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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 24 Jul 2005 : 08:13:58
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Poll Question:
Im currently in the process of redoing my "Predator" FR D&D conversion and my brother reckons that there medium sized but I say their large
The Monster Manual defines medium size as 4-8 feet and large as 8-16 Feet.
I believe the Predator would be just over 8 feet tall
* The creature Im refering to is the Predator from the 2 Predator movies (one featuring Arnie) and the more recent Aliens vs Predator it has also appeared in Darkhorse comic series
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 24 Jul 2005 : 08:54:20
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Most of the online sources on the Yautja would seem to suggest that they stand over seven feet tall -- with females averaging just a fraction taller.
This page suggests a height of around 250cm for males and 300cm for females. The wiki entry offers a stat of just over two metres, while one of the primary sources for information on the Predator race tells us that they average a height of around 2-2.5 metres.
Looking at these, I'd also agree with your "large" assessment.
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Jindael
Senior Scribe
USA
357 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2005 : 12:33:38
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I say medium as well. They are close enough in size to humans to not really matter, and they really don't need the negative that come with being large. With their unique weapon sets, they hardly need the reach either.
And, while they are big, they don't quite strike me as large. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Melfius
Senior Scribe
USA
516 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2005 : 21:25:44
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I agree with Wooly. Also, having watched the "Making of's", I know that not much was done to increase the actor's height. Being that he was human, that would put him as a Medium. Also, the Governator is about the same height. |
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ode904
Learned Scribe
Finland
193 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2005 : 21:58:32
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I say medium. You have said the facts already.. And word 'predator' is something dangerous, but also fast and creature with good movement in my mind. Not something big creature. I would say medium |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Jul 2005 : 22:28:54
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I want another option *wink*
As far as it goes you could go with level advancement in monster Hit Dice (where many change size). |
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Melfius
Senior Scribe
USA
516 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2005 : 23:03:39
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Well, Kentinal, as one of the sad few who actually saw both of those movies, I can say that older, wiser Predators are also Medium. Now, I will go back to my daily penance of watching the D&D Movie. |
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Edited by - Melfius on 25 Jul 2005 23:05:12 |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2005 : 23:54:13
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Actually the Predators at least a foot taller than Arnine
Near the end of the movie the Predator picks Arnie up by his throat and raises him up so their looking eye ball to eye ball and Arnies boots are dangling around the Predators knees |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Jul 2005 : 00:01:52
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quote: Originally posted by Dargoth
Actually the Predators at least a foot taller than Arnine
Near the end of the movie the Predator picks Arnie up by his throat and raises him up so their looking eye ball to eye ball and Arnies boots are dangling around the Predators knees
The knees are one foot or less from the ground, perhaps. *wink* or very swmall person was picked up. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 26 Jul 2005 : 00:13:30
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The Height of the knees is dependent on the height of the person. Arnie is over 6 feet tall and I reckon Kevin Peter Hall (The actor who plays the Predator) is close to 7 foot |
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Melfius
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 26 Jul 2005 : 00:18:08
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Regardless, 6 or 7 feet, it still falls well within the Medium range. |
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Edited by - Melfius on 26 Jul 2005 00:18:28 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 26 Jul 2005 : 00:26:37
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quote: Originally posted by Dargoth
The Height of the knees is dependent on the height of the person. Arnie is over 6 feet tall and I reckon Kevin Peter Hall (The actor who plays the Predator) is close to 7 foot
According to IMDB.com, the late Kevin Peter Hall was 7'2˝". Still Medium. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 26 Jul 2005 : 00:43:22
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quote: Originally posted by warlockco
I would be inclined to say Medium (at the top end) instead of Large, and give them the Powerful-Build quality that the Goliaths and Half-Giants have.
Hmm thats an idea |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 03 Aug 2005 : 14:44:22
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quote: Originally posted by warlockco
I would be inclined to say Medium (at the top end) instead of Large, and give them the Powerful-Build quality that the Goliaths and Half-Giants have.
That's a great idea. I would consider Predators medium creatures, I don't think they are large enough to warrant AC penalties or have reach. I like the Powerful Build quality, it is perfect for situations like this where a race is significantly larger and stronger than humans, but not large enough to be considered "large."
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GRYPHON
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 16 Jan 2008 : 05:57:22
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I would say Medium... |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 16 Jan 2008 : 07:59:21
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Now where did you find this one hidden Gryphon? Medium would be my late answer. Or maybe raw? |
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GRYPHON
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 16 Jan 2008 : 10:03:52
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It kind of just jumped out and bit me...as I was blindly wandering about the Halls... |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 16 Jan 2008 : 10:59:33
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My initial thought was medium - going by the movies really. However, the arguements found here supported that first thought of mine. So my vote is out and it goes to medium.
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BlackDragonKarameikos
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 13 May 2008 : 14:17:42
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I have to say large as well. The actor that actually played the original Predator(in the movie with Arnold) was 7' 4" if I remember correctly(which is why he was hired for the part, they wanted someone that was taller than Arnold). |
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