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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe
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 Posted - 21 Dec 2005 : 18:32:12
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The Knights of the Black Gauntlet are said to be the order of Banite Knights that took the City of Mintar. I was wondering if there was any lore out there that has information on this Knightly Order that I may not have seen.
Also, I am making an effort to find/create as many options for characters in the Black Network as possible.
So Far I have...
Zhentarim Spy (Players Guide to Faerun p. 77)
Zhentarim Sky Mage (Lords of Darkness p. 102)
Dreadmaster (Faiths and Pantheons p. 188)
Arcane Devotee of Bane (Players Guide to Faerun p. 48)
Divine Champion of Bane (Players Guide to Faerun p. 49)
Divine Disciple of Bane (Players Guide to Faerun p. 51)
Divine Seeker of Bane (Players Guide to Faerun p. 52)
Monk of the Iron Gauntlet (http://candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5485)
Those are the ones that to me scream "Black Network". Other PrC's could obviously fit such as Blackguard, Assassin, Archmage, and many many others. But whant I'm really looking for are Prestige Classes specifically for the Church of Bane or the Zhentarim. (home-made Prestige Classes are welcome)
Thanks in advance.
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Edited by - Chosen of Bane on 21 Dec 2005 22:05:30
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 21 Dec 2005 : 21:11:11
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kinda screams Bane, because he is the god of Tyranny. Paladin of Tyranny from Unearthed Arcana. Of course, I'd change the disease touch to something more tyrannical.
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Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 21 Dec 2005 : 22:02:43
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Originally posted by sleyvas
kinda screams Bane, because he is the god of Tyranny. Paladin of Tyranny from Unearthed Arcana. Of course, I'd change the disease touch to something more tyrannical.
That is an excellent idea. What do you suggest for a change from Disease Touch? Maybe a frightful presence ability? |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 21 Dec 2005 : 22:59:57
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| One of my half finished pet projects is a Knights of the Black Gauntlet class, it was based on the Paladin class |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 21 Dec 2005 : 23:05:14
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| Hmmm, no, Tyrants are all about controlling people... usually through fear and bullying, but in a world of magic... sometimes simply seizing control no matter what. I'm thinking an equivalent 3rd lvl spell to contagion and remove disease. Something like maybe suggestion or lesser geas. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 22 Dec 2005 : 00:25:53
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Originally posted by Dargoth
One of my half finished pet projects is a Knights of the Black Gauntlet class, it was based on the Paladin class
So Dargoth, you're thinking more along the lines of a base class than a prestige class? Is it similar to the Paladin of Tyranny in the Unearthed Arcana.
Any chance I can view your half finished project?
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Originally posted by sleyvas
Hmmm, no, Tyrants are all about controlling people... usually through fear and bullying, but in a world of magic... sometimes simply seizing control no matter what. I'm thinking an equivalent 3rd lvl spell to contagion and remove disease. Something like maybe suggestion or lesser geas.
Suggestion is a good call. The fact that it's an Arcane Spell instead of a Divine Spell bothers me a little but it definitely fits Bane's portfolio. I suggested Frightful Presence because it's a ability of both the Dreadmaster PrC and the Initiate of Bane feat. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 22 Dec 2005 : 01:16:06
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Sure
Ill trade you for your Monk of the Black Gauntlet PrC! 
My Knight of the Black gauntlet class was eventually rolled into another as yet unfinished project, the Champion or Crusader Class which is a merging of he Paladin class and the Divine champion PrC
As for a suitable 3rd level spell how about one of the following
Disern Lies, Dolorous Blow or Mystic Lash
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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe
USA
552 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2005 : 03:12:00
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Orininally posted by Dargoth
Ill trade you for your Monk of the Black Gauntlet PrC!
Alright, sounds like a fair trade. My Order of the Iron Gauntlet PrC is already posted in these halls. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 22 Dec 2005 : 03:54:19
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Originally posted by Chosen of Bane
quote:
Orininally posted by Dargoth
Ill trade you for your Monk of the Black Gauntlet PrC!
Alright, sounds like a fair trade. My Order of the Iron Gauntlet PrC is already posted in these halls.
Its in a Table so Ill have to email it to you
Whats your address? |
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Alaundo
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 22 Dec 2005 : 09:07:08
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Well met
Dargoth\Chosen of Bane... please take this to PM, thank ye 
Already done |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 23 Dec 2005 : 20:00:32
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>>>As for a suitable 3rd level spell how about one of the following
>>> Disern Lies, Dolorous Blow or Mystic Lash
Mystic Lash... yeah, that's definitely a spell for putting the masses in their place. Definitely screams Banite as well. Comparing it to other 3rd lvl spells though, it can do up to 4d6+ char. mod. electric dmg per round on its own for 1 rnd/lvl plus chance of stunning. This should be a spell that requires a feat to get it.
Also, the paladin's ability to remove disease (which this should be compared to) isn't all that useful. Similar should be this spell. I like the idea of discern lies. Another good one would be Know Greatest Enemy (a blackguard spell). Banites definitely are a group that would target the leader in order to cow the masses.
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Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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Prince Indirian
Acolyte
Sweden
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Posted - 25 Dec 2005 : 04:47:54
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| Make them into a substitition class. Like they did in Herous of Valor. The Gauntlets that is. |
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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 25 Dec 2005 : 05:03:41
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Originally posted by Prince Indirian
Make them into a substitition class. Like they did in Herous of Valor. The Gauntlets that is.
This is actually probably the best option because it is unlikely that an entire order of Knights would be high enough level to take a PrC and with substitution levels they can make themselves unique at level 1.
But I kind of like Prestige Classes so if it's something I try to create myself I would likely go with a PrC. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 26 Dec 2005 : 00:06:23
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Hey Chosen of Bane
I finished the Crusader Class (The Project that the Knight of the Black Gauntlet evolved into) do you want to take a look at it?
Im sending it around to interested Candlekeep scribes for comment before I submit it to Alaundo. |
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Knight of the Black Gauntlet (and other Banites)
