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Prince Forge of Avalon
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 31 May 2005 : 06:37:24
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 31 May 2005 : 06:37:57
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Originally posted by Prince Forge of Avalon
Whats EBoN?
The Everchanging Book of Names. :) Do a internet search for it. :)
And for the record, I couldn't live without that program either. I have a Hells of a time coming up with FR names and it helps. :)
http://ebon.pyorre.net/
And I'll agree with Kuje. This is an extremely handy piece of shareware to have around during long-term campaigns.
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2005 : 06:40:40
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Kam,
Finished it last night. Most excellent!
Of especial enjoyment to me was the way you kept the characters at manageable levels of power. In game terms, Ythnel couldn't have been much higher than 4th or 5th level -- maybe -- and in novel terms, it meant that she didn't do huge epic things like confront the werecrocodile elders directly or wage war, single-handedly, with Luthcheq. This contributed to a real fear for her character -- you never knew when some monster would lunge out of the shadows and slay her with a swipe or two, and when she was bluffing guards you became rather worried that she might fail.
Also, very convincing portrayal of an evil character. Ythnel didn't seem so evil for most of the book -- perhaps a couple of wicked scenes. I found her most engaging. . . and quite funny, at times.
Oh, and. . .
And to think, I was so sure there would be a romance between Ythnel and the master of the house. Hmm. Guess I was wrong there. 
Well done. I look forward to the next one.
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'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 01 Jun 2005 : 13:11:44
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Kameron M. Franklin
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
228 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2005 : 16:45:59
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Kam,
Finished it last night. Most excellent!
Of especial enjoyment to me was the way you kept the characters at manageable levels of power. In game terms, Ythnel couldn't have been much higher than 4th or 5th level -- maybe -- and in novel terms, it meant that she didn't do huge epic things like confront the werecrocodile elders directly or wage war, single-handedly, with Luthcheq. This contributed to a real fear for her character -- you never knew when some monster would lunge out of the shadows and slay her with a swipe or two, and when she was bluffing guards you became rather worried that she might fail.
Also, very convincing portrayal of an evil character. Ythnel didn't seem so evil for most of the book -- perhaps a couple of wicked scenes. I found her most engaging. . . and quite funny, at times.
Oh, and. . .
And to think, I was so sure there would be a romance between Ythnel and the master of the house. Hmm. Guess I was wrong there.
Well done. I look forward to the next one.
Cheers
Thanks for the kind words, Erik. I envisioned Ythnel around 3rd level when I was outlining the book, but 4th would probably work as well. I really wanted to go for that novice/vulnerable feel. Glad it came through.
As someone mentioned earlier, Ythnel is "lawful neutral" in game terms. I didn't want to gloss over the evils of her religion, but I also wanted her to be sympathetic. Pitting her against people who were "more" evil helped as well.
In the first draft of my excerpt for the open call, I alluded to a possible romance between Ythnel and Prisus. I took it out because I didn't think their personalities--and the short time they had together--would allow for a hookup. Kestus was a much better matchup. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 01 Jun 2005 : 17:59:02
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Originally posted by Kameron M. Franklin
In the first draft of my excerpt for the open call, I alluded to a possible romance between Ythnel and Prisus. I took it out because I didn't think their personalities--and the short time they had together--would allow for a hookup. Kestus was a much better matchup.
Cool. I half-expected a Kestus / Ythnel romance, and I like the way you handled it. Rather than just outright attraction / fullblown relationship, it was more "left hanging" in the face of greater concerns.
I also got the sense that Kestus was only about half attracted to Ythnel -- in the scene where she's got the illusion on and they interact, it seemed that he was only really attracted to her articially good looks, so I said to myself: "Bah. Loser!"
Until the end, that is, when there's that little unspoken question hanging between them, and Kestus was redeemed in my eyes. Well handled.
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'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2005 : 21:28:07
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Smyther
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 01 Jun 2005 : 23:24:54
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Originally posted by Kuje
And for the record, I couldn't live without that program either. I have a Hells of a time coming up with FR names and it helps. :)
Really? If there's one thing I never have troubles with, its names.
Still, I'm having a look at EBoN right now, just to see what it can do for me.
In an aside, I'd like to comment that I'm glad the book didn't have a 'romance' as such in it. There are too many books out there that are tainted by a sappy and unneccessary (sp?) romance (think Drizzt and others) - I was put out a bit by the sex, but it only detracted a little from the overall novel. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 Jun 2005 : 23:38:02
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Originally posted by Smyther
Really? If there's one thing I never have troubles with, its names.
Still, I'm having a look at EBoN right now, just to see what it can do for me.
To me there are specific names that sound FRish and well I guess I just have a problem coming up with names. :) It's not the easiest thing to do, especially if it doesn't fit the character. |
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Kameron M. Franklin
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
228 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2005 : 23:44:16
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Originally posted by Smyther
In an aside, I'd like to comment that I'm glad the book didn't have a 'romance' as such in it. There are too many books out there that are tainted by a sappy and unneccessary (sp?) romance (think Drizzt and others) - I was put out a bit by the sex, but it only detracted a little from the overall novel.
Sex? In my book? Where? Sure, there were a couple inferences to sexual relations between some of the characters, but I don't think I even used the word "sex."  |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Smyther
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 06 Jun 2005 : 23:43:36
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Originally posted by Kameron M. Franklin
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Originally posted by Smyther
In an aside, I'd like to comment that I'm glad the book didn't have a 'romance' as such in it. There are too many books out there that are tainted by a sappy and unneccessary (sp?) romance (think Drizzt and others) - I was put out a bit by the sex, but it only detracted a little from the overall novel.
Sex? In my book? Where? Sure, there were a couple inferences to sexual relations between some of the characters, but I don't think I even used the word "sex."
Well, I do sorta feel dumb for saying that now - I take it back. I put it down in the heat of the moment; I was pretty frustrated at another writer's excessive use of sex, and I snapped out at you. |
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Kameron M. Franklin
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
228 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 01:11:25
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No hard feelings. Just wanted to make sure we were reading the same book.  |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 18:18:27
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Good author's bio too, Kam -- pretty concise, to the point, with some neat anecdotes. Yay for kindergarten!
Kam's Author Bio
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Originally posted by Smyther
I was pretty frustrated at another writer's excessive use of sex, and I snapped out at you.
*Ahem* What would be "excessive use" of sex? Just trying to get a handle on an acceptable level. (Hmm... not sure that came out the right way...  )
Smyther raises an interesting point: How was handling eroticism in Maiden of Pain? One would imagine that a priestess of Loviatar could be a lot more, well, sensual than Ythnel seemed to be (I know I halfway expected more sex). Did it come off as much as you intended -- more, less?
Cheers on the book
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Kameron M. Franklin
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
228 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 18:49:36
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Good author's bio too, Kam -- pretty concise, to the point, with some neat anecdotes. Yay for kindergarten!
Kam's Author Bio
Heh, I was worried it was too short, looking at other recent author profiles. I honestly couldn't find more to say. Must be the technical writer in me.
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Smyther raises an interesting point: How was handling eroticism in Maiden of Pain? One would imagine that a priestess of Loviatar could be a lot more, well, sensual than Ythnel seemed to be (I know I halfway expected more sex). Did it come off as much as you intended -- more, less?
Cheers on the book
When I was coming up with the idea back during the open call, I made the decision to distance myself from the obvious dominatrix parallels as a way to distinguish my story from the slush pile. I knew I couldn't escape it entirely, though.
I think Ythnel certainly displayed her ability to be sensual when she returned to Luthcheq. The story was more about her coming to terms with the tenets of her faith, so I didn't feel like sensuality or sexuality needed a prominent role. Loviatar's dogma is more pain-focused, and using one's sexuality is only one means to achieve that end.
I'm pleased with the way I handled it, as I feel it didn't compromise the realities of the Loviatan faith, the "PG-13" rating, or my own personal beliefs. |
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VEDSICA
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 29 Jun 2005 : 20:41:45
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| Kameron, excellent work my friend.You did a wonderful job,so congrats!!!I enjoyed your novel very much.It really wasn't this high level.Blast everything away,hack and slash novel.I also liked the way you stayed away from the dominatrix aspect.I was beginning to wonder when you were going to bring Aznar back into the fold.Though I do like the little part that he played.Ythnel was a good character.She seems to have good depth,and room to grow.Especailly with Kestus...Can someone explain to me what witchweed is,and what it does specifically.I kind of get the idea,but I want to know for sure. |
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Kameron M. Franklin
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 29 Jun 2005 : 21:03:17
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Thanks. I'm glad you liked it. Witchweed was originally introduced in the 2nd Ed supplement, FR10 Old Empires. I think it was tweaked slightly for 3E. I'll check my notes when I get home tonight and try to provide more details.
The gist of it, however, in 2E was that exposure prevented a wizard from casting spells. Extended exposure could kill. |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 Jun 2005 : 21:03:47
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Best I can find is
Witchweed stick
"When lit, creates a 10’ cube of light smoke (no concealment) for 5 rounds. Anyone casting a spell in the smoke must make a Concentration check vs. DC 15 + spell level, or loose the spell."
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"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 12 Sep 2005 : 19:43:07
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Well, this book sure took its time to come in my possession, but yesterday I finished it, and I'll agree with those here who's said it's a good book, not a great one, but I certainly never felt bored or put off by it - on the contrary, I had to postpone my dinner with 1 hour to finish the last third.
SPOILER
Only real peeve I have would be the aforementioned 'french' windows, although the fact that the description of the scene is based on the picture of Saestra in DRAGON #236 (Children of the Night, Vampires of the Forgotten Realms Setting) makes it very easy to forgive it |
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Kameron M. Franklin
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2005 : 19:50:58
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Only real peeve I have would be the aforementioned 'french' windows, although the fact that the description of the scene is based on the picture of Saestra in DRAGON #236 (Children of the Night, Vampires of the Forgotten Realms Setting) makes it very easy to forgive it
 Good catch! That picture was indeed the inspiration for the scene.
Glad you liked the book. I'm surprised at the amount of feedback I'm still receiving this long after the the release. Two reviews were recently posted on my website forum. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2005 : 20:00:47
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Cool. I half-expected a Kestus / Ythnel romance, and I like the way you handled it. Rather than just outright attraction / fullblown relationship, it was more "left hanging" in the face of greater concerns.
I also got the sense that Kestus was only about half attracted to Ythnel -- in the scene where she's got the illusion on and they interact, it seemed that he was only really attracted to her articially good looks, so I said to myself: "Bah. Loser!"
I thought the same thing myself.
Anyway, I could tell that Mr. Franklin had some experience with writing because of how nicely detailed the story was. But more importantly, I loved the main character. Yes, it's a dark story and features dark characters (and I tend to like light romps myself), but Ythnel seemed to me like a real person. Maiden of Pain reminded me of the stories in the Rogues series, which featured innocent (or not-so innocent) protagonists having to fight for themselves in hostile environments. That is one reason why this story hooked me instantly--the protagonist was one I could sympathize with.
The book explores why a "nice" person like Ythnel would ever worship Loviatar, and I found the explanation to be quite believable. It seems Loviator fills a maternal role for her, among other things, and again I felt sorry for Ythnel because her real mother not only never revealed herself, but seemed to be manipulating her as well. Interesting, how a priestess of pain like Yenael wanted to spare Ythnel from pain by not revealing her parentage. Nice touch there.
I also like how the book showed that in the Realms, there are people scheming all over the place, but even their motives were interesting in believable. I loved the scene where Jaerios feels ambivalent about his own clerical power because it's "too much like magic" and the ends don't justify the means. It made me wonder if the Karonoks really felt they were doing the right thing in trying to get rid of wizards, however "mad" that may be.
Great first novel, Kameron--you really seem to know what makes the Realms tick. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Sep 2005 : 22:10:13
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Originally posted by Kameron M. Franklin
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Only real peeve I have would be the aforementioned 'french' windows, although the fact that the description of the scene is based on the picture of Saestra in DRAGON #236 (Children of the Night, Vampires of the Forgotten Realms Setting) makes it very easy to forgive it
Good catch! That picture was indeed the inspiration for the scene.
Glad you liked the book. I'm surprised at the amount of feedback I'm still receiving this long after the the release. Two reviews were recently posted on my website forum.
As it happened I'd seen the picture just before starting to read the book, so pure happenstance. |
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Kameron M. Franklin
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2005 : 23:17:40
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Rin: A writer loves nothing more than when somebody gets his story. Thanks for the glowing words.
*sigh* If only the FR editors at WotC agreed with your last statement ("...you really seem to know what makes the Realms tick.") Unfortunately, that last proposal I sent in was rejected. But who knows, I may get a chance to revisit the Realms in a couple years. |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Sep 2005 : 23:30:01
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Originally posted by Kameron M. Franklin
Rin: A writer loves nothing more than when somebody gets his story. Thanks for the glowing words.
*sigh* If only the FR editors at WotC agreed with your last statement ("...you really seem to know what makes the Realms tick.") Unfortunately, that last proposal I sent in was rejected. But who knows, I may get a chance to revisit the Realms in a couple years.
Well met
I'm sorry to hear that, Kameron  Are ye able to say what this proposal was for?
Still, ye have certainly left thy mark on the Realms, and I hope ye continue to remain at Candlekeep, for thy presence is much appreciated. Also, ye will sometimes find scribes posting comments back here periodically on thy work  |
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Kameron M. Franklin
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2005 : 23:34:03
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Originally posted by Alaundo
Well met
I'm sorry to hear that, Kameron Are ye able to say what this proposal was for?
Still, ye have certainly left thy mark on the Realms, and I hope ye continue to remain at Candlekeep, for thy presence is much appreciated. Also, ye will sometimes find scribes posting comments back here periodically on thy work
I had been asked to send in a proposal for either the upcoming Dungeon or Citadel series. My proposal was for a Dungeon book set in the Shaar.
You've got a great community here, Alaundo, and I certainly enjoy visiting. |
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Alaundo
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Posted - 12 Sep 2005 : 23:45:42
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Originally posted by Kameron M. Franklin
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Originally posted by Alaundo
Well met
I'm sorry to hear that, Kameron Are ye able to say what this proposal was for?
Still, ye have certainly left thy mark on the Realms, and I hope ye continue to remain at Candlekeep, for thy presence is much appreciated. Also, ye will sometimes find scribes posting comments back here periodically on thy work
I had been asked to send in a proposal for either the upcoming Dungeon or Citadel series. My proposal was for a Dungeon book set in the Shaar.
You've got a great community here, Alaundo, and I certainly enjoy visiting.
Well met
Thank ye, Kameron. I'm very happy that thou art enjoying thy stay herein
Oh worry not about those Wizards whom dwell on the Coast. Simply, send thy proposal to me and i'll be more than happy to read through it 
'tis indeed a shame, it would have been very interesting to read of such a tale in the Shaar. The first tale ever in this location, I believe. Are ye able to tell us anything about the tale or is it now restricted by WotC copyrights, even though not selected? |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 14 Sep 2005 : 21:38:13
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Originally posted by Kameron M. Franklin
Rin: A writer loves nothing more than when somebody gets his story. Thanks for the glowing words.
You're welcome!
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*sigh* If only the FR editors at WotC agreed with your last statement ("...you really seem to know what makes the Realms tick.") Unfortunately, that last proposal I sent in was rejected. But who knows, I may get a chance to revisit the Realms in a couple years.
I'm sorry to hear that. But as Alaundo said, you've already left your mark (a great novel), and WotC would be smart not to overlook you forever. Don't worry about it too much. |
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Kameron M. Franklin
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 14 Sep 2005 : 23:17:19
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Originally posted by Alaundo
'tis indeed a shame, it would have been very interesting to read of such a tale in the Shaar. The first tale ever in this location, I believe. Are ye able to tell us anything about the tale or is it now restricted by WotC copyrights, even though not selected?
As far as my proposal, I'm pretty sure WotC has some sort of legal hold on it, so I will have to pass on your generous offer and take the synopsis to my grave. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Sep 2005 : 22:08:21
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| By the way, I just finished reading Realms of Dragons II, and I thought your story was one of the best. It features a gnome who turns out to be a true hero. Yours was definitely one of the more uplifting stories in that anthology. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Kameron M. Franklin
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 20 Sep 2005 : 23:17:11
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
By the way, I just finished reading Realms of Dragons II, and I thought your story was one of the best. It features a gnome who turns out to be a true hero. Yours was definitely one of the more uplifting stories in that anthology.
Thanks. I haven't heard it described as uplifting yet, considering the sadness of the outcome. What makes you think of it as such? |
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Maiden of Pain novel discussion (SPOILERS)
