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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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 Posted - 30 Apr 2005 : 18:31:05
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Our esteemed THO mentioned in the "ask Ed" thread that Cormyrean millitary dress and ranks and all that good fluff was now the purview of NDA, and hinted that she might be able to shed more light on this in a month or so.
I can only hope this might forshadow a new Cormyr book on the horizon, though if we don't know for sure if its been greenlighted, then I would have to say its not going to hit the shipping schedule this year. I hope my guess is correct on this. I would love to see another, well done, sorcebook on Cormyr, especially if Ed gets to throw his two copper thumbs into the matter.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 30 Apr 2005 : 21:05:43
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| Yes, that's the first thing I and one of my players who read THO's reply thought of; a new Cormyr sourcebook. It would seem to make sense since next year will bring about the first KOMD novel and that group started out in Cormyr. Thus, WOTC would have a nice tie-in between a major novel release and such a Cormyr gaming product. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2005 : 23:09:53
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Logical coordination of a novel and support product?
Someone check to make sure Dendar isn't getting restless, I think the end of the Realms may be upon us . . . |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2005 : 23:14:11
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Logical coordination of a novel and support product?
Someone check to make sure Dendar isn't getting restless, I think the end of the Realms may be upon us . . .
 It can be done! It's being done this year...right? Right? Someone throw me a bone of support here.  |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2005 : 23:19:14
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Yes, I think they may have accidentally schedule a Waterdeep sourcebook the same year the much anticipated Waterdeep novel comes out . . . which of course makes me even more concerned about the end of days . . .
hm . . . and Champions of Ruin has Dendar's stats in it from the rumors I have heard . . . coincedence? |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2005 : 03:10:03
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A "Cormyr" product would be awesome for 2006 but I seem to recall that Ed said earlier in his thread that such a release was "several years away" or words to that effect. I hope it's 2006 though - and Garen Thal would be almost frothing at the mouth at the prospect!
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2005 : 07:02:11
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We must all keep in mind as well that NDAs regarding a Cormyr supplement for 2006 would absolutely not expire "in a little more than a month" to free Ed to speak on such matters. More likely, the Best of the Realms II collection provides some lore on Cormyr's military, and Ed is refraining from revealing any more of the book's contents until it is released.
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2005 : 08:42:00
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| I would hate to be so deflated. Maybe you could let me live with the fantasy the WOTC got so many requests about a Cormyr sourcebook in recent months that they put it on the schedule for next year . . . ? |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Rudar Dimble
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 04 May 2005 : 09:23:26
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Originally posted by Xysma
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I would hate to be so deflated. Maybe you could let me live with the fantasy the WOTC got so many requests about a Cormyr sourcebook in recent months that they put it on the schedule for next year . . . ?
That would be cool, we couldn't be so lucky as to have a Cormyr sourcebook follow so closely on the heels of City of Splendors ... could we?
A Cormyr sourcebook would be great. Although, I think a Sword Coast sourcebook following the CoS sourcebook will be more likely. Or another Guide to The North. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 04 May 2005 : 13:21:56
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Originally posted by Rudar Dimble
A Cormyr sourcebook would be great. Although, I think a Sword Coast sourcebook following the CoS sourcebook will be more likely. Or another Guide to The North.
A Sword Coast sourcebook would be great as would one focusing on the Western Heartlands. What part of the North are you thinking about? |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 04 May 2005 : 14:21:10
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I don't know, I think there have been some great products about the North, and about Waterdeep (though I am greatly looking forward to a 3e treatment of the City of Splendors), but I was never really satisfied with any of the sourcebooks of Cormyr. It always came across as "that stable LG nation that doesn't like adventuers and mercenaries" rather than reflecting its own character.
Add to that the fact that most regions were either done closer to the 2e/3e transistion, and as such have more recent lore in them, and that the Cormyr sourcebooks were flat in the middle of 2e, I just think I would much rather see this region get a decent looking after first before we move on to another region. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 04 May 2005 : 14:39:50
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Rudar Dimble
A Cormyr sourcebook would be great. Although, I think a Sword Coast sourcebook following the CoS sourcebook will be more likely. Or another Guide to The North.
A Sword Coast sourcebook would be great as would one focusing on the Western Heartlands. What part of the North are you thinking about?
I still hold out hope that one day we may see some updated material for the various islands nations of the Realms - Evermeet, Lantan, and the Moonshaes for example...
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 04 May 2005 : 15:00:44
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
but I was never really satisfied with any of the sourcebooks of Cormyr...I just think I would much rather see this region get a decent looking after first before we move on to another region.
I don't think you are the only scribe dissatisfied with the sourcebook devoted to Cormyr. As evidenced by Ed Greenwood's thread, there is a great deal regarding Cormyr that has yet to be explored. |
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Rudar Dimble
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 04 May 2005 : 17:40:31
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Rudar Dimble
A Cormyr sourcebook would be great. Although, I think a Sword Coast sourcebook following the CoS sourcebook will be more likely. Or another Guide to The North.
A Sword Coast sourcebook would be great as would one focusing on the Western Heartlands. What part of the North are you thinking about?
A remake of the 2nd edition box setting. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 04 May 2005 : 20:51:58
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Volo's Guide to Cormyr is terrific, of course, but is end-user-focused and leaves out most of the underpinnings. The FRS-series sourcebooks The Dalelands and Cormyr are just thin (undense), with remarkably little new content or Realms atmosphere for their page count.
I'm slightly fonder of the Dales than of Cormyr, but would love to see a new book on either. (Since 2000 we've had four non-Heartlands regional sourcebooks and no Heartlands ones -- something wrong there.)
With huge voluminous web enhancements with all the stuff George and Garen have been working up with Ed for the last oh these many years. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 04 May 2005 : 21:01:34
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| I love the Volo's guides. I think, to this day, they are the best sourcebooks that either TSR/WOTC has put out on the Realms, but they are meant much more to give you the "player's eye" view of the areas they cover, which is great for atmosphere, but not for telling you about "Conspiracy A" or "Hidden Tomb C" or any other "Top Down" DM important itmes. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 04 May 2005 : 23:05:05
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I love the Volo's guides. I think, to this day, they are the best sourcebooks that either TSR/WOTC has put out on the Realms, but they are meant much more to give you the "player's eye" view of the areas they cover, which is great for atmosphere, but not for telling you about "Conspiracy A" or "Hidden Tomb C" or any other "Top Down" DM important itmes.
The Volo's Guides were the best. I should dearly love to see that series revived. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2005 : 01:58:40
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Originally posted by Faraer
With huge voluminous web enhancements with all the stuff George and Garen have been working up with Ed for the last oh these many years.
Credit has to also go to some of the earlier people whose work on Cormyr was seminal, such as Grant Christie and Bryon Wischstadt. Personally, I've stepped back from Cormyr of late, handing over to the very able Garen Thal whose ideas and musings have far overtaken mine.
I've since headed east and am checking out the sites.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 05 May 2005 : 02:30:59
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
The Volo's Guides were the best. I should dearly love to see that series revived.
I couldn't agree with that more.
I always keep the Volo's Guides close at hand. Even when I'm not looking for campaign ideas, they still make wonderful reading material.
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Rudar Dimble
Learned Scribe
131 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2005 : 09:32:57
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Originally posted by Faraer
Volo's Guide to Cormyr is terrific, of course, but is end-user-focused and leaves out most of the underpinnings. The FRS-series sourcebooks The Dalelands and Cormyr are just thin (undense), with remarkably little new content or Realms atmosphere for their page count.
I'm slightly fonder of the Dales than of Cormyr, but would love to see a new book on either. (Since 2000 we've had four non-Heartlands regional sourcebooks and no Heartlands ones -- something wrong there.)
With huge voluminous web enhancements with all the stuff George and Garen have been working up with Ed for the last oh these many years.
The Volo's Guides are great...I think we all agree on that one. However, I do find The Dalelands to be a very useful sourcebook, although I concur, it's very thin. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 05 May 2005 : 17:41:18
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Well isn't Ed's next novel project his Knights series? Seems if they want to tie-in the novels with product prolly that would be the way to go, HOWEVER, we're all forgetting something.
Realms of the Elves
My money is on an Evermeet/Evereska/etc. book.
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Rudar Dimble
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 05 May 2005 : 18:12:55
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Originally posted by SirUrza
Well isn't Ed's next novel project his Knights series? Seems if they want to tie-in the novels with product prolly that would be the way to go, HOWEVER, we're all forgetting something.
Realms of the Elves
My money is on an Evermeet/Evereska/etc. book.
That would certainly surprise me |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 May 2005 : 18:24:57
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Originally posted by Rudar Dimble
That would certainly surprise me
Why would it surprise you? |
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Rudar Dimble
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 05 May 2005 : 18:29:38
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Rudar Dimble
That would certainly surprise me
Why would it surprise you?
Because I think that WotC is more willing to publish region based sourcebooks that they know are going to be bestsellers. An Evermeet sourcebook would certainly have my interest and probably the interest of many people on these forums. However, the 'normal' or 'regular' D&D player isn't waiting for a Evermeet, but much more likely will they be waiting for Cormyr or the Sword Coast.
Of course, these are just my thoughts. |
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Snotlord
Senior Scribe
Norway
476 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2005 : 19:40:51
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I agree with the Knight. It seems to me that the "mainstream" D&D are annoyed with the number of elven races (judging by rants on messageboards and reviews), and elves in general, in the realms. Thus making an elven book for FR unlikely IMO.
Lots of elven history and elven races are covered in Lost Empires and Races, which does not help the odds for a book on the elves.
I think our best shot at a book that includes Evermeet, is an island book that includes Moonshae, or a Sword Coast book with both Moonshae and Evermeet.
On the other hand, the folks at wotc clearly like the elves of faerun, so who knows? I would love a book like that. |
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2005 : 16:10:25
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Originally posted by Faraer
Volo's Guide to Cormyr is terrific, of course, but is end-user-focused and leaves out most of the underpinnings. The FRS-series sourcebooks The Dalelands and Cormyr are just thin (undense), with remarkably little new content or Realms atmosphere for their page count.
I'm slightly fonder of the Dales than of Cormyr, but would love to see a new book on either. (Since 2000 we've had four non-Heartlands regional sourcebooks and no Heartlands ones -- something wrong there.)
With huge voluminous web enhancements with all the stuff George and Garen have been working up with Ed for the last oh these many years.
I have to concur with what all you've said. A Heartlands book has been a long time coming, and while I would personally prefer a Dalelands one, I'd quite happily take Cormyr.
And I think there are many people out there who'd love to see more of Volo and his travels. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 May 2005 : 16:57:23
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Originally posted by Snotlord
I agree with the Knight. It seems to me that the "mainstream" D&D are annoyed with the number of elven races (judging by rants on messageboards and reviews), and elves in general, in the realms. Thus making an elven book for FR unlikely IMO.
I know I am. With the retconning of the Wood/Wild elves of 1e and 2e in FR. If you didn't know they were one subrace in FR until 3e. I still have no idea why WOTC felt the need to change that. Then they added in Star Elves. How many darn elven subraces does FR need?
Granted there are only seven in my version.
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Moon
Sun
Wood/Wild
Aquatic
Dark
Then I added:
Winged
Lythari
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2005 : 17:10:28
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Originally posted by Snotlord
I agree with the Knight. It seems to me that the "mainstream" D&D are annoyed with the number of elven races (judging by rants on messageboards and reviews), and elves in general, in the realms. Thus making an elven book for FR unlikely IMO.
I find that reaction funny. While it's only my opinion, I feel the "return" of the Star Search elves was done to appeal to "mainstream" D&D fans who don't necessarily run a FR campaign. The Star Search elves provided these gamers a cool new elven race they could put into their campaign even if it's not based in the Realms.
But, that's just my opinion. And from reading comments from two FR authors at this forum, it appears that the novel department was open to a book being centered around the Purple Dragon Knight prestige class. Thus, perhaps in the near future we'll see a Cormyr sourcebook since it doesn't appear WOTC has grown tired of the setting.
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 15 May 2005 : 01:07:29
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I would happily welcome a Cormyr region book, especially if it is done by Ed, Sean, Eric or George.
Lately there´s just been too much "crunch" in the published volumes, with very little juicy details and Realmslore... *sigh*
If I could make a wish, it´d have similar information as the good ol´ Waterdeep and the Savage Frontier
My players always demand extra attention to little details, so here are some examples of what I would like to know more about:
Cormyrean heraldry : Ed has touched this point on some of his stuff, but I would really love to have illustrated city/town/noble family coat-of-arms, along with some detailed information about cormyrean heraldry rules in general.
Folks, feuds, factions : Politics and power groups, including all new NPCs, both twisted individuals and members of different organisations.
Who were the Mages-Regal mentioned in FRCS? What is their relation to Zhentarim, or the Sword Heralds (who seem to be a very similar organisation)?
Nobility: as mentioned above, detailed and illustrated coat-of-arms, family history (even a short one) existing members, noble ranks, holdings etc.
Cormyrean military and war wizards: More than just military ranks, or the known NPCs. The history of Cormyr´s armed forces, their training processes, layouts of outposts, common tactics etc.
Guilds: Again, briefly mentioned in previous source books that there ARE many guilds operating in Cormyr. What kind of guilds there are - is there a Lamplighters´ Guild in Cormyr? How many members do they have? Are there any general guild laws? Is there a Merchants´Guild, which governs all other guilds? Etcetera...
And, if there would be a ready-to-run adventure within the book, why not something like "Return to the Haunted Halls"? Or perhaps some other haunted mage-hold or ruin within Stonelands?
Any thoughts on these?
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 15 May 2005 : 01:36:18
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I doubt Cormyr will get a book all by itself
Id wager that you'll get the following
Cormyr and Sembia in same source book
or Cormyr and the Dragon Coast
or even Cormyr, Dragon Coast and Sembia
I further predict that we will one day see the Dalelands and the Moonsea in the same source book |
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