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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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 Posted - 15 May 2005 : 01:48:16
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
Any thoughts on these?
I like your examples. However, I'd be amazed if a published Cormyr gaming product covered half of what you listed. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 15 May 2005 : 02:41:51
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
Any thoughts on these?
I like your examples. However, I'd be amazed if a published Cormyr gaming product covered half of what you listed.
Indeed.
In the likelihood that a Cormyr tome were to be published, I'd rather see it contain details on the Dragon Coast. I'd be curious to see whether Anauroch itself would also be detailed in the same tome...
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2005 : 17:29:40
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
Any thoughts on these?
I like your examples. However, I'd be amazed if a published Cormyr gaming product covered half of what you listed.
Indeed.
In the likelihood that a Cormyr tome were to be published, I'd rather see it contain details on the Dragon Coast. I'd be curious to see whether Anauroch itself would also be detailed in the same tome...
I think the Dragon Coast would demand an independent region book in itself (as would Anauroch). I hope that the Stonelands and Tunlands are featured as much as possible, without losing too much focus on Cormyr.
I do not really care for any more prestige classes (or updating them to d&d3.5). New spells (elven and war wizards) and magic items related to Cormyr (the Wyvern Crown of Cormyr, and the Swords of the State, for example) wouldnīt be "too crunchy" for my taste, if they are chosen and done properly. Mostly I hope background information on the topics I posted above... |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 23 May 2005 : 22:43:26
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
I do not really care for any more prestige classes (or updating them to d&d3.5).
It doesn't seem to matter if we'd care for them or not -- they force-feed them to us, anyway.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 24 May 2005 : 02:34:46
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
I do not really care for any more prestige classes (or updating them to d&d3.5).
It doesn't seem to matter if we'd care for them or not -- they force-feed them to us, anyway.
Indeed... My plate is still full from the last serving  ...
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2005 : 16:20:42
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
I do not really care for any more prestige classes (or updating them to d&d3.5).
It doesn't seem to matter if we'd care for them or not -- they force-feed them to us, anyway.
Indeed... My plate is still full from the last serving ...
Mine too. No more "Halfling Warsnipers" or "Masters of the Invisible Hand" for me
Although I would welcome more "specialty priest"-like prestige classes . Faiths & Pantheons featured some, yet many deities would also deserve theirs. Perhaps Eric could do them? 
I am glad that Eric is designing the "Waterdeep"-accessory... that ensures that there will be no "Waterdhavian Innkeeper", "Dock Ward Brawlers" or "Street Urchin" prestige classes found on its pages 
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2005 : 00:59:50
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Hmm, good thing we shelved the "Fat, wheezing, slovenly merchant" PRC.
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 May 2005 : 01:06:24
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Hmm, good thing we shelved the "Fat, wheezing, slovenly merchant" PRC.
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Could we get the data that was planed for this very important class ? *wink* I think I need about 20 of them. |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2005 : 01:44:37
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Hmm, good thing we shelved the "Fat, wheezing, slovenly merchant" PRC.
-- George Krashos
I was just joking... "Fat, wheezing, slovenly merchant" PrC sounds just fine What are the requirements? IÂīd hazard a guess that you need at least BAB +9, Improved Initiative, Iron Will, and Improved Critical (money pouch)
I may have some prejudice against merchants ever since half of them in VoloÂīs Guides seemed to either possess innate magical abilities, loads of magic items, or powerful guardian monsters. Almost all of them seem to be throwing stuff around their shops a lot (since they usually have a +4 to all attack rolls within their shops ;)
Then again, I guess Volo was exaggerating a bit. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 25 May 2005 : 02:19:40
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
Then again, I guess Volo was exaggerating a bit.
For sales more than anything. If the guides were boring, then hardly any Realmsians would purchase them...  .
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2005 : 01:41:17
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Originally posted by Dargoth
I doubt Cormyr will get a book all by itself
Id wager that you'll get the following
Cormyr and Sembia in same source book
or Cormyr and the Dragon Coast
or even Cormyr, Dragon Coast and Sembia
I further predict that we will one day see the Dalelands and the Moonsea in the same source book
Do you really think that? I have to say that I fear this might happen too but certainly Cormyr and the Dalelands are huge areas and important enough to deserve their own books. They're also popular areas so will still have wider appeal - I don't really have a clue but it wouldn't surprise me if more people have campagins in Cormyr than in the whole of the Shining South. Silver Marches and Waterdeep get their own sourcebooks and these are small but popular areas. |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 26 May 2005 : 02:32:58
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
Then again, I guess Volo was exaggerating a bit.
For sales more than anything. If the guides were boring, then hardly any Realmsians would purchase them... .
I wasnīt really complaining about the quality and content of Master Voloīs Guidebooks I love them for all the lovingly written quality Realmslore within every page
Sometimes I am just a bit amused with shopkeepers - after all, how on Toril almost all of the smiths have either Helmed Horrors or Animated swords (or even anvils!) defending their shops? And letīs not mention those innkeepers at all |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2005 : 02:38:41
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Originally posted by Reefy
Do you really think that? I have to say that I fear this might happen too but certainly Cormyr and the Dalelands are huge areas and important enough to deserve their own books. They're also popular areas so will still have wider appeal - I don't really have a clue but it wouldn't surprise me if more people have campagins in Cormyr than in the whole of the Shining South. Silver Marches and Waterdeep get their own sourcebooks and these are small but popular areas.
Cormyr definitely would require a region book on its own. And the Dalelands, too. Probably more people have campaigns there than in the rest of the whole Realms (just kidding ;)
But seriously, I might occasionally use Shining South as a reference, but I will hardly ever run a campaign there. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2005 : 02:59:57
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
Then again, I guess Volo was exaggerating a bit.
For sales more than anything. If the guides were boring, then hardly any Realmsians would purchase them... .
I wasnīt really complaining about the quality and content of Master Voloīs Guidebooks I love them for all the lovingly written quality Realmslore within every page
Sometimes I am just a bit amused with shopkeepers - after all, how on Toril almost all of the smiths have either Helmed Horrors or Animated swords (or even anvils!) defending their shops? And letīs not mention those innkeepers at all
I realised that . I was actually speaking from an in-game perspective.
As I see it, most native Realmsians probably wouldn't bother purchasing any of the Guides by Volo if they were just dry and dull tomes with page after page of consistent facts. Like those of us in the real-world, native Realmsians probably purchase these tomes largely for the Realmslore inside, but also, there is most likely a great passion in many communities for Volo's entertaining writing style.
To many, he makes learning about the world outside their doors... fun and exciting .
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2005 : 14:14:15
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Hmm, good thing we shelved the "Fat, wheezing, slovenly merchant" PRC.
-- George Krashos
I think Mirt has levels in that PrC.
I donīt think Mirt could be described as 'slovenly'? Fat and wheezing, certainly |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 26 May 2005 : 14:31:28
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Originally posted by The Sage
I realised that . I was actually speaking from an in-game perspective.
As I see it, most native Realmsians probably wouldn't bother purchasing any of the Guides by Volo if they were just dry and dull tomes with page after page of consistent facts. Like those of us in the real-world, native Realmsians probably purchase these tomes largely for the Realmslore inside, but also, there is most likely a great passion in many communities for Volo's entertaining writing style.
To many, he makes learning about the world outside their doors... fun and exciting .
True. Master Volo certainly writes very eloquently. I am glad for Elminsterīs notes and corrections, though, since sometimes Volo hasnīt really bothered to "get to the bottom" of things in favor of dramatic and exciting narrative
I poured through his Guide to Cormyr yesterday, and once again I was impressed with his text. The parts concerning the adventuring charters and festivals contained some of the most innovative (and exciting) pieces of Realmslore I have ever seen... though I must note that his estimations for the price of adventuring charters in Cormyr seem a bit high? |
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