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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 17 Nov 2005 :  22:12:38  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
On Amazon right now, they have listed Dragons of Faerun as coming out August 8th, 2006. Hm . . .

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0786939230/qid=1132265225/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i4_xgl14/102-7699304-3896121?v=glance&s=books&n=507846


Hm . . . making the likelihood of regional sourcebooks much less so . . .

Edited by - KnightErrantJR on 17 Nov 2005 22:17:56

hooper101
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Posted - 17 Nov 2005 :  22:45:47  Show Profile  Visit hooper101's Homepage Send hooper101 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks knight! Always like updates

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warlockco
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Posted - 17 Nov 2005 :  22:49:07  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wonder what this will be about, sounds interesting though.

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jameslt0
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Posted - 17 Nov 2005 :  23:41:20  Show Profile  Visit jameslt0's Homepage Send jameslt0 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That is weird, no author(s) listed yet.

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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  00:08:16  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey, maybe Klauth will finally make his stage debut - I hear he has a mean barti....

(Crennen has now been eaten by the Ancient Red Dragon)


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The Sage
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  00:57:10  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And with my additions for Wyrms of the East here at Candlekeep, I've got extra incentive now to keep the articles going until mid-next year. Neato .

quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Hm . . . making the likelihood of regional sourcebooks much less so . . .
Not necessarily.

SK focused on the lesser scaly-folk, but it also detailed several of their more prominent realms. While dragons in the Realms don't actually rule cities, or towns, or kingdoms... they do occupy some rather varied geographical regions. This might be the perfect opportunity for us to learn more about the areas these dragons call kip!

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warlockco
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  01:03:30  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

And with my additions for Wyrms of the East here at Candlekeep, I've got extra incentive now to keep the articles going until mid-next year. Neato .

quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Hm . . . making the likelihood of regional sourcebooks much less so . . .
Not necessarily.

SK focused on the lesser scaly-folk, but it also detailed several of their more prominent realms. While dragons in the Realms don't actually rule cities, or towns, or kingdoms... they do occupy some rather varied geographical regions. This might be the perfect opportunity for us to learn more about the areas these dragons call kip!




I can think of at least One Kingdom that is ruled by a Dragon. Though he currently does have some problems of his own at the moment.

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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  02:14:33  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I hope they do remember to include Shadow Dragons, as they are one of the coolest FR dragon races. That at Mercury Dragons - let's hope they make it in as well.

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warlockco
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  04:20:35  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe this is where the stats for Steel Dragons which were supposed to be CoV will show up in.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  05:05:59  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aghhh another Generic book

I was really hoping that WOTC would make up for the 3 Generic books we got this year with 3 Regional source books in 2006

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  05:14:39  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
While I liked them and they are much more than this, I can't help but notice a trend here. Core D&D gets the Book of Vile Darkness and the Book of Exalted Deeds, we get Champions of Ruin and Champions of Valor . . . Core D&D gets the Draconomicon (thus stealing the title of a 2nd edtion FR product), and we get Dragons of Faerun. Makes me wonder if we will end up with "regional" sourcebooks arranged by terrain and climate rather than tradtional geography (Seas of Faerun, Deserts of Faerun, Winterlands of Faerun anyone?)
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Dargoth
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  05:25:43  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

While I liked them and they are much more than this, I can't help but notice a trend here. Core D&D gets the Book of Vile Darkness and the Book of Exalted Deeds, we get Champions of Ruin and Champions of Valor . . . Core D&D gets the Draconomicon (thus stealing the title of a 2nd edtion FR product), and we get Dragons of Faerun. Makes me wonder if we will end up with "regional" sourcebooks arranged by terrain and climate rather than tradtional geography (Seas of Faerun, Deserts of Faerun, Winterlands of Faerun anyone?)



Probably means where going to get more Serpent kingdoms style books

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Cam Beul
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  05:36:28  Show Profile  Visit Cam Beul's Homepage Send Cam Beul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I really think that such a publishing would be better utilized as a regional book. But I'll try to stay optimistic.
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George Krashos
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  05:57:47  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
C'mon guys! It's going to be a great product. Think of all the dragons you always wanted more information on. I can think of a bunch offhand already ...

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Dargoth
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  06:19:04  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

C'mon guys! It's going to be a great product. Think of all the dragons you always wanted more information on. I can think of a bunch offhand already ...

-- George Krashos




Ask yourself this George

Would you rather have Dragons of Faerun or a Cold lands Regional source book?

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warlockco
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  06:25:22  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth


Probably means where going to get more Serpent kingdoms style books



As long as it has MAPS, I'm okay with that.

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warlockco
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  06:26:22  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

C'mon guys! It's going to be a great product. Think of all the dragons you always wanted more information on. I can think of a bunch offhand already ...

-- George Krashos




Ask yourself this George

Would you rather have Dragons of Faerun or a Cold lands Regional source book?



Can't I have both? And a slice of apple pie to go with it?

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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  14:35:15  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't know - everyone says the old lore will stay in place until a 3E product comes out - that means I'm not in a super rush to get a new regional sourcebook - but the Dragon book does sound neat, as Dragons play a great role in the Realms in general.

C-Fb

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  14:56:24  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey, I'm happy as long as FR is supported (you're talking to someone that has been tracking what is happening in the SW RPG here). I don't want everything to be regional sourcebooks, though a few more would be nice. As far as non-regional topics go, dragons definately are up there on the list.
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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  15:08:39  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Exactly!

And if the Wizards give us a book based on the lore presented in the Year of the Rage Dragons books, some good infos related to the Wyrms of the North article, and tempered with good Draconomicon material...

Well, I“ll be a very very happy dwarf!

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that really like of a well developed dragon, and want to know more about the actual whereabouts of luminars like Garnet, Klauth, and even the Creeping Doom...

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Chosen of Bane
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  17:53:30  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Bane's Homepage Send Chosen of Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have mixed feelings....

I am always happy to see a new FR sourcebook come out and I am very interested in the Dragons of Faerun.

But...

If I had to choose between this and a regional sourcebook, such as the Coldlands, I would probably choose the regional.

But hey, like Warlocko said....I want both!
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sleyvas
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  19:36:41  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually, if its truly about the dragons of Faerun... not a bunch of new magic items or 5 different dragon hunter prestige classes... this could be some good material. Of course, teh question is, is it the dragon mag articles regathered.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  21:33:29  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

C'mon guys! It's going to be a great product. Think of all the dragons you always wanted more information on. I can think of a bunch offhand already ...

-- George Krashos




Ask yourself this George

Would you rather have Dragons of Faerun or a Cold lands Regional source book?



Can't I have both? And a slice of apple pie to go with it?



Apparently not

Once upon a time it used to be 2 Regional and 2 Generic FR source books each year

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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 :  23:54:02  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, at least FR is still being supported... For KEJR and I, SW RPG is a sadness..

C-Fb

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Gray Richardson
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Posted - 19 Nov 2005 :  00:17:10  Show Profile  Visit Gray Richardson's Homepage Send Gray Richardson a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey, I was just thinking it would be really cool if we got some history of when dragons ruled Faerūn. Maybe something on their origins. Some details about their empires and their legacy. If we get a little bit of Serpent Kingdoms and Lost Empires-style lore, then I will be greatly pleased with the book!
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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 19 Nov 2005 :  00:52:03  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's what I was hoping for. It also might give us a synopsis of when they were the supreme creator race and when they were used as mounts with Elves in the Crown Wars, etc. I hope it does give us a Serpent Kingdoms kind of feel - but it needs fold out maps.

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Sanishiver
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Posted - 19 Nov 2005 :  01:28:33  Show Profile  Visit Sanishiver's Homepage Send Sanishiver a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some history on when Dragons rules Faerūn would be an absolute plus.

Maybe they'll plug in some hints as to Dragons on other continents in Faerūn as well?

It'd be cool if they wrote it similar to Lost Empires of Faerūn, but with an emphasis on Dragons and their lore over time. It'd be nice to get more charts on Knowledge Skills as it relates to DC used to unearth or 'know' lore about Dragons (names, hunting grounds, time period they lived in, mate[s], major battles with other races like giants, elves, etc..).

If they can match the look and art layout of the Draconomicon, I'll be very pleased.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 19 Nov 2005 :  01:38:41  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

Ask yourself this George

Would you rather have Dragons of Faerun or a Cold lands Regional source book?



Well, considering I wouldn't get to write the latter, I'll go for Dragons of Faerūn. There, that's being selfish isn't it!

I'm sure that Cold Lands is on the agenda. Given the amount of fan interest that will be generated by Byers and Salvatore, I reckon it's an absolute dead cert. Question is when.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 19 Nov 2005 :  04:57:25  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I hope this book gives info on how to create memorable dragon characters.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 21 Nov 2005 :  23:36:34  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
One thing I will be interested to see is if WOTC put Bahamut back in the Realms (they didnt include him in the 3ed Dragon pantheon)

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George Krashos
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Posted - 22 Nov 2005 :  01:30:55  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How could you have a Realms that features Tiamat so prominently without Bahamut as well? He's got to be included ...

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