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TymoraChosen
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 Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 10:59:48
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Hello everyone, I have been doing some research on elven high magic and the high magic rituals as well as the elven High Magic Mythal, is there any information about the rituals of High Magic or about the High Magic Mythal?
Also, I heard that the High Moor on Faerun was created by destructive elven high magics, am I right?
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 11:08:44
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Hmm, researching on elven high magic? Very volatile magic and very devastating if use wrongly.
well, a High Mage given great cause, could turn lakes into dust bowls and set the very air around him on fire to thus lay waste to enemies of the Tel’Quessir. Even they could shatter the avatars of the gods.
The High Moor is believed to had been caused by a spell called Mormhaor’Sykerylor or in common is called the "Killing Storm". This is a high magic ritual of Myriad and refered as "Miyeritar’s Bane". The High Moor is enough evidence to illustrate that this magic is not to be summoned ever again. In fact, the elves tend to pay attention to the wizards talk in Faerun, when even a hint has emerged of a mage considering casting a killing storm, that mage will be dead within a tenday and his book and notes of such magic destroyed or confiscated.
Seven Netheril arcanists bought their coffins by attempting such magic spell and the elves are very secretive about the spellwork as well as a variation of it since the ending of the third crown war. |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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Defender
Acolyte
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 11:12:50
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| Given the power of elven high magic, if a human or undead lich knows how to cast High Magic, well we certainly can expect another Realm-shaking event, hmm, I wonder what will happen if the Shadovar gets its hands on such kind of power. |
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silvermage
Seeker
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 11:16:51
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| The Netherese nearly became invincible in magic when they got their hands on the 100 Nether Scrolls. If the Shadovar were to cast high magic, i think they can forget about reading the Nether Scrolls and begin a glorious conquest of Faerun with such nearly RSE power. Telamont would surely like to enhance shadow magics with High Magics, who knows one day we will see The Shadovar conquering Faerun with their newfound powers in a upcoming novel. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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StromLancer
Acolyte
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 11:44:47
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There is one particular ritual: The Ritual of Myriad.
These are the most powerful magics cast by mortals; while the humans contest this .The Myriad rituals of High Magic are the titanic sorceries of which legends are born, and woe upon the enemy who forces the elves to unleash these forces.
Rituals of Myriad require a team of at least five High Mages at the casting’s center, in the identical manner used in Rituals of Complement, with all the attendant dangers and protocols. Myriad-level High Magic takes far more time to cast, due to many factors. Extended preparation and purification rites open the ceremonies, and these cleansings take nearly as long as a Ritual of Complement in itself. Once the site of the central casting and all the extended casting sites for all the other secondary casters are purified and readied, there is a delicate opening liturgy cast by the central caster (Center) that links the secondary (and any subordinate or link spporters) to the Center at the spell’s center. Once all five (or most often, nine, with a quartet of tertiary High Mages casting a supporting rite) casters are linked and focused, the casting of the ritual actually begins. Depending on the ritual, Myriad High Magic can occur in as little as three hours or could last from dawn until dusk of the following day.
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Adarin
Acolyte
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 11:47:02
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| Surely there must be some kind of support for such ritual of Myriad to be conducted, any details on such support? |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 11:51:39
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| There are indeed supporters for such rituals, High Mages often get diviners to foretell and forewarn them of major portents and events to come. While High Magic was never intended to be used for combat often, it best serves the elves by carefully marshaling power when needed. Myriad rituals draw upon a great amount of power and are massively taxing upon all the casters of the ritual - draining for the secondary and tertiary casters and potentially life-threatening for the Center. Therefore, many of the Myriad rituals allow the casters to draw upon energy and mental support from normal elf wizards who volunteer to passively join the link and freely offer up energy (and spell memory) to sustain and bolster the High Mages. This allows the High Mages the luxury to concentrate on the ritual without having to worry about keeping their bodies functioning. The support from these volunteers further grants the secondary casters the freedom to monitor and adjust the major working of the Center; for example, when casting a mythal, the Center weaves the primary framework, but the secondary casters determine its final breadth and many effects. Without the energy of their brethren, none of the casters could afford the attention to finer points, and High Magic would be far rougher. Finally, from the supporters’ point of view, it allows many normal elves a chance to participate in a magic they don’t normally experience everyday. |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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FreezeChaser
Acolyte
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 11:56:01
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Hmm, I heard that there are many advantages to High Magic which I heard there was one particular spell that "accidentally" allowed the creation of Evermeet. What kind of spell is this that is so Realm destroying?
Surely during a High Magic ritual, there are some wards to prevent spies or intrusion, what are they? |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
785 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 11:59:11
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Originally posted by FreezeChaser
Hmm, I heard that there are many advantages to High Magic which I heard there was one particular spell that "accidentally" allowed the creation of Evermeet. What kind of spell is this that is so Realm destroying?
Surely during a High Magic ritual, there are some wards to prevent spies or intrusion, what are they?
There is indeed such a spell, the elves call it Uaul’Selu’Keryth, or otherwise known as The Sundering or At war with the Weave, requires the power and sacrifice of the lives of the High Mages involved in the spell. It is a potential RDS (Realm Destroying Spell). |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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Carion Hunter
Acolyte
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 12:03:12
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| All right, lets take this topic one level up! Hey, Shadovar, surely you know some details about this RDS(Realm Destroying Spell). Spill the beans. |
Wanna throw me out? You gotta think thrice about that. |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
785 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 12:06:27
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Originally posted by Carion Hunter
All right, lets take this topic one level up! Hey, Shadovar, surely you know some details about this RDS(Realm Destroying Spell). Spill the beans.
The Mormhaor’Sykerylor or Killing Storm is an good example of what is an RDS(Realm Destroying Spell), I heard that there is a lesser form of such spell and a dynamic form as well. But the dynamic form is very dangerous, even the lesser form can cause some serious damage. |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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silverpriestess
Acolyte
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 12:09:37
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| Hmm, can anyone explain what are the effects of the spell called the Sundering? |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
785 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 12:13:51
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Well..sigh. The lesser form of the spell called the Sundering or Uaul’Selu’Keryth, actually disrupts all magic for miles around and causes great turmoil in weather and animal life, thunderstorms, earthquakes, dead magic, animal stampedes, and tornadoes are some examples.
The dynamic form results with the Weave being temporarily torn asunder, and the damage is manifested in major cataclysms and storms, tidal waves, and permanent changes to the lands of any planet. But the High Mages only do this when they are desperate and have no alternative. |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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silvermage
Seeker
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 12:16:06
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| I heard there are high magics that can transform a elf into a human, what is it called? |
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StromLancer
Acolyte
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 12:19:24
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Aye, there is! But a very fascinating spell it is, it is called the Akh’Faen’Tel’Quess or in common means Life of Duty, Form of the People’s Need. This is actually a ritual, alters the form of an elf into any living elf race or subrace. It also allows for transformation into human, dwarf, avariel, or even a dhaeraow or drow. The ritual is permanent until a second ritual is performed to revert the elf to his original form, or upon death (which happens slowly over 1 to 12 hours).
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Lead the war fate commands you to!
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Carion Hunter
Acolyte
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 12:23:51
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| wait, FreezChaser mentioned there are wards present during a high magic casting, what are they? Any information? |
Wanna throw me out? You gotta think thrice about that. |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 12:27:48
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| Yes, there are but sure to kill if a intruder intrudes on such a spellcasting. Such wards prevents all interruptions and intrusions (physical, magical, psionic, or other) within the area of casting that are not part of the casting. But there are ways to breach the wards without risking death, one by the caster or through High Magic, the second, if one possess a item that grants wish spells, perhaps one can make a wish to breach the wards safely. |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 17:19:25
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Originally posted by Shadovar
Well..sigh. The lesser form of the spell called the Sundering or Uaul’Selu’Keryth, actually disrupts all magic for miles around and causes great turmoil in weather and animal life, thunderstorms, earthquakes, dead magic, animal stampedes, and tornadoes are some examples.
The dynamic form results with the Weave being temporarily torn asunder, and the damage is manifested in major cataclysms and storms, tidal waves, and permanent changes to the lands of any planet. But the High Mages only do this when they are desperate and have no alternative.
Or, to put it a bit more simply... Before the casting of that spell, Faerûn was one land, and Evermeet didn't exist. After the casting, Faerûn had been broken into smaller chunks, cities had been destroyed, and Evermeet existed. |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 17:57:20
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It also helped that the ritual was cast by 200+ high mages, while the normal Sundering ritual needs only 9. By the way, since no one's mentioned it, all of the information here is contained in the Cormanthyr sourcebook, which is out there in digital format (not sure if it's free or you have to pay for it).
By the way, did you know that a high mage not only imposes a -2 penalty to the saving throws of all their spells cast, but also adds their age in feet to the range of all spells? (That's when they decided to cast ordinary wizard spells and not high magic, though in my campaign I've removed the restriction that they can cast one or the other but not both at the same time). |
Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 19:20:07
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Originally posted by Hoondatha
By the way, since no one's mentioned it, all of the information here is contained in the Cormanthyr sourcebook, which is out there in digital format (not sure if it's free or you have to pay for it).
It's apparently a product that would have a cost to it. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 20:01:25
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Hoondatha
By the way, since no one's mentioned it, all of the information here is contained in the Cormanthyr sourcebook, which is out there in digital format (not sure if it's free or you have to pay for it).
It's apparently a product that would have a cost to it.
And yet it's on the free download list:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 20:41:46
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Appears to be strange and posible copyright voilation, unless WotC licesnce the sale while still willing to provide individual copies to people that can navigate their site.
Edit: Direct URL to start free download is http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/2/fr_downloads/tsr1165.zip at least today. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Kajehase
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 21:51:16
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Hoondatha
By the way, since no one's mentioned it, all of the information here is contained in the Cormanthyr sourcebook, which is out there in digital format (not sure if it's free or you have to pay for it).
It's apparently a product that would have a cost to it.
And yet it's on the free download list:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads
Well thank Deneir for that, I was getting worried about how it'd ended up on my hard-drive... |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Jun 2005 : 22:04:43
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Originally posted by Kajehase
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Originally posted by Kuje
And yet it's on the free download list:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads
Well thank Deneir for that, I was getting worried about how it'd ended up on my hard-drive...
It should be noted that some free downloads were reported to have been transfered to the outsourced paid downloads . Time stamp might matter in some cases. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon |
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sabre
Acolyte
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Posted - 10 Jun 2005 : 10:10:38
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| You can find info about mythals and elven high magic as well as elven high mage prestige class in Lost Empires of Fearun. |
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Defender
Acolyte
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Posted - 10 Jun 2005 : 10:26:28
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| Well, not everyone have acesss nor a copy of that material as some of us including myself are hampered by technical difficulties so it is hard for people like us who lacked the material. |
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Hammerfist
Acolyte
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Posted - 10 Jun 2005 : 11:14:13
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| Alright, now let see......can i ask what is this, Evaliir’Enevahr and Ol’Iirtal’Eithun? |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 10 Jun 2005 : 11:27:55
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Originally posted by Hammerfist
Alright, now let see......can i ask what is this, Evaliir’Enevahr and Ol’Iirtal’Eithun?
Hmm...lets translate those words. Am i right to say my translation of those elven words to be correct?
Evaliir’Enevahr-The Song of Enevahr (in common)
Ol’Iirtal’Eithun-Flights of True Mark, Arrows of Art (in common)
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We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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StromLancer
Acolyte
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Posted - 10 Jun 2005 : 11:48:26
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Hmm, in addition to what Shadovar posted earlier about the two elven words, here something more about them.
Flights of True Mark, Arrows of Art: This ritual imbues a quiver of 20 arrows with one effect noted below. These enchantments last for 24 hours after the completion of the hour-long ceremony and the arrows’ effects can only be canceled by wish and limited wish spells.
Dispel arrows-which upon contact with a specified magical field or effect, canceling the effect as if an archmage had dispelled.
Snuff arrows, which extinguish normal fires and halve the effects of magical fires.
Eagles’ Mark arrows-act as magic missiles, homing in unerringly to strike a target. It only allows for two such arrows to strike a target, but these are used commonly to break enemy charges.
Targeting arrows -crackle an ominous purple, and a minute after striking a target, all elven mages who know a key word named by the casting High Mage automatically target that being for their spells, regardless of whether the target is within the spell’s range. This allows mages to launch spells into battle without worry of interfering with or affecting their own troops or spellcasters.
Message arrows -are used to deliver a message of 30 words or less to a target. It is commonly used to call out an elven war cry to a routed enemy or to battle-trapped elves to show that reinforcements are on the way.
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Carion Hunter
Acolyte
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Posted - 10 Jun 2005 : 11:50:49
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| Ahem! Pardon, an extra question, how about this, what is Saloh’Cint’Nias? |
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High Magic of the Elves
