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maurezen
Acolyte
Russia
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 Posted - 08 Nov 2005 : 13:34:52
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Hi folks!
I'm a novice here, and not as smart in English as I should be. I was always wondering, how should I pronounce "a" in "balor"? Exactly as "a" in "game", shouldn't I?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 08 Nov 2005 : 13:43:14
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That sounds like a decent enough approximation.
I know others pronouce it as "bELL-or". To me though, "bA-lor" -- with hard emphasis on the "A" -- is more appropriate.
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 08 Nov 2005 : 14:41:05
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I have always heard it was a "BAY-lor" as well - and I've met too many on adventures (seems every DM likes to throw damn demons at me!  )
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Darkheyr
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 08 Nov 2005 : 15:07:14
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It's a faked Balrog, so I'd pronounce the "a" exactly the same as in Balrog.
Of course, german is my mother language and there it is pronounced exactly as in "Balrog" as well, so I might be biased :D |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 08 Nov 2005 : 17:23:34
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
I have always heard it was a "BAY-lor" as well - and I've met too many on adventures (seems every DM likes to throw damn demons at me! )
C-Fb
That's how I pronounce it, too. But then again, I know that I don't pronounce all D&D-related words properly. I will always put a long o in drow, though I've read more than once that it should rhyme with "how now, brown cow?" |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 08 Nov 2005 : 17:31:13
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
I have always heard it was a "BAY-lor" as well - and I've met too many on adventures (seems every DM likes to throw damn demons at me! )
C-Fb
That's how I pronounce it, too. But then again, I know that I don't pronounce all D&D-related words properly. I will always put a long o in drow, though I've read more than once that it should rhyme with "how now, brown cow?"
We all do that. Poking through the Cyclopedia of the Realms a few minutes ago, I discovered I've been pronouncing Malar's name wrong for 5+ years.  |
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Darkheyr
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 08 Nov 2005 : 17:32:52
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2005 : 17:36:29
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Originally posted by Darkheyr
Don't get me started on "Cyric". :/
SEER-ick? Cire-ick? Ky-rick? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2005 : 17:40:42
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Originally posted by The Sage
Hehe... I still get Myrkul wrong. But now I just pronounce it incorrectly on purpose to irritate my players .
Is Mirr-kul correct, or is it Meer-kul? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2005 : 19:15:27
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Wait a sec - how are you supposed to pronounce Malar?
And Wooly - good looking out - that's the correct way to pronounce Drow! 
C-Fb |
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Edited by - Crennen FaerieBane on 08 Nov 2005 19:15:56 |
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Beirnadri Magranth
Senior Scribe
USA
720 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2005 : 20:26:12
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quote:
Originally posted by Darkheyr
It's a faked Balrog, so I'd pronounce the "a" exactly the same as in Balrog.
Of course, german is my mother language and there it is pronounced exactly as in "Balrog" as well, so I might be biased :D
yes this is teh correct pronunciation... i talked to gary gygax about this exact question in an interview with him |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 08 Nov 2005 : 21:52:46
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Originally posted by Arivia
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Originally posted by Darkheyr
Don't get me started on "Cyric". :/
SEER-ick? Cire-ick? Ky-rick?
You forgot Sy-rick
Oh, and how is Malar supposed to be pronounced? (I've always used long A's since that's the way it'd be pronounced in Swedish). |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Malarick
Seeker
United Kingdom
86 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2005 : 23:58:49
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Oh, and how is Malar supposed to be pronounced? (I've always used long A's since that's the way it'd be pronounced in Swedish).
And you see, I have always read this and pronounced it as
MAY-Lar
Pronunciations are things that should be put in the sourcebooks
If you want a humdinger, you ought to see how Cherokee Indians pronounce the word Cherokee.
I think the pronunciation of words on Toril would also depend on the regional dialect! |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2005 : 00:06:55
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Originally posted by Kajehase
You forgot Sy-rick
Oh, and how is Malar supposed to be pronounced? (I've always used long A's since that's the way it'd be pronounced in Swedish).
True, I did, and May-larr. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 09 Nov 2005 : 00:53:41
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Originally posted by Malarick
And you see, I have always read this and pronounced it as
MAY-Lar
Pronunciations are things that should be put in the sourcebooks
MAH-larr, according to Faiths & Avatars. Those deity books include the pronunciation of the deity names. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Nov 2005 : 01:08:14
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| Hm . . . the original Cyclopedia of the Realms (Grey Box) says MAY-larr. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Nov 2005 : 01:13:17
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But the real challenge is getting used to the proper proununciation once you find it out. For years I used to say pal-AD-in, and even to this day I fall back into that dispite knowing how its suppose to be prounounced.
Of course, the worst pronunciation embarrasment I ever had was playing at a convention and realizing that, since we were attacked by white furry humanoids which my bard properly identified as Quaggoths, that drow might be involved. I pronounced drow properly, at least according to the Gygax method, and everyone at the table took about five minutes out of the session to riducule me for pronouncing it that way.
I didn't talk much for the rest of the session . . . that kind of stuff puts a damper on newly forged relationships . . . |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 09 Nov 2005 : 02:21:35
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Hm . . . the original Cyclopedia of the Realms (Grey Box) says MAY-larr.
Odd... But I'll stick with the "newer lore trumps older lore" rule. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 09 Nov 2005 : 02:31:00
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Hm . . . the original Cyclopedia of the Realms (Grey Box) says MAY-larr.
Odd... But I'll stick with the "newer lore trumps older lore" rule.
Actually if you look at a lot of the pronouncation in the 1e box set and the 2e box set, etc, they are different. Especially for a lot of the NPC's. :) |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2005 : 02:54:49
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All goes to show you we only need one edition! Should have done it right! 
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maurezen
Acolyte
Russia
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Posted - 09 Nov 2005 : 08:38:27
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| Thank ye men for answering. And about editions... does anyone knows where one can get the rulebooks for the first editions? |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 09 Nov 2005 : 09:07:30
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Originally posted by maurezen
Thank ye men for answering. And about editions... does anyone knows where one can get the rulebooks for the first editions?
Used bookstores and online, mostly-whether it's in ebook format from paizo.com or such or through ordering online through a retailer that specializes in out-of-print products. |
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maurezen
Acolyte
Russia
26 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2005 : 10:58:33
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Hmm... I'm from Russia, and that does mean something. I don't want to pay anything, I mean:)
But thanks anyway. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 09 Nov 2005 : 13:02:07
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Originally posted by maurezen
Hmm... I'm from Russia, and that does mean something. I don't want to pay anything, I mean:)
But thanks anyway.
It's actually an illegal practice to ask about or obtain TSR/WotC products for free (available as PDF downloads via various P2P software like Kazaa) over the web. The only freely available and official TSR/WotC accessories are those they have declared themselves. See here for the listing:- http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads
If you want 1e rulesbooks, you'll have to pay for them. The paizo.com site offers older editions rulebooks for $4 US. They're PDFs though...
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 09 Nov 2005 : 23:29:03
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| In the "how the heck do I pronounce this?" category, I submit Eaerlann. I realized a little while ago that I was pronouncing it "air-eh-lan," as though it's spelled Aerelann. I've tried, but I can't figure out how one pronounces "eaer." Anyone more familiar with old English? How do you all pronounce it? |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 10 Nov 2005 : 00:49:24
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Don't call it Old English - Winterfox will probably tear your heart out.
I have always pronounced it "ee-ae-er-lan." Always sounded Elven to me.
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Nov 2005 : 01:37:22
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I didn't really think it was Old English (or Middle English, for that matter), but rather that what little I've seen of the old languages seem to have a lot of "ea" and "ae" in them, and that someone who understood that language might have a better clue than I.
But I make that distinction because a friend of mine studied Old and Middle English is college, not because I care what Winterfox thinks.
And thanks for your take on the pronunciation. |
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maurezen
Acolyte
Russia
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Posted - 10 Nov 2005 : 11:11:13
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by maurezen
Hmm... I'm from Russia, and that does mean something. I don't want to pay anything, I mean:)
But thanks anyway.
It's actually an illegal practice to ask about or obtain TSR/WotC products for free (available as PDF downloads via various P2P software like Kazaa) over the web. The only freely available and official TSR/WotC accessories are those they have declared themselves. See here for the listing:- http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads
If you want 1e rulesbooks, you'll have to pay for them. The paizo.com site offers older editions rulebooks for $4 US. They're PDFs though...
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