouge their fans, for which I am grateful! I have heard about the Kingpriest Trilogy and, in fact, it is recommended at the back of Amber and Iron as a series to read to gather more information. Alas, books one and two are out of print and one is going for $20 if you can find it.
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Dremvek
Seeker
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Posted - 19 Jan 2006 : 16:42:37
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I use www.bookfinder.com to find out of print books. I did a quick lookup on there, and Black Wolf is available used for $4.50. Also, Amazon.com has new copies available from their 3rd party sellers starting at $4.18. Amazon also has all 3 books in the Kingpriest trilogy for just a little over $4 a piece - new.
On the other hand, I agree completely. It's frustrating that a 4 year old book is already out of print and extremely hard to find. Unfortunately, it seems this is a result of WOTC's efforts to republish "older" titles - they can't do a rerelease with the old stuff still available! Of course, this could just be my inner conspiracy theorist coming out as well...... |
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Jhoebryn
Acolyte
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Posted - 19 Jan 2006 : 17:32:04
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| I'm not too worried about tracking the books down. I actually found Black Wolf and Books 1 and 2 of the Kingpriest Trilogy new on the Borders bookshelf last night (it required three different Borders in 2 different states to find them). It is the principle that bothers me. If I had not seen that these books were getting hard to locate, I would have just gone about my reading as I was, and then tried to find them when I got to them. I would then be sadly disappointed. It's as if you need to keep up on what is hard to find and get it while you can so that you don't run the risk of not getting it when you want it (video games are this way now). It's a trend I don't like. |
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Beezy
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 19 Jan 2006 : 17:50:32
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| I got Black wolf off of Half.com for like $3. It was the Double Diamobd Triangle books that were costly. I could get book 1-6 for cheap on ebay but the last three books cost like $15-20 each off Amazon used or on ebay for quite a bit but I just keep doing ebay searchs a couple of times a week and finally found them at a decent price. |
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Thrasymachus
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 19 Jan 2006 : 22:20:36
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I have to agree with Jhoebryn's sentiment. Wizards points to the Sembia Series novels as the starting point, while they aren't available new.
These links to acquiring the books cheap are great. Thank you, and please keep them coming.  |
Former Forgotten Realms brand manager Jim Butler: "Everything that bears the Forgotten Realms logo is considered canon". |
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SheriffJoe
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 20 Jan 2006 : 18:15:16
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I was also alerted to a great site: http://www.fetchbook.info/
It allows you to not only search by title, but by author and ISBN as well.
SheriffJoe |
Edited by - SheriffJoe on 20 Jan 2006 18:15:53 |
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Dremvek
Seeker
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Posted - 22 Jan 2006 : 20:44:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Thrasymachus
I have to agree with Jhoebryn's sentiment. Wizards points to the Sembia Series novels as the starting point, while they aren't available new.
This is the most frustrating thing to me - they have their novel reading guide on their site, but don't make any mention as to which books are out of print. I spent 2 years assembling all of my collection, and this gets harder all of the time, but Wizards still lists these as "must read" books, but provides no hints or help as to how to get them. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 22 Jan 2006 : 21:02:42
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Originally posted by Dremvek
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Originally posted by Thrasymachus
I have to agree with Jhoebryn's sentiment. Wizards points to the Sembia Series novels as the starting point, while they aren't available new.
This is the most frustrating thing to me - they have their novel reading guide on their site, but don't make any mention as to which books are out of print. I spent 2 years assembling all of my collection, and this gets harder all of the time, but Wizards still lists these as "must read" books, but provides no hints or help as to how to get them.
This kind of thing isn't limited to just the novels... I recall, years back, finding multiple references to FR4 The Magister -- even after it was out of print, newer products kept referencing it. White Wolf did the same thing with one of the Vampire products, making references to it years after it was out of print.
Back on topic, from what I've seen, the Sembia series is a very popular one. And they do call them a must read. But do they reprint them? Nope, they reprint older trilogies that aren't must reads -- like the Twilight Giants or the Moonshae trilogies. Maybe there's some grand marketing scheme at play here, but I don't see it... |
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stanthony
Acolyte
Estonia
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Posted - 02 Feb 2006 : 22:28:12
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Hello everyone!
It's my first post here, but I decided not to start the new thread, as my question somewhat relates to the topic discussed in this one.
I started reading FR novels. I read The City of Splendors and started with the Sembia series. I bought The Halls of Stormweather and quite liked it, so I'm looking forward to read the sequels. However, as some people here, I found the Black Wolf and another one from the series (don't remember which one) very hard to find. With the average book price of 5 pounds, there is no way I am paying 30 quid for the pre-owned one on the amazon.co.uk. I hope I will be able to find those two occasionally, but for now I have a question: is it really crucial that I read the Sembia novels in their proper order, or I could skip at least the woolfy one? :) Is reading the Black Wolf critical to the understanding of the whole series? From the first volume I got the impression that every sequel should be more or less independent novel in its own right. Is that so?
Thank you very much for you advice :) |
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