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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 07 Sep 2002 : 12:51:50
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I have A question where do monsters come from, like orcs were once mountin drow but ower the years mutated, and Drow were Elves but where are Elves from. I mean way back, before even the creators what started life, was it the gods, what god decided on life.
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My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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kahonen
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Sep 2002 : 13:18:50
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The complete book of Elves contains the following information:
From the primordial turmoil at the center of the universe sprang the gods full-fledged, full-formed. Each claimed jurisdiction over certain effects, all being equally endowed with the power and force of the cosmos. They cooperated for the first (and the last) time to create the worlds. But some gods used their powers more wisely than their brethren. An early alliance formed among these wiser gods. They knew how to manipulate their power. This gathering of gods, who called themselves the Seldarine (or the Brothers and Sisters of the Wood), imparted their very essence into creating certain aspects of the worlds.
While other gods squabbled over jurisdiction and possession of this virtue and that attribute, the Seldarine modified some of the lands, making their worlds lush and green and beautiful. In addition, they created vessels that would one day hold the spirit of the first sentient life to set foot upon these worlds—the race of beings known as Elves. They crafted these vessels with thought and care, and gave them extraordinary beauty. The other gods grew black with jealousy, and they thirsted to imitate the Seldarine.
These gods hastily fashioned their own vessels, vying against those created by the Seldarine. But they would not invest the time vital to creating a race, and so their results were flawed—the gods did not care. Their creations were nothing like those shaped by the Seldarine. Most were Monsters, creatures that would one day haunt the dreams of Elves. Of all the crude creations, only the vessel reserved for Man held a glimmer of potential, for they would one day have the ability to change the land as would the Elves.
The gods of the new races tried too hastily to reproduce a feat that had taken the wiser gods eons. But neither group's constructs would not come to life until the historic meeting between Corellon Larethian and Gruumsh, leader of the Anti-Seldarine.
When the god Gruumsh saw the creation of the Seldarine, the Elves, he regarded it as an abomination—and he became enraged. For the first time, desire for blood pulsed in a god's veins. Gruumsh prepared to crush the Seldarine, and some gods flocked to his standard while others stood aside. Still more, such as Moradin Soul-Forger and Garl Glittergold, aligned with the Seldarine, for they had—though not in conjunction with the Seldarine—set aside areas of the world for their own purposes.
When the inflamed Gruumsh attacked Corellon Larethian, the leader of the Seldarine, a mighty battle began: the Godswar. How long it raged over the pristine fields of the planets, no one knows. Each combatant drew great wounds from the spirit and the body of his or her foe. While the other contenders fell by the wayside (badly hurt, though not mortally wounded), Gruumsh and Corellon would not break off. Instead, they continued their fierce combat. They traversed the planes, and they splashed the other's blood across the lands.
As night drew near, the powers of Gruumsh strengthened, while those of Corellon waned. All seemed lost for the Seldarine. Tears from the moon landed on Corellon's upturned, stricken face, and they mingled freely with his blood. Then Corellon looked to his companions—and it was there he found fortitude. He drew back his sword and, with one fearful blow, clove out the orb of Gruumsh (who became known as Gruumsh One-Eye). The god howled in pain, black ichor spewing from the wound. Gruumsh turned and fled to the netherworld. There he nursed his hate, seeking forever after ways to shape the enemies of the Seldarine. And the greatest of his creations, made in the burning heat of rage and the blackness of his blood, was the Orcs. That is why, to this day, the Orcs and the Elves are such bitter enemies. From the beginning, even before their creation, the very essences of their gods strove against one another.
With Gruumsh's defeat, the Seldarine and their allies continued with their works. The Seldarine gathered the moon's tears and the blood shed by Corellon in that great battle, placed these into the vessels they had created, and infused them with their own spirit. Each god imparted virtue into his or her creation, feeding and nurturing the newly formed race. Thus were the Elves born from the blood of Corellon Larethian, mixed with the soil of the world, blessed with the tears of the moon, and given their nearness to divinity.
The other gods saw this example and set about infusing life into their own sadly misshapen vessels, with varied results. Alas, all other races were but sad imitations of the Elve
After the Godswar, the deities divided the world among themselves so that their creations could prosper and grow. The Seldarine chose the forests for their children, the Elves, but secretly encouraged them to spread as they would. The other gods did likewise, and the races fought for land: The hatred introduced by Gruumsh the Cursed One had spread to the mortal species. The Elves were, at this time, all one people. There were variations, but these were individual, rather than any sort of societal rift. All differences were a matter of personal inclination, and the Elves lived in harmony with one another.
There were those who lusted for power, and those who could not bear to live within the confining walls of a city. Others were rabidly xenophobic, wanting to bar outsiders such as Humans and Dwarves from the Elflands, keeping away the taint of those "unfavored by the gods." Still others, more moderate in most things, were scorned by their brothers or even despised. Each Elf thought he knew best, and each tried to impose his views on his brother. Evil flourished in this atmosphere of distrust and dissent. The great Elf cities of old deteriorated, and the Spider Queen Lolth gained a foothold in the hearts of many Elves. They used her to gain greater power and influence, and her evil ways led them even further astray. These Elves practiced dark magic and forbidden lore to make themselves mighty, and they turned from the light they had loved so much.
The tension grew unbearable. The Elves who had embraced the teachings of Lolth marched into the cities and slaughtered their brethren. The first attack came under cover of darkness, and the other Elves could not mount a defense. But they had seen the dark time to come, and they had readied themselves for war. Their preparations were not in vain. They returned fire. The Elfwar raged for decades, neither side gaining victory. Thousands of Elves perished on both sides, and the number of wounded grew ever higher. The Elves of Lolth took the name Drow to signify their new allegiance, and they took the cities they had captured as their homes. They massed for the final battle, and Lolth covered the land in loathsome clouds of black to strike fear in the hearts of mortal Elves. The Drow were prepared to win—but then the gods themselves intervened.
Corellon Larethian and his companions struck deep into the heart of Drow territory. Long and hard they fought, seeking the evil in that land. Finally, Corellon Larethian came upon the dread Spider Queen, and he attacked. Magic flared and spat; blood merged in rivulets. Then Corellon struck Lolth a telling blow, driving her deep into the earth. With her defeat, the haze over the battlefield lifted, allowing the bright light of the sun to bathe the land in its healing rays.
The Drow turned their faces away from the sun's purification, preferring instead their fallen goddess. They consciously chose the shadows over light, and Corellon decreed that such treachery would forever show upon their faces. It is for this reason that the skin of the Drow is dark. Corellon forced the evil Elves into the rift where he had banished Lolth the Spider. After the last Drow was driven underground, he and his fellow gods abandoned the Elves to their own devices, preferring instead the plane of Arvandor.
-Larian Songshine,
priest of Corellon Larethian
Apologies for the long post but hope the info helps.
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dallasman
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 08 Sep 2002 : 14:44:36
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| Yo, kahonen. Was all that crap neccesary? A simple answer would have done. |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2002 : 15:06:25
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| I think it was pretty useful my self. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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kahonen
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
358 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2002 : 20:10:01
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You don't want to read it, dallasman, don't read it. King Tiax asked a question and I answered it. What would you like to see the forum used for?
King-Tiax - glad it was of use |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2002 : 20:54:10
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| Year, it was very usefull, maby if you read it properly you'ld understand, instead of skimming for the word that in some minute way resemble offensive statements. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2002 : 20:47:40
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| Kanoman, I have a question, why do Beholders remove there Eyes to become mages. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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kahonen
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
358 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2002 : 20:53:31
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Tiax, you need a face man. Best change your profile quick before the Dwarf heads have gone  |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2002 : 20:56:03
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| I like this one. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2002 : 20:57:24
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| yours is Excellent though. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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kahonen
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
358 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2002 : 23:29:58
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| When I did mine earlier and saw the Dwarf I thought "I wonder who's gonna choose that one?" |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2002 : 19:46:12
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Year, I can't work it out.
p.s. Webmaster, the red wizerds were good to. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 21 Sep 2002 : 06:12:34
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The dwarf picture, Tiax, that you have chosen as an avatar is actually an illustration of King Bruenor Battlehammer...one of Drizzt Do'Urden's friends from the Salvatore novels.
IF you haven't read them....shame on you.
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My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 21 Sep 2002 : 11:08:15
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| Yes I know, He is one of my favorite charaters. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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Drummer Boy
Senior Scribe
USA
395 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2002 : 23:31:41
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Originally posted by king-tiax
I have A question where do monsters come from, like orcs were once mountin drow but ower the years mutated, and Drow were Elves but where are Elves from. I mean way back, before even the creators what started life, was it the gods, what god decided on life.
I don't know where monsters come from, but I would like to point out that drow are elves. They are merely distant cousins to the surface elves. |
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 12 Oct 2002 : 08:28:04
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Yeah, I dont see how Orcs came into that Tiax, and werent Orcs on the surface Before the elves even?
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 12 Oct 2002 : 11:33:55
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| Malceor the great Evil even before the Gods mutated the Dark Elves in to an untold evil Army to try and Conqure the planes. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2002 : 07:50:41
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...OH....Ok......I guess that would explain it then....
Hey Tiax, did you see that guy named "Drizzt"? He took my name, portrait, and hes from the USA too, dude its just not right, maybe I'll use my super-cool Drow abilities and kill him in his sleep, and make a Drider slave out of him!
The REAL Great Drizzt
P.S.-Not Cool!!!!!! |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2002 : 20:39:03
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Year, I saw him, what a copy, Ow well, THERES ONLY ONE DRIZZT DO'URDEN. Soon there will be loads of little Tiaxs running around, what anm I going to do.
P.S. theres also a Drizzt Do'urden, it's spreading. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2002 : 08:17:34
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True, but he needs to get his OWN name, and I really hope theres not gonna be a bunch of knee biters runnin around! that will confuse the crap outta me!
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2002 : 20:07:13
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| Year, but this obviously means they look up to us, like gods, I can live with that. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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Shades
Acolyte
Georgia
39 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2002 : 00:06:31
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| Even though King tiax's question of the beholders wasnt directed at me I'll answer anyway. From what I was able to understand is that they only removed the central eye because it cancels out all magic. I don't know if they remove there other eyes though. Wish I still had that book I bought years ago about beholders though. But I'm rambling. |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2002 : 19:46:03
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| No please coninue, so what types of Beholders are there, I know a few, Death Kiss, Gouger, Eye Stalk, any other? |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2002 : 06:09:27
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Uhhmmm...Gauths, Hive Queens, and all the others Tiax mentioned is all I know.
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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Shades
Acolyte
Georgia
39 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2002 : 19:41:31
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| There are elder orbs, death tyrant, spectator (neutral beholder),watcher, overseer, orbus, gauth, eye of the deep, examiner, casharin. If I missed any lemme know. |
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2002 : 07:55:17
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Crap! I knew most of those too, but totally forgot about them, good job! does that about do it Tiax?
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2002 : 17:10:52
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| Year, thats excellent, thanks to both of you. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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Shades
Acolyte
Georgia
39 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2002 : 19:06:17
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| Glad I could help! |
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2002 : 07:28:47
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Yeah me too, I've heard The Great King Tiax is sorta a monster at times, so where does he come from!?
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2002 : 13:26:02
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| Monster, if you wish to see me at the peak of my power then I moun for you as you are as good as dead. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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Drummer Boy
Senior Scribe
USA
395 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2002 : 03:33:26
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Tsk Tsk Tsk..........Didn't I tell you that you needed to pay a visit to an anger management class |
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The orogin of monsters.
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