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Feanor
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 25 Aug 2005 : 16:59:58
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1. Can a god act directly against the tenets of his portofolio ? I mean : Torm telling a lie, Cyric behaving honorable, Tempus promoting peace, Tyr being unjust and so on... I am strongly convinced that a god cannot do that, because it goes against their nature.
2. If a mortal assumes the portofolio of Death from Bhaal, can it remain a good god ? Personally, I think that a good-aligned mortal with such a portofolio would became evil or neutral.
3. What Tyr should do when he is confronted with a clear violation of the paladinic ethos by one of his paladins ? (A paladin who, driven by jealousy, accused unjustly a good character who was on the course of performing a task for the church of Tyr and also did a great service to that paladin in the past) Can he show mercy or he must apply a punishment ? Since Tyr is quite stiff-necked in this matters, I would assume he would be relentless.
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Aug 2005 : 17:08:09
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I'll take the third one first . . . if he shows mercy to the paladin, who is suppose to be upholding justice, how much mercy is he showing the innocent. I don't even think this is stiff neck, but just being lawful good. Punishment doesn't mean death or dismemberment either, but the paladin should definately loose his powers.
Bhaal's real technical portfolio is murder, so I doubt a good diety could take it up. It has already been claimed by Cyric, who has yet to loose THAT portfolio.
As to the first . . . I think it depends on how long the god has been a god, and if they were ever mortal in the first place. I think the longer they have their portfolio, the more it is "part" of them. Dispite this, I think the actions of other gods and even the influence of powerful situations or relics might be able to snap them out of their thinking long enough for them to do some things that are "out of character." Heck, several of them did things that were out of character during the Time of Troubles. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 25 Aug 2005 : 17:12:38
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1. I'd say they can, but it would be exceedingly unlikely. It may go against Torm's nature to tell a lie, for example, but that doesn't mean he's incapable of doing so. Of course, it might be damaging to his portfolio to do so...
2. Bhaal doesn't have death, and didn't have it when he was around. He was all about murder. Jergal held Death, then Myrkul, then Cyric, and now Kelemvor.
Finder Wyvernspur was a mortal who assumed portfolios from an evil deity, and whose alignment did not change. In fact, if I remember correctly, his alignment is shifting to good.
3. I think Tyr would strip the paladin of his special abilities until he had atoned for his actions. |
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Sir Luther Cromwell
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 25 Aug 2005 : 17:22:14
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2. Bhaal doesn't have death, and didn't have it when he was around. He was all about murder. Jergal held Death, then Myrkul, then Cyric, and now Kelemvor.
I somehow see a bunch of gods playing hot-potatoe.
Each portfolio is most likely slowly but surely altering the individual that owns it. How quickly this happens depends upon the will power of the individual, but I would imagine that a paladin who gained the portfolio of murder would slowly, but surely decay into becoming a black guard.
Likewise, in exchange that portfolio would reflect its holder. For instance, say Bane were to kill Torm and take away his portfolios. I would think that his new possesion of the 'paladin' portfolio would drastically change the paladin class (probably making all, if not most paladins black guards). |
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Kuje
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Posted - 25 Aug 2005 : 17:22:19
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
1. I'd say they can, but it would be exceedingly unlikely. It may go against Torm's nature to tell a lie, for example, but that doesn't mean he's incapable of doing so. Of course, it might be damaging to his portfolio to do so...
2. Bhaal doesn't have death, and didn't have it when he was around. He was all about murder. Jergal held Death, then Myrkul, then Cyric, and now Kelemvor.
Actually, Bhaal did have death according to 1e and 2e lore, but Lost Empires gave it to Myrkul and I asked Rich about it and he said there wasn't much difference between the dead and death and so Myrkul is both the god of the dead and death. :) |
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Melfius
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 25 Aug 2005 : 17:56:43
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I'm going to wade in on question #1:
If we go by the personality/psychological descriptioons of the gods form the post-Avatar series books (Prince of Lies and Crucible), I would have to say that it is impossible for a deity to go against their own protfolio. As an example, I will cite Mystra's revelation of 'looking through her fellow deities' eyes'. As is seen in this scene, each god percieves the world around them in a light that reflects their own portfolio. Mystra saw the meeting of deities as a spell lab, while Tyr views it as a courtroom, etc.
This demonstrates a decidedly single-minded view of the cosmos. Remember, while some of these deities were once mortal, they are no longer so. They are the embodiments of the portfolio they hold sway over. This goes a long way to explaining why a good deity like Lathander would try to destroy the world leading to the Dawn Cataclysm. It was what he is. You could even say that once the idea was presented to him, whether by another deity or from his own imaginings, he had no choice but to act on it, feeling that this was what he had to do to continue filling his role. This is why Ao did not destroy him for his actions, and why Torm was resored to life after his destruction in the Avatar Trilogy - Ao will not punish a deity for doing their job, regardless of the effects it has.
So, in the examples given, Torm would be incapable of lying. He cannot even conceive of telling a lie, it's just not there for him. A blind-spot, if you will. This is not to say that he cannot conceive of others telling lies. He fully expects some to do so, like Cyric.
Cyric cannot behave honorably, unless it is to some dastardly end. A truly altruistic motive is just as beyond him as a lie is to Torm.
Tyr cannot be unjust. He can only see others being unjust, to which he must respond by bringing justice, just as you or I feel the need to draw a breath once the last one was expelled. It's cause and effect.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 : 01:40:15
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
1. I'd say they can, but it would be exceedingly unlikely. It may go against Torm's nature to tell a lie, for example, but that doesn't mean he's incapable of doing so. Of course, it might be damaging to his portfolio to do so...
And for the clergies associated with the god as well.
I think some of the more "firm believers" of a deity's portfolio might see their god's decision to act against the interests of their portfolio as a threat to their faith. They may consider the god in a new light, perhaps even going so far as to question their service to him or her.
But this would, I think, only really occur if the deity had taken exceptional steps against his or her portfolio. I don't think Wooly's example of Torm telling a lie, especially with respect to Torm's promotion of honour and loyalty, would be enough of a threat to warrant what I'm suggesting here. Perhaps if Torm were to actively "support" the lie... thus giving it more strength or validity in the face of the real truth, then that might make some clerics wonder about the "moral position" of their god.
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Feanor
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 : 12:26:10
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Originally posted by Sir Luther Cromwell
I somehow see a bunch of gods playing hot-potatoe.
Likewise, in exchange that portfolio would reflect its holder. For instance, say Bane were to kill Torm and take away his portfolios. I would think that his new possesion of the 'paladin' portfolio would drastically change the paladin class (probably making all, if not most paladins black guards).
I would disagree. Bane could not take Torm's portofolio because, by doing so, he won't be Bane anymore. Every god has to promote the tenets of his own portofolio, but Torm's portofolio would contradict the original portofolio of Bane. |
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Faramicos
Senior Scribe
Denmark
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 : 12:30:25
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We saw it in the avatar trilogy where Midnight where given the form of Mystra and the following portfolios and in the following books centered on Cyric. The trial against cyric also dealed with the question of whether Midnight/Mystra and Kelemvor acted against their divine duties. They confessed to that and showed that a god has the ability to do so... But as well as all of us are capable of murder and other horrible crimes it is as far from the nature of most of us as anything can be... I think that it is even more unlikely that a gods would act against their divine obligations. But they are capable of doing so...
I also think, as mentioned above that it becomes more dificult for a god to do so the longer they hold their place in the pantheon... They duties becomes a bigger part of them the longer they are deities. They rise to the occation... |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 : 14:25:23
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Originally posted by Feanor
1. Can a god act directly against the tenets of his portofolio ? I mean : Torm telling a lie, Cyric behaving honorable, Tempus promoting peace, Tyr being unjust and so on... I am strongly convinced that a god cannot do that, because it goes against their nature.
2. If a mortal assumes the portofolio of Death from Bhaal, can it remain a good god ? Personally, I think that a good-aligned mortal with such a portofolio would became evil or neutral.
3. What Tyr should do when he is confronted with a clear violation of the paladinic ethos by one of his paladins ? (A paladin who, driven by jealousy, accused unjustly a good character who was on the course of performing a task for the church of Tyr and also did a great service to that paladin in the past) Can he show mercy or he must apply a punishment ? Since Tyr is quite stiff-necked in this matters, I would assume he would be relentless.
To the first question:
They are unlikely to do such kind of acts, yes, in a way it goes against what they represent and their duties. But they can be tricked into doing so, provided a god knows how to do it. Even Torm was noted trying to convince Mask with his preachings and trying to temper Red Knight thirst for war with war for justice or something like that.
To the second question:
Hmm, well so far Finder Wyvernspur who has assumed Moander's portfolio has remained a good deity or rather turning into a good responsible deity. Based on Finder's example, I generally assume it is possible for the mortal to remain a good god even after assuming an "evil" portfolio.
To the third question:
Hmm....there was a paladin who was condemned to undeath in Book 3 of the Pools Trilogy, condemned for some offenses against Tyr's Paladinic code. It is generally assumed that Tyr would punish that paladin like every deity does to a faithful who has broken away from the deity's teachings and dogma but rarely do they carry out such heavy punishments anyway, mostly the deity refuse to answer that heretic prayers to him/her until that heretic repents and return to the deity's proper teachings or is forgiven by the deity. |
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Melfius
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 : 14:27:53
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| Good point. As former mortals, Mystra, Kelemvor, and Cyric probably retain some of their free-will. But as time passes they would begin to lose this. |
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Shadovar
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 : 14:32:11
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Originally posted by Melfius
Good point. As former mortals, Mystra, Kelemvor, and Cyric probably retain some of their free-will. But as time passes they would begin to lose this.
True, but maybe accelerated for Mystra(Midnight) if she manages to defeat Shar and assume control of the Shadow Weave, she may lose whatever last vestiges of her own "mortal" parts instantly. |
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Faramicos
Senior Scribe
Denmark
468 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2005 : 14:36:14
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| It is indeed a progress... But as the 3 examples with Cyric, Midnight and Kelemvor are the most recent and most well-recorded it is the main examples for us to examine. But i would be amazed if they didnt lose the rest of their mortal free will in time. |
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RedStrike
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 : 14:38:01
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Originally posted by Melfius
Good point. As former mortals, Mystra, Kelemvor, and Cyric probably retain some of their free-will. But as time passes they would begin to lose this.
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Melfius
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 : 14:39:40
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Originally posted by RedStrike
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Originally posted by Melfius
Good point. As former mortals, Mystra, Kelemvor, and Cyric probably retain some of their free-will. But as time passes they would begin to lose this.
A small price to pay when a mortal ascends to godhood.
I suppose that viewpoint would depend on whether you viewed ascension as a good or bad thing. Elminster certainly doesn't like the idea. |
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RedStrike
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 : 14:43:00
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Originally posted by Faramicos
It is indeed a progress... But as the 3 examples with Cyric, Midnight and Kelemvor are the most recent and most well-recorded it is the main examples for us to examine. But i would be amazed if they didnt lose the rest of their mortal free will in time.
Kelemvor position as a god of the dead is.....a risky and dangerous position, for it was widely known that the last two predecessors of Kelemvor went insane.
Midnight though a goddess now, sometimes allow her mortal free will to get the better of her and bringing her unnecessary risks that may compromise her position and her faithful, I think it is better that Midnight throw away the last vestiges of her mortal free will away.
Cyric though now cured of his own Cyrinishad induced madness, no longer harbors that "want to be like Ao" thoughts already but somehow his position......a bit coincide with his mortal thinking even he is a god now. |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 : 18:28:26
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
1. I'd say they can, but it would be exceedingly unlikely. It may go against Torm's nature to tell a lie, for example, but that doesn't mean he's incapable of doing so. Of course, it might be damaging to his portfolio to do so...
2. Bhaal doesn't have death, and didn't have it when he was around. He was all about murder. Jergal held Death, then Myrkul, then Cyric, and now Kelemvor.
Actually, Bhaal did have death according to 1e and 2e lore, but Lost Empires gave it to Myrkul and I asked Rich about it and he said there wasn't much difference between the dead and death and so Myrkul is both the god of the dead and death. :)
Actually, there is a difference between the dead and death... as Bhaal notes in the F&A myth which tells about how Bhaal, Bane and Myrkul ascended to divinity and confronted Jergal. I don't approve of this change in the Lost Empires  |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 : 18:30:22
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| Feanor, I think a good god may become a god of death, but certainly his portfolio will eventually start affecting/twisting his/her personality. Prime examples of this are Kelemvor and Cyric... |
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Melfius
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 : 18:45:19
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| Being a good-aligned God of Death or the Dead would be a matter of outlook. Where in the sceme of life do you focus? An early death? No, that's a bad thing. Death granted after a long, fruitful life? That's good. Death granted to those that would otherwise suffer unnecessarily over a long period? That might be good as well. (Please, I don't want to debate the topic of euthanasia!) I think Kelemvor is doing a good job, being good. He is commissioning crusaders to combat undeath. He believes in dying valiantly in battle. What do you think? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 : 19:21:48
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Originally posted by AsgetrionActually, there is a difference between the dead and death... as Bhaal notes in the F&A myth which tells about how Bhaal, Bane and Myrkul ascended to divinity and confronted Jergal. I don't approve of this change in the Lost Empires
I know there is but the game designers feel there isn't and so they made that change in Lost Empires. |
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 26 Aug 2005 : 23:52:40
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Death is a natural force. It is not evil or good.
Murder is evil. Death is a result of murder, but is not itself evil.
Giving your life for another is good. Death resulting from this altruism is not itself good.
The Lion that kills the Gazelle is doing nothing evil, but death results.
Is birth good? Is the birth of the murderer that kills an innocent an evil birth?
Look I understand why so often death is assigned to evil gods. But even in myth the gods of the dead were not always evil, and I would argue that it is arbitrary to assign alignments to mythological gods.
Odin is considered a lawful good god in 1e, and Chaotic good I beleive in 3e. Odin did some things in the myths that one would consider evil. It was not about good or evil. It was about what had to be done.
Death is not good. Infact alot of the writings on death (Modern writings that is) discusses it as a peaceful event. Full of mourning for the deceased loved ones, and full of peace for the deceased.
Who knows? I would refute the point though that a good god of death would become corrupted. I do not think said deity would. I do not beleive DEATH is an evil force.
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Melfius
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Posted - 27 Aug 2005 : 01:03:46
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| So what you are saying is that death is a force of nature, like birth and growth? Good point! |
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Dargoth
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Posted - 27 Aug 2005 : 01:21:45
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Lets assume that Bane god of Hatred killed Sune the goddess of Love
Technically Bane would have the option of being the God of Love.
I suspect one of the following would take place
1) Bane would just drop the Love portfolio as he prefers hatred over love
2) Bane might want the Portfolio of Love but AO steps in and says no you cant have as he doesnt believe Bane can do the Love and Hatred Domains justice
3)Bane takes the Love portfolio but doesnt advocate it in affect Bane is still the God of Tyranny, Hatred and Fear but hes also got the portfolio of Love which hes not actively using. There could not be another God of Love unless someone defeats Bane and takes if from him |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 27 Aug 2005 : 02:59:13
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I doubt Ao would allow a deity to hold a portfolio if they weren't suited to it...
I doubt even more he'd allow a deity to hold but ignore a portfolio. Besides, if the holder of a portfolio wasn't doing anything for the portfolio, that would be cause for them to either have it stripped away, or lose it to a deity that would enforce it. At least, that's my take on it. |
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 27 Aug 2005 : 04:45:36
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I consider that if a mortal rises to the level of deity it might not be AO that decides the portfolio.
I think that a NEW deity might be able to take on an aspect of the portfolio of the god that sponsored him (unless he DEFEATED that god). For example UBER the RANGER worships Sylvanus. Sylvanus sponsors him. When he ascends Sylvanus grants him the portfolio of Wolves since it falls within his portfolio of Wild Nature.
Also the portfolios seem to range in power. We have Sylvanus WILD NATURE and Mielikki Forests or forest creatures.
I think it is OK to make new Portfolios without upsetting any sort of balance.
If in my campaign The players actions allow THOR to enter the realms then Talos is going to LOSE storms, and Thor is going to GAIN it as his portfolio. But I am also creating a portfolio of THUNDER which will be Thors alone.
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Melfius
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Posted - 27 Aug 2005 : 04:51:46
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| Actually, no deity exists without Ao's say-so. |
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Shadovar
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Posted - 27 Aug 2005 : 06:09:21
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Actually, no deity exists without Ao's say-so.
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In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 27 Aug 2005 : 06:52:54
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I doubt Ao would allow a deity to hold a portfolio if they weren't suited to it...
Indeed. To do so would threaten the Balance.
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I doubt even more he'd allow a deity to hold but ignore a portfolio. Besides, if the holder of a portfolio wasn't doing anything for the portfolio, that would be cause for them to either have it stripped away, or lose it to a deity that would enforce it. At least, that's my take on it.
We can assume though that Ao would, at the very least, try to determine why a particular deity may be ignoring a certain portfolio -- before any actual decision is made.
For example, lesser gods or demi-powers may be subtlely pressured by gods of higher ranking to ignore a particular portfolio, or rather, spend less time enforcing it than they would their primary aspects.
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Dargoth
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Posted - 27 Aug 2005 : 07:38:24
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| Umm Finder Wyvernspur has rot as one of the portfolios he picked up from Moander but hes not encouraging rot |
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Melfius
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Posted - 27 Aug 2005 : 10:15:42
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 27 Aug 2005 : 18:17:00
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Umm Finder Wyvernspur has rot as one of the portfolios he picked up from Moander but hes not encouraging rot
He doesn't encourage rot for the sake of something decaying. He encourages it as a part of the cycle of life and creativity -- a natural state, and one is merely part of a cycle, a place to grow from. |
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Gods and their freedom of choices
