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Vaydric
Acolyte

USA
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Posted - 14 May 2005 :  00:52:56  Show Profile  Visit Vaydric's Homepage Send Vaydric a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hello, everyone. I have a question, but I don't have enough info to ask it. This is what happens when you don't bring your books with you...

On page 123 of the Lords of Darkness supplement, there's a sidebar about Shar and her church. In this sidebar, it refers to a Chessentan mage who has discovered the Shadow Weave, but says that Shar has specifically decreed that he shall not be harmed. I believe the mage's name is Aerin somethingerother...

This is interesting to me, because of the central position of what used to be the Church of Shar in my campaign. (Yes, "used to be". My games rapidly lose all sanity.) The new, "reformed" church is about to launch an ambitious PR campaign, in an attempt to ingratiate the church to the gods of good. This will take the form of a modified run of The City of the Spider Queen, with the new Lord of the Shadow Weave -- named Vaydric, incidentally -- sending some of his true believers beneath the surface to save the Dalelands, in the name of the newest of the Faerunian pantheon.

So anyways... to my questions:
- What's this Chessentan mage's full name?
- More importantly, does anyone know of any other canon material regarding this mage? If there is -- supplements, novels, modules -- I'd love to try and scare it up. If not, no big deal -- I'm actually considering offering it as a player-character, so a blank slate is not a problem.

Thanks guys.

George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 14 May 2005 :  03:49:24  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aeron Morieth - read Rich Baker's "The Shadow Stone" novel.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Vaydric
Acolyte

USA
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Posted - 16 May 2005 :  22:11:07  Show Profile  Visit Vaydric's Homepage Send Vaydric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Aeron Morieth - read Rich Baker's "The Shadow Stone" novel.

-- George Krashos




Thanks, George! Exactly what I was looking for!
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 17 May 2005 :  00:39:18  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We aim to please.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Jasrya
Acolyte

Austria
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Posted - 19 May 2005 :  10:52:35  Show Profile  Visit Jasrya's Homepage Send Jasrya a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello and greetings from Vienna,

Aeron Morieth, he is a Half-Elven Mage/Shadow Adept. The stats are given in the Campaign Setting, i believe he is a 13th level mage and 3rd level shadow adept.

But in the book, no shar is mentioned and i also believe this book was written for the birthright setting.
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webmanus
Learned Scribe

Sweden
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Posted - 19 May 2005 :  11:14:18  Show Profile  Visit webmanus's Homepage Send webmanus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Jasrya,

The "The Shadow Stone" novel is a Forgotten Realms novel. But, maybe, you mean that the "The Shadow Stone" novel was originally written for the Birthright campaign ... and then, I do not know. For me, it is FR ...

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Manuel (webmanus)

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Jasrya
Acolyte

Austria
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Posted - 19 May 2005 :  13:37:52  Show Profile  Visit Jasrya's Homepage Send Jasrya a Private Message  Reply with Quote
@ Webmanus

Correct, i know that the novel is playing in the realms, but i believe in the wotc-forum i have read, that originally this story was planed for the lost Birthrigt Setting....

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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 20 May 2005 :  01:17:35  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It was originally planned for the Birthright setting. I think that Rich Baker and/or his editor did a great job re making it into an FR novel. Sure it has some aspects that are hard to reconcile with parts of FR 3E, but nothing that a bit of good FR brainstorming and realms-writing can't fix.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
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Posted - 20 May 2005 :  01:49:07  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Very true George. The ties between BR and FR in The Shadow Stone are almost impossible to notice for those Realms fan who either don't know or have never gamed in BR.

But as you said, with enough good Realmslore, you can explain away such quibbles.

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Neo2151
Learned Scribe

USA
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Posted - 01 Jun 2005 :  09:56:21  Show Profile Send Neo2151 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Very true George. The ties between BR and FR in The Shadow Stone are almost impossible to notice for those Realms fan who either don't know or have never gamed in BR.

But as you said, with enough good Realmslore, you can explain away such quibbles.




Ah, you could explain away such quibbles, but it would be nice if something official were done about all the misconceptions. Just on the WotC Forums, there is enough bantering about the origins of the Shadow Weave and how it truly works to keep even the most diligent scribes busy reading for tendays! And because it was intended for BR, it's just that annoyingly small difference that really sticks out. Not to mention WotC has almost completly ignored the novels and come up with a completly different story for the SW. Ah, the frusteration... if only it weren't my passion

"Come looking for me, and I will blast you to dust, and then lay waste to all your descendants, ancestors, and the realm you came from, every last tree and stone of it. Why? Well, it's what I usually do."

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Copper Elven Vampire
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 23 Feb 2013 :  07:29:24  Show Profile Send Copper Elven Vampire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The shadow stone was at first a massive great stone that was shattered into shards and cast among faerun. The Shadow Stone in the book and the reason Aeron became a shadow mage is because it's only a small sliver of the greater artifact. Aeron didn't gain the shadow weave from Shar.... he gained access simply from tapping the stone. He is CN. Anything can happen. Maybe Erevan Ilese has his hands on the shadow weave. Hmmm.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
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Posted - 23 Feb 2013 :  12:26:29  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, at least you know from a meta-gaming standpoint why he had a different status with the Shadoweave - he was originally toying with the Shadoworld (a very similar concept - in fact, the 4e Shadowfel makes it almost indistinguishable).

Probably had to ignore the whole Shar thing because it wasn't part of the original concept. Another example of why companies should just stick to one world. Things get messy, fast.

It sounds like you did some interesting things with Shar's church, Vaydric - I wouldn't mind hearing the rest.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 25 Feb 2013 :  14:03:55  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've long postulated that Shar created and allowed multiple access points to the shadow weave, some more subtle than others. The Shadow Stone was just one device whereby individuals could be ensnared to become shadow weave users and in time Shar worshippers (or at least Shar recognisers).

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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