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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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 Posted - 05 Jun 2005 : 17:48:14
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I must admit my judgement is impared as I am not feeling well this morning, but since my favorite board (this one!) has been a bit slow, I started cruising the "other" boards (you know . . . the "official one").
I got embroiled in a discussion on how an epic level party could take over Waterdeep, and the master plan was to gather an orc horde, a bunch of yugoloths, and tiamat, and go at it. The pedigree of the party involved is "they kicked a couple of LeShay's butts."
After a few lucid posters mentioned a few problems with the overt assault, the original poster finally chimed in with his thanks for someone that responded that he should get some krakens to attack the docks too.
Then he told us that he wanted advice how to do it, not why it wouldn't work.
Sigh . . .
I love you guys! Never let me out of Candlekeep again!
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 05 Jun 2005 : 18:27:56
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I must admit my judgement is impared as I am not feeling well this morning, but since my favorite board (this one!) has been a bit slow, I started cruising the "other" boards (you know . . . the "official one").
I got embroiled in a discussion on how an epic level party could take over Waterdeep, and the master plan was to gather an orc horde, a bunch of yugoloths, and tiamat, and go at it. The pedigree of the party involved is "they kicked a couple of LeShay's butts."
After a few lucid posters mentioned a few problems with the overt assault, the original poster finally chimed in with his thanks for someone that responded that he should get some krakens to attack the docks too.
Then he told us that he wanted advice how to do it, not why it wouldn't work.
Sigh . . .
I love you guys! Never let me out of Candlekeep again!
Impressive. Looks like the things I have heard about "that other board" are true. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2005 : 18:33:20
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I think there is a symbol of insanity hidden on the login page, and those of use that post here have managed to gain a circumstance bonus against it . . .
That or we are just a hidden treasure! (Thanks Alaundo!) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2005 : 19:40:16
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I must admit my judgement is impared as I am not feeling well this morning, but since my favorite board (this one!) has been a bit slow, I started cruising the "other" boards (you know . . . the "official one").
I got embroiled in a discussion on how an epic level party could take over Waterdeep, and the master plan was to gather an orc horde, a bunch of yugoloths, and tiamat, and go at it. The pedigree of the party involved is "they kicked a couple of LeShay's butts."
After a few lucid posters mentioned a few problems with the overt assault, the original poster finally chimed in with his thanks for someone that responded that he should get some krakens to attack the docks too.
Then he told us that he wanted advice how to do it, not why it wouldn't work.
Sigh . . .
I love you guys! Never let me out of Candlekeep again!
I got embroiled in a similar discussion, shortly before my banning...
This guy was running a party that included a couple of gods, and he decided that not only was he going to take out some of what he called "Ed Greenwood's sacred cows" (the Chosen of Mystra), but that his guys were also going to be taking on the gods and winning.
It started off as a call for advice: what would happen if several specific Chosen were taken out. As the time, the über-munchiness of what was intended was not obvious, so I gave it an analytical response.
Soon after that, it became clear what this guy intended. I joined in the chorus of why it wouldn't happen. It didn't matter to this guy. The gods would let themselves be bumped off, because they were too scared to fight and for some inexplicable reason wouldn't join forces, and Ao for another inexplicable reason wasn't doing anything about it...
The last straw came with the guy attacked everyone who said his plot wouldn't happen. He was very abusive, and his language should have gotten his butt kicked from the forums. Of course, the heavy-handed and arbitrary mods let it slide...
I went back thru the thread, and everywhere that I had posted advice, I edited the post to read that I wasn't going to help someone who was going to ignore freely given advice and attack anyone who disagreed with him. After that, I ignored the thread.
I also had several arguments with people who were convinced that any FR movie had to feature Drizzt, and that it would be a guaranteed blockbuster. I got so tired of that argument that after the third such one, I compiled all of my posts on that topic into an essay on why it was a bad idea to make a Drizzt movie, or indeed any FR movie adapting an already-written novel.
I've seen a couple of threads over here where people were so enamored of an idea of theirs that they were willing to ignore reasons it wouldn't work... But only a couple, and it's never been as bad as it was over there.
After my banning from the WotC forums, I decided that even though I could return under a different name, I would not do so. I decided that I would not return until my good name was restored, and I had received an apology from the mods for my wrongful banning. Since I can't even get BigSis to admit that a mistake *might* have been made, that's not going to happen (I can't even find out what my third alleged offense was!). But you know what? I don't care. Why be on a forum filled with people like that, when you can be over here with the creators and the fans who actually care about the setting?
The WotC forums are good for three things: learning what forums shouldn't be like, containing those people who care about power and not the setting, and for following a dedicated few from that place to this one.  |
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VEDSICA
Senior Scribe
USA
466 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2005 : 20:39:09
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Still bellyaching about your banning I see Wools !!!!Sorry I couldn't let it slide.Anywho I absolutely agree with what you say about "the other board"!!!Too many folk seemed not to care about the setting.Only to take it over to their liking.Though unfortunately one persons Realms is not the same as anothers. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2005 : 20:54:21
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Well
I'm still floating around those boards but it's mostly to see how long it takes for them to ban me. :) I've had 4 or 5 threats of that nature but they've yet to do anything. :) |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
1695 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2005 : 21:57:51
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Originally posted by Kuje
Well
I'm still floating around those boards but it's mostly to see how long it takes for them to ban me. :) I've had 4 or 5 threats of that nature but they've yet to do anything. :)
Yeah, and Kuje knows that I have tried to get some warning recently, but seems no one is biting over there.  
There are a good number of people over there that have some pretty farfetched plans. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 01:23:33
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 02:28:42
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Originally posted by Kuje
Well
I'm still floating around those boards but it's mostly to see how long it takes for them to ban me. :) I've had 4 or 5 threats of that nature but they've yet to do anything. :)
Hehe... I just received my forth warning yesterday evening. That'll teach me to get involved in a discussion that involves criticising RAS apparently recent lack of creativity...  .
I don't think I'll last the month somehow... .
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 02:44:36
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I must admit my judgement is impared as I am not feeling well this morning, but since my favorite board (this one!) has been a bit slow, I started cruising the "other" boards (you know . . . the "official one").
I got embroiled in a discussion on how an epic level party could take over Waterdeep, and the master plan was to gather an orc horde, a bunch of yugoloths, and tiamat, and go at it. The pedigree of the party involved is "they kicked a couple of LeShay's butts."
After a few lucid posters mentioned a few problems with the overt assault, the original poster finally chimed in with his thanks for someone that responded that he should get some krakens to attack the docks too.
Then he told us that he wanted advice how to do it, not why it wouldn't work.
Sigh . . .
I love you guys! Never let me out of Candlekeep again!
I'm sure right now he's developing plans for the krakens' attack that involves each of them wielding a moonblade with a scimitar wielding dark elf by their side. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 02:46:41
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Originally posted by Kuje
Well
I'm still floating around those boards but it's mostly to see how long it takes for them to ban me. :) I've had 4 or 5 threats of that nature but they've yet to do anything. :)
Isn't the use of the "n-word" enough to do the trick? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 03:17:06
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Isn't the use of the "n-word" enough to do the trick?
I don't bring that taboo word up any more. :) |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 03:19:19
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Originally posted by The SageHehe... I just received my forth warning yesterday evening. That'll teach me to get involved in a discussion that involves criticising RAS apparently recent lack of creativity... .
I don't think I'll last the month somehow... .
HAHAHA. That's funny. :)
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For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 03:27:17
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It interesting to me that if a remotely similar topic was brought up, the following would likely happen.
1. The PCs trying to take over Waterdeep would not likely come up with a plan that revolved around recruiting armies of monsters and gods to throw at the City of Splendors. They would likely realize that a plan would have to be long term and more subtle, especially if they wanted to rule and not just raze (one of the lucid members of the board brought up an alliance with the Shadow Thieves. The original poster ignored this particular bit of advice, since it didn't involve the full frontal).
2. Even if they had their hearts set on taking over the city, they would likely want to hear what their fellow scribes had to say about how the city is likely to be defended, and realize that such examples would be in keeping with the setting, not to "ruin their fun."
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 11:19:46
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
It interesting to me that if a remotely similar topic was brought up, the following would likely happen.
1. The PCs trying to take over Waterdeep would not likely come up with a plan that revolved around recruiting armies of monsters and gods to throw at the City of Splendors. They would likely realize that a plan would have to be long term and more subtle, especially if they wanted to rule and not just raze (one of the lucid members of the board brought up an alliance with the Shadow Thieves. The original poster ignored this particular bit of advice, since it didn't involve the full frontal).
One thing to note about your experience with this WOTC message boarder....IMHO, there's your consumer that WOTC is appealing to whenever they produce a crunch heavy product.
Not that there's anything wrong with crunch heavy consumers as long as my sister doesn't marry one. |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 18:15:41
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
It interesting to me that if a remotely similar topic was brought up, the following would likely happen.
1. The PCs trying to take over Waterdeep would not likely come up with a plan that revolved around recruiting armies of monsters and gods to throw at the City of Splendors. They would likely realize that a plan would have to be long term and more subtle, especially if they wanted to rule and not just raze (one of the lucid members of the board brought up an alliance with the Shadow Thieves. The original poster ignored this particular bit of advice, since it didn't involve the full frontal).
One thing to note about your experience with this WOTC message boarder....IMHO, there's your consumer that WOTC is appealing to whenever they produce a crunch heavy product.
Not that there's anything wrong with crunch heavy consumers as long as my sister doesn't marry one.
I guess this poor guy had just bought 'Heroes of Battle' and tried to implement all its content in his campaign?
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 18:20:19
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I got embroiled in a discussion on how an epic level party could take over Waterdeep, and the master plan was to gather an orc horde, a bunch of yugoloths, and tiamat, and go at it. The pedigree of the party involved is "they kicked a couple of LeShay's butts."
After a few lucid posters mentioned a few problems with the overt assault, the original poster finally chimed in with his thanks for someone that responded that he should get some krakens to attack the docks too.
Then he told us that he wanted advice how to do it, not why it wouldn't work.
Sigh . . .
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Tiamat?  |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 20:16:48
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I got embroiled in a discussion on how an epic level party could take over Waterdeep, and the master plan was to gather an orc horde, a bunch of yugoloths, and tiamat, and go at it. The pedigree of the party involved is "they kicked a couple of LeShay's butts."
After a few lucid posters mentioned a few problems with the overt assault, the original poster finally chimed in with his thanks for someone that responded that he should get some krakens to attack the docks too.
Then he told us that he wanted advice how to do it, not why it wouldn't work.
Sigh . . .
I love you guys! Never let me out of Candlekeep again!
Tiamat?
They`ll probably throw in Hlal and Bahamut too....... |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
1695 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 03:53:22
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Originally posted by khorne
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I got embroiled in a discussion on how an epic level party could take over Waterdeep, and the master plan was to gather an orc horde, a bunch of yugoloths, and tiamat, and go at it. The pedigree of the party involved is "they kicked a couple of LeShay's butts."
After a few lucid posters mentioned a few problems with the overt assault, the original poster finally chimed in with his thanks for someone that responded that he should get some krakens to attack the docks too.
Then he told us that he wanted advice how to do it, not why it wouldn't work.
Sigh . . .
I love you guys! Never let me out of Candlekeep again!
Tiamat?
They`ll probably throw in Hlal and Bahamut too.......
So does that mean I can Summon an Avatar of Null to level out the playing field?  |
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Neo2151
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 07:48:00
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Originally posted by warlockco
So does that mean I can Summon an Avatar of Null to level out the playing field?
Oh come now, think more on this person's level. BIGGER! Ya gotta have his party force Talos to rain down destruction on the city until it's willing to surrender... then rain down more destruction, kill off any last survivors (including Talos himself, he might get greedy ::nods:: ), and take the rest of what's left as yours.  Oh yes, and somehow, Drizzt will be in the city and mysteriously, he'll have lived! Yay, now they make friends with Drizzt and continue with their plans... i'm sorry... i'll stop now. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 08:58:21
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Originally posted by Neo2151
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Originally posted by warlockco
So does that mean I can Summon an Avatar of Null to level out the playing field?
Oh come now, think more on this person's level. BIGGER! Ya gotta have his party force Talos to rain down destruction on the city until it's willing to surrender... then rain down more destruction, kill off any last survivors (including Talos himself, he might get greedy ::nods:: ), and take the rest of what's left as yours. Oh yes, and somehow, Drizzt will be in the city and mysteriously, he'll have lived! Yay, now they make friends with Drizzt and continue with their plans... i'm sorry... i'll stop now.
Ah, I see now. Must use the Epic Spell "Summon Blood War" and bring the Blood War to Waterdeep, and watch the Fiends rip it apart. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 11:53:45
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
I guess this poor guy had just bought 'Heroes of Battle' and tried to implement all its content in his campaign?
Just wait til he gets ahold of Weapons of Legacy....Silverymoon doesn't have a chance then. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 13:56:07
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Hey, I just racked up another warning... This time in the DL forum. It seems that the "n" word is becoming as much of a taboo there as it is in the FR forums .
At this rate, I probably won't last the week...
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 17:06:04
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Originally posted by The Sage
Hey, I just racked up another warning... This time in the DL forum. It seems that the "n" word is becoming as much of a taboo there as it is in the FR forums .
At this rate, I probably won't last the week...
People who read novels are obviously the biggest troublemakers over there. |
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Aelf
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 17:19:13
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I must be an ignoramus in addition to a newbie, but might someone, praytell, explain the 'n' word?
Regards,
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 17:53:26
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Originally posted by Aelf
I must be an ignoramus in addition to a newbie, but might someone, praytell, explain the 'n' word?
Regards,
Aelf, a bard of the realms
About a year and a half or two years ago, the Novel section of the FR forums on the WotC site was shut down. At that time, discussing novels was prohibited. The official rule was that you could make references to novels in response to questions, but you could not actually discuss the novel itself.
In actuality, though, pretty much any mention of a novel was enough to net a warning. One of the warnings I received before my banning was for discussing novels -- all I had done was reply to a post where someone had said they'd like to see Skip Williams write a novel.
Since they come down so hard on anyone even mentioning novels, it's become something of a joke over here. Hence the "n-word" references. |
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VEDSICA
Senior Scribe
USA
466 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 23:04:11
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| Correct.One warning is all it took for me.I complained,and was told tough.If I didn't like it.Don't come back.All because we like having discussions about NOVELS...I haven't been to the boards that shall remain nameless since.... |
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LordAnki
Seeker
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Posted - 08 Jun 2005 : 01:10:33
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| I remember "THOSE" forums. The forums that shall not be named. I think I also got banned because i asked "What order should I read the Drizzt novels in?" Okay I don't think I got banned but I got warned. But people started pointing me to Candlekeep and I showed up here and wow havn't left since. |
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Setepsutekh
Acolyte
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Posted - 08 Jun 2005 : 01:47:29
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| I much prefer this serene place full of FR enlightenment to that pit of stubborness, munchkinism, and plain stupidity. There are times when I would like to see the Lady of Pain moderate that place instead hehehe . |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 08 Jun 2005 : 02:02:01
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Originally posted by VEDSICA
Correct.One warning is all it took for me.I complained,and was told tough.If I didn't like it.Don't come back.All because we like having discussions about NOVELS...I haven't been to the boards that shall remain nameless since....
To me, it appears that the number of warnings you receive is relative to the time you've been registered on the WotC forums.
I've been registered since September 2001. Whereas I've known forum posters who registered late last year or early this year, and have chalked up only one warning, and then they were banned... whereas I've now received three.
Curious.
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Boy was that a stupid side trip
