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Thelonius
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 Posted - 12 Jul 2005 : 21:10:51
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Maybe this has been alredy asked but I haven't been able to find it, I am interested in the way that the time stop spell works, it stops the "whole" time, I mean ALL Toril remains freezed as the spell works or is zone located...
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Kentinal
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Posted - 12 Jul 2005 : 21:23:12
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| " This spell seems to make time cease to flow for everyone but you. In fact, you speed up so greatly that all other creatures seem frozen, though they are actually still moving at their normal speeds." |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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tauster
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Posted - 13 Jul 2005 : 08:29:23
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Originally posted by Kentinal
" This spell seems to make time cease to flow for everyone but you. In fact, you speed up so greatly that all other creatures seem frozen, though they are actually still moving at their normal speeds."
hmmm... thatīs a perspective i seem to have completely overlooked:
timestop as "advanced haste"-spell...
maybe i should dust off chronomancy (2e accessory, highly recommended for all time-manipulating magic) and read it again... |
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Thelonius
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Posted - 14 Jul 2005 : 10:44:49
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| Ok, now I am lost, so the time stop spells "ultra" hastes you? |
"If you are to truly understand, then you will need the contrast, not adherence to a single ideal." - Kreia
"I THINK I JUST HAD ANOTHER NEAR-RINCEWIND EXPERIENCE"- Discworld's Death frustrated after Rincewind scapes his grasp... again.
"I am death, come for thee" - Nimbul, from Baldur's Gate I just before being badly spanked
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 14 Jul 2005 : 11:20:24
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Originally posted by Thelonius Andrass
Ok, now I am lost, so the time stop spells "ultra" hastes you?
Yup. You're moving so much faster than everyone else that time appears to have stopped for them. |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 14 Jul 2005 : 14:07:32
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It should be noted, the current version of time stop is what has been provided as an answer.
In 2nd Edition it was different.
"Upon casting a time stop spell, the wizard causes the flow of time to stop for one round in the area of effect. Outside this area the sphere simply seems to shimmer for an instant. Inside the sphere, the caster is free to act for 1d3 rounds of apparent time. The wizard can move and act freely within the area where time is stopped, but all other creatures, except for those of demigod and greater status or unique creatures, are frozen in their actions, for they are literally between ticks of the time clock. " |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 14 Jul 2005 : 17:34:11
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Originally posted by Kentinal
It should be noted, the current version of time stop is what has been provided as an answer.
In 2nd Edition it was different.
"Upon casting a time stop spell, the wizard causes the flow of time to stop for one round in the area of effect. Outside this area the sphere simply seems to shimmer for an instant. Inside the sphere, the caster is free to act for 1d3 rounds of apparent time. The wizard can move and act freely within the area where time is stopped, but all other creatures, except for those of demigod and greater status or unique creatures, are frozen in their actions, for they are literally between ticks of the time clock. "
I prefer the 3E version. It's more believable. |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 14 Jul 2005 : 17:59:42
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I prefer the 3E version. It's more believable.
As you perfer so be it.
The question asked however might have been driven by a 2nd Edition novel/rules set. There was not content enough in the question so I did reply with the most current rule set. As Thelonius appeared to be surprised by the answers, I thought it might be of use to provide the 2nd Edition material to hopefully remove confusion. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon |
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe
Spain
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Posted - 16 Jul 2005 : 20:23:38
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Originally posted by Kentinal
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I prefer the 3E version. It's more believable.
As you perfer so be it.
The question asked however might have been driven by a 2nd Edition novel/rules set. There was not content enough in the question so I did reply with the most current rule set. As Thelonius appeared to be surprised by the answers, I thought it might be of use to provide the 2nd Edition material to hopefully remove confusion.
Indeed I thank you for the details of the 2E material. Any notice why they changed the way it worked? |
"If you are to truly understand, then you will need the contrast, not adherence to a single ideal." - Kreia
"I THINK I JUST HAD ANOTHER NEAR-RINCEWIND EXPERIENCE"- Discworld's Death frustrated after Rincewind scapes his grasp... again.
"I am death, come for thee" - Nimbul, from Baldur's Gate I just before being badly spanked
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Kentinal
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Posted - 16 Jul 2005 : 21:28:48
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Originally posted by Thelonius Andrass
Indeed I thank you for the details of the 2E material. Any notice why they changed the way it worked?
Because they could? There were bugs/probl3ems in 2nd that the design team tried to correct in 3rd. The best guess is that like Wooly Rupert they perfered a more believable explaination of how the spell worked. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 16 Jul 2005 : 22:13:20
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Originally posted by Kentinal
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Originally posted by Thelonius Andrass
Indeed I thank you for the details of the 2E material. Any notice why they changed the way it worked?
Because they could? There were bugs/probl3ems in 2nd that the design team tried to correct in 3rd. The best guess is that like Wooly Rupert they perfered a more believable explaination of how the spell worked.
That's likely it... Because, if you think about it, super-charging yourself is a lot easier than stopping the flow of time in an area. |
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Thelonius
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Posted - 17 Jul 2005 : 18:23:35
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| It seems logical to me. That's what caught my atention, I couldn't believe the power necessary to stop the whole flow of time. |
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"I THINK I JUST HAD ANOTHER NEAR-RINCEWIND EXPERIENCE"- Discworld's Death frustrated after Rincewind scapes his grasp... again.
"I am death, come for thee" - Nimbul, from Baldur's Gate I just before being badly spanked
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