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ericlboyd
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Posted - 14 Mar 2006 :  23:30:25  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

And there is much sadness in the hamster's home, because FedEx hasn't gotten the book to my FLGS yet. So I guess I have to wait until the morrow to see what the page 28 spoiler is...



Day 1 of a 60-day mission to stymie the hamster. Result: Success!

Plans for Day 2: In progress.

;-)

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BobROE
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Posted - 14 Mar 2006 :  23:41:56  Show Profile  Visit BobROE's Homepage Send BobROE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

quote:
Originally posted by BobROE

Eric,

For the Court Herald what spells per day does the class get?



The court herald is a variant loremaster, IIRC. Don't remember the specifics off-hand.

--Eric



Which is true, but it gets a new spell list and casts spells as a sorcerer, but there's no chart for spells per day, only for spells known (and is a 12 level PrC which is a little odd).

Also on the Leadership table in the Keep the Faith chapter there's Shaper of the Divine listed, and I can't find it explained anywhere.
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Arivia
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  00:07:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BobROE
Which is true, but it gets a new spell list and casts spells as a sorcerer, but there's no chart for spells per day, only for spells known (and is a 12 level PrC which is a little odd).


And 12 levels prevents you from just using the stuff as replacement levels; it looks like there's a missing table(the one you normally see for a prestige class).

quote:

Also on the Leadership table in the Keep the Faith chapter there's Shaper of the Divine listed, and I can't find it explained anywhere.


This is buried at the end of "Fractious Sects Within The Church" on page 53.
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warlockco
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  00:13:59  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

To those who have it

What are the feats like?



Unusual, some of them are very open (i.e. both the Player and DM have to agree on what it does).

Only thing I don't like about this book is the Table of Contents doesn't list the Feats or Prestige Classes.

Overall it appears to be quite good, just seems a bit disorganized.
And not really something that everyone will pick up.
I see those that want to do "political" type games or Realmslore Fanatics being the major buyers.

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nbnmare
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  00:31:57  Show Profile  Visit nbnmare's Homepage Send nbnmare a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm curious - is the growing Loomwarden/Spellsavant rift within the church of Azuth mentioned in the "Fractious Sects" section?

In fact, maybe you could give us a list of all the rifts/heresies? Please?
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Arivia
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quote:
Originally posted by nbnmare

I'm curious - is the growing Loomwarden/Spellsavant rift within the church of Azuth mentioned in the "Fractious Sects" section?


No; the main focus is on the Oghmanyte Great Patriarch debacle, with small notes about Cyric and Bane/Iyachtu Xvim.

quote:

In fact, maybe you could give us a list of all the rifts/heresies? Please?



See above for the rifts I spot on a quick look-through; the heresies are: Cult of Shared Suffering, Dark Moon Heresy, Risen Sun Heresy, and the Three-Faced Sun Heresy.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd


Day 1 of a 60-day mission to stymie the hamster. Result: Success!

Plans for Day 2: In progress.

;-)




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Sarta
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  01:37:59  Show Profile Send Sarta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry Wooly, I'm not supposed to mention the Lantan invasion of High Forest on page 28.

Gnome Powah!

(sorry for posting this "spoiler")


Edited by - Sarta on 15 Mar 2006 01:46:56
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Kajehase
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  01:58:13  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

I see those that want to do "political" type games or Realmslore Fanatics being the major buyers.



*paces impatiently*

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Arivia
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  02:02:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase
*paces impatiently*



You'll enjoy it. Some of the vocabulary sections alone are worth the cover price.
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Blueblade
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  02:09:48  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
“Only thing I don't like about this book is the Table of Contents doesn't list the Feats or Prestige Classes.”

Well, that only matters to gamers who cherry-pick every sourcebook for feats and prestige classes. For them, POF is hardly worth it. It’s just not that kind of book.

“just seems a bit disorganized”
Huh? Is your copy different from mine?
Looks very organized to me, considering how many different topics are covered. The chapter names are a very good guide.

Oh, well. Just goes to show how differently two scribes can view the same book, I guess.
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warlockco
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I'm still trying to figure out why people are Hating towards Rich Baker for what he did with the Last Mythal. Yeah there is a spoiler for it in Power of Faerun.
But what he did without more details being known, is something that alot of people been trying to do in their own campaigns it seems, or at least from the frequency that subject had popped over at the WotC boards.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  04:25:03  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I got my copy today. Given the recent histrionics, page 28 was the first thing I wanted to view. Some vedddy interesting information on that page although nothing that I think would be shocking to those who have been reading Richard Baker's trilogy.
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Kajehase
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quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase
*paces impatiently*



You'll enjoy it. Some of the vocabulary sections alone are worth the cover price.



Vocabulary sections!! This is going to be 10 long days...

Eric, do you need any help with that plan to stymie the hamster? I need something to stay busy

There is a rumour going around that I have found god. I think is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist.
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Arivia
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  05:57:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase
Vocabulary sections!! This is going to be 10 long days...

Eric, do you need any help with that plan to stymie the hamster? I need something to stay busy



I knew you'd drool for that tidbit...
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  11:17:24  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase



Eric, do you need any help with that plan to stymie the hamster? I need something to stay busy



Hey now! I've got a swarm of Miniature Giant Space Hamsters handy, and I'm not afraid to use it...

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  11:41:26  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase



Eric, do you need any help with that plan to stymie the hamster? I need something to stay busy



Hey now! I've got a swarm of Miniature Giant Space Hamsters handy, and I'm not afraid to use it...



Day 2 Plan: Release the miniature giant space hamsters, forcing the Wooly One to spend the day rounding them up (and thereby not get around to the infamous page 28). Back-up Plan: Drive off the Fed-Ex Man with the Miniature Giant Space Hamster SWARM!!!!

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  16:30:23  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase



Eric, do you need any help with that plan to stymie the hamster? I need something to stay busy



Hey now! I've got a swarm of Miniature Giant Space Hamsters handy, and I'm not afraid to use it...



Day 2 Plan: Release the miniature giant space hamsters, forcing the Wooly One to spend the day rounding them up (and thereby not get around to the infamous page 28). Back-up Plan: Drive off the Fed-Ex Man with the Miniature Giant Space Hamster SWARM!!!!

--Eric





Maybe I should just quit while I'm (somewhat) ahead...

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Arivia
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  16:43:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert


Maybe I should just quit while I'm (somewhat) ahead...



*waggles copy in front of Wooly's face*
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert


Maybe I should just quit while I'm (somewhat) ahead...



*waggles copy in front of Wooly's face*



I just called my FLGS... FedEx never showed yesterday, and they've been calling to try to track them down... Maybe this afternoon...

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Arnwyn
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  19:47:33  Show Profile  Visit Arnwyn's Homepage Send Arnwyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Looks to be pretty decent so far, but as others have mentioned, there are definite problems with that Herald prestige class (to the point of being unplayable without clarifications), and I did find it to be more disorganized than usual.

Not too keen on the "storyline advancements" (ie. ignoring DMs and the game world in a game-specific book), but I suspect I'm the minority on those kinds of issues...

After some proper reading, I do think that despite the problems this will likely be my favorite post-3e FR book yet. IMO, the chapter on merchants is worth the price of admission.
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msatran
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  20:12:13  Show Profile  Visit msatran's Homepage Send msatran a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But guys, Power of Faerun really refers to how the world gets all of it's energy.

And that's Rupert! Running on his hamster wheel! If you let him have the book, he'll leave the wheel, and Faerun will be dark for a week.
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  20:47:21  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by msatran

But guys, Power of Faerun really refers to how the world gets all of it's energy.

And that's Rupert! Running on his hamster wheel! If you let him have the book, he'll leave the wheel, and Faerun will be dark for a week.



Think of him as a Junior Elder Elemental Evil. Sort of like Dendar, but not so bad.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  21:05:15  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

quote:
Originally posted by msatran

But guys, Power of Faerun really refers to how the world gets all of it's energy.

And that's Rupert! Running on his hamster wheel! If you let him have the book, he'll leave the wheel, and Faerun will be dark for a week.



Think of him as a Junior Elder Elemental Evil. Sort of like Dendar, but not so bad.

--Eric



I dare you to write that into the next sourcebook, Eric!

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Kentinal
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quote:
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I dare you to write that into the next sourcebook, Eric!



Oh many things can be written, getting into print however is another story. Ed complains about things that get cut, as do some others.

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"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
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Kuje
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Cough,

This has gotten way off topic. For shame Wooly. :)

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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George Krashos
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quote:
Originally posted by Arnwyn
Not too keen on the "storyline advancements" (ie. ignoring DMs and the game world in a game-specific book), but I suspect I'm the minority on those kinds of issues...



Umm, just what do you mean by "ignoring DMs and the gameworld in a game specific book"? If I assume you mean the progression of plot points raised in previous game products (like LOI), then that comment doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense, with all due respect. From the very first FR gaming product the Realms has moved and turned and 'happened' in game products. Sure, the novels in recent times have been the major timeline and plot 'pushers' but so have the game products. Every single one has included "storyline advancements". Why shouldn't PoF?

If I haven't properly understood your comment then I apologise in advance. Maybe you can clarify what you meant.

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Skeptic
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Finally got my copy, really good overall. May WOTC gives Ed and Eric more opportunities to work together!

Little things I disliked :

A bit thin on ELH specific-content. (Was Inferno created for it?)
Too much emphasis on Heroes of Battle stuff.
I was a bit sad to see no updates on the banite Mintar battlefield.

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Dargoth
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How does PoF build on HoB? Does the Battlefield chapter assume you have HoB?

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 15 Mar 2006 :  23:43:58  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

How does PoF build on HoB? Does the Battlefield chapter assume you have HoB?



Yes. The battlefield chapter assumes "Heroes of Battle" (and states that explicitly). That said, there's still plenty of use even if you don't have it.

Likewise the merchant chapter assumes "DMG 2" (and states that explicitly). That said, there's still plenty of use even if you don't have it.

I don't recall any other major dependencies. I believe most of the other cross-references are in the "suggested prestige class" lists at the beginning of each chapter.

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