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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 28 Apr 2005 :  01:36:57  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

I vaguely remember that. I never kept up with the AD&D comic, though I followed the Forgotten Realms comic more regularly. I liked the cast better at any rate. You just can't beat a talking golem, a gold elf cleric that offends everyone, an alchoholic paladin, a crotchety old wizard, a halfling, and a displaced ninja.


I liked both groups, really... But Kyriani, from AD&D, was my fave character from all four of the DC/TSR titles. She's also the one that's gotten the most post-comic attention (thanks to another fan of hers, the esteemed sage Steven Schend).

(I hope we'll see her in the Waterdeep sourcebook! )

quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Well, you could beat it if the party had a duck . . .



There's just not been enough focus on the ducks of the Realms. We need a Realms of Ducks anthology.

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Melfius
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Isn't one of the coming years labelled the Year of the Watery Fowl's Revenge?

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I hope none of the Chosen misinterpret any prophesies to read that undead ducks will rule . . .

Or would that be undead drakes?
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quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

I hope none of the Chosen misinterpret any prophesies to read that undead ducks will rule . . .

An undead duck as Chosen of Malar will rule!

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I think that we've finally cracked this topic open...

Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
Sigh... And now 4e as well.
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Melfius
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Posted - 28 Apr 2005 :  21:32:10  Show Profile  Visit Melfius's Homepage Send Melfius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okay, only because I was bored at work today:

DUCK
Tiny Animal
Hit Dice: 1d8 (3 hp)
Initiative: +1
Speed: 10 ft. (2 squares), fly 30 ft. (average), swim 30 ft.
Armor Class: 15 (+2 size, +1 Dex, +2 natural), touch 13, flat-footed 14
Base Attack/Grapple: +0/-11
Attack: Beak +2 melee (1d4-3)
Full Attack: Beak +2 melee (1d4-3)
Space/Reach: 2-1/2 ft./0 ft.
Special Attacks: ---
Special Qualities: Low-light vision
Saves: Fort +4, Will +0, Ref +3
Abilities: Str 4, Dex 12, Con 14, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 10
Skills: Spot +2, Swimming +10
Feats: Endurance
Environment: Ponds and coastal areas
Organization: Flock
Challange Rating: 1/4
Advancement: 2 HD (Small)
Level Adjustment: ---

Plus: I figured SOMEONE owed it to Alaundo to do something for this topic to bring us back on track. Or something.

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Posted - 28 Apr 2005 :  23:24:45  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Melfius

Plus: I figured SOMEONE owed it to Alaundo to do something for this topic to bring us back on track. Or something.



Well met

Thank ye, Melfius. Ye did well Now back to work in the Inn, that pan is boiling over..... and ye can put that duck down and leave it where it is

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Wooly Rupert
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Melfius, what about the variant ducks we were talking about? Fiendish, dire, giant, vampiric, wereducks... Where's the stats on them?

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Melfius, what about the variant ducks we were talking about? Fiendish, dire, giant, vampiric, wereducks... Where's the stats on them?



Just apply to proper template *wink*

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Melfius
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 :  00:51:40  Show Profile  Visit Melfius's Homepage Send Melfius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah! Apply the templates! I need to get back to the Kitchen!

(Actually, I may just do them up tomorrow at work when I get bored again!)

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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 :  15:52:44  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If anyone tries to put templates on my ducks, I'm going to duck them up.
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tauster
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 :  16:29:30  Show Profile  Visit tauster's Homepage Send tauster a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Melfius

Okay, only because I was bored at work today:

DUCK
Tiny Animal
Hit Dice: 1d8 (3 hp)


i have not the faintest idea of how hitpoints "work" in 3.x, but in 2nd edition, 3 hp was what the average commoner had. based on that, i´d "give" the duck 1 hp, not more.
...unless it´s a templated duck... *jumps for cover*
btw: is there a template for "fried"?
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Melfius
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 :  17:17:18  Show Profile  Visit Melfius's Homepage Send Melfius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tauster

quote:
Originally posted by Melfius

Okay, only because I was bored at work today:

DUCK
Tiny Animal
Hit Dice: 1d8 (3 hp)


i have not the faintest idea of how hitpoints "work" in 3.x, but in 2nd edition, 3 hp was what the average commoner had. based on that, i´d "give" the duck 1 hp, not more.
...unless it´s a templated duck... *jumps for cover*
btw: is there a template for "fried"?




Yes, that was 2nd Edition. In 3rd Edition, the average bird (so I saw in the Monster Manual) has about 4.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 :  17:27:25  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Melfius

quote:
Originally posted by tauster

quote:
Originally posted by Melfius

Okay, only because I was bored at work today:

DUCK
Tiny Animal
Hit Dice: 1d8 (3 hp)


i have not the faintest idea of how hitpoints "work" in 3.x, but in 2nd edition, 3 hp was what the average commoner had. based on that, i´d "give" the duck 1 hp, not more.
...unless it´s a templated duck... *jumps for cover*
btw: is there a template for "fried"?




Yes, that was 2nd Edition. In 3rd Edition, the average bird (so I saw in the Monster Manual) has about 4.



Does that include unladen swallows?

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Melfius
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 :  17:39:21  Show Profile  Visit Melfius's Homepage Send Melfius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Because you asked for it:

DIRE DUCK
Small Animal
Hit Dice: 1d8 (4 hp)
Initiative: +1
Speed: 15 ft. (2 squares), fly 35 ft. (average), swim 35 ft.
Armor Class: 17 (+2 size, +1 Dex, +4 natural), touch 13, flat-footed 16
Base Attack/Grapple: +0/-11
Attack: Beak +2 melee (1d4-1)
Full Attack: Beak +2 melee (1d4-1)
Space/Reach: 2-1/2 ft./0 ft.
Special Attacks: ---
Special Qualities: Low-light vision
Saves: Fort +4, Will +0, Ref +3
Abilities: Str 5, Dex 12, Con 15, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 8
Skills: Spot +2, Swimming +10
Feats: Endurance
Environment: Ponds and coastal areas
Organization: Flock
Challange Rating: 1/2
Advancement: 3 HD (Small)
Level Adjustment: ---

Oh, and it'll take a while for me to do up a wereduck as that requires 3 sets of stats (six if it is a were-dire duck).

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Kajehase
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How 'bout a pirate duck?
tp://ackegard.com/gallery//adventurers/duck_pirate

And what would win - a pirate duck or a ninja duck?

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Kentinal
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 :  18:01:23  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Melfius

Because you asked for it:

DIRE DUCK
Small Animal
Hit Dice: 1d8 (4 hp)
Initiative: +1
Speed: 15 ft. (2 squares), fly 35 ft. (average), swim 35 ft.
Armor Class: 17 (+2 size, +1 Dex, +4 natural), touch 13, flat-footed 16
Base Attack/Grapple: +0/-11
Attack: Beak +2 melee (1d4-1)
Full Attack: Beak +2 melee (1d4-1)




Hmm, Dire Duck might be small in size, one reason an animal can Dire is because of larger size. I also think the HD should be a little higher and beak attack do more damage.

Just a few ideas to consider.

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"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Melfius
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 :  20:13:04  Show Profile  Visit Melfius's Homepage Send Melfius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Melfius

quote:
Originally posted by tauster

quote:
Originally posted by Melfius

Okay, only because I was bored at work today:

DUCK
Tiny Animal
Hit Dice: 1d8 (3 hp)


i have not the faintest idea of how hitpoints "work" in 3.x, but in 2nd edition, 3 hp was what the average commoner had. based on that, i´d "give" the duck 1 hp, not more.
...unless it´s a templated duck... *jumps for cover*
btw: is there a template for "fried"?




Yes, that was 2nd Edition. In 3rd Edition, the average bird (so I saw in the Monster Manual) has about 4.



Does that include unladen swallows?



Which do you mean: African or European?

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Melfius
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Posted - 29 Apr 2005 :  20:15:32  Show Profile  Visit Melfius's Homepage Send Melfius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

How 'bout a pirate duck?
tp://ackegard.com/gallery//adventurers/duck_pirate

And what would win - a pirate duck or a ninja duck?



At this point, the only thing we can say for sure is that they would hate each other immensly. Everyone knows that pirates and ninjas hate each other.

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Melfius
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quote:
Originally posted by Kentinal

quote:
Originally posted by Melfius

Because you asked for it:

DIRE DUCK
Small Animal
Hit Dice: 1d8 (4 hp)
Initiative: +1
Speed: 15 ft. (2 squares), fly 35 ft. (average), swim 35 ft.
Armor Class: 17 (+2 size, +1 Dex, +4 natural), touch 13, flat-footed 16
Base Attack/Grapple: +0/-11
Attack: Beak +2 melee (1d4-1)
Full Attack: Beak +2 melee (1d4-1)




Hmm, Dire Duck might be small in size, one reason an animal can Dire is because of larger size. I also think the HD should be a little higher and beak attack do more damage.

Just a few ideas to consider.



Let's be honest, here: Dire or not, a duck is still a duck and not likely to be formidable in any arena.

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Kentinal
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quote:
Originally posted by Melfius


Let's be honest, here: Dire or not, a duck is still a duck and not likely to be formidable in any arena.



At least make it CR 1 *wink*

Your design and overall not all that bad.

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"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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quote:
Originally posted by Melfius

quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

How 'bout a pirate duck?
tp://ackegard.com/gallery//adventurers/duck_pirate

And what would win - a pirate duck or a ninja duck?



At this point, the only thing we can say for sure is that they would hate each other immensly. Everyone knows that pirates and ninjas hate each other.



And of course, that neither would stand a chance against viking ducks

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Posted - 30 Apr 2005 :  07:00:14  Show Profile  Visit Yggdrasil's Homepage Send Yggdrasil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
a Lycanthrope, lich, zombie duck would be interesting.

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quote:
Originally posted by Yggdrasil

a Lycanthrope, lich, zombie duck would be interesting.



Err zombie and lich are both undead, so one should choose one or the other.

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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No what I really fear are ducks of Talona, spreading fowl diseases across fearun, nahhh the whole of toril and the inner and outer planes. I tell U. Ducks must die

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quote:
Originally posted by Amraz one arm

No what I really fear are ducks of Talona, spreading fowl diseases across fearun, nahhh the whole of toril and the inner and outer planes. I tell U. Ducks must die



That's bad... I like!

I'd forgotten about this thread. This was a fun one.

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Indeed this topic has caught me up, and, I think I am not gonna look at ducks as I used to from now...

An average commoner has 3 hp, that makes me feel... weak...

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"you should have known better than to pick up a duck in a dungeon" Munchkin curse

Seriously people ducks kill people! Look here it is ducks float because they made out of wood and if they are made out of wood than they are.........?
Thats right and here you are mocking them, I fear for your souls teasing them! I am sure a scale of justice waits for you!
Stop now turn back for these monsters are so horrible that you canno' begin to imagine 'em.

Die, die, die ,die, die, why won't you just die you silly dragon!
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Would it have a better attack if it had the Duck Flew?

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What if the duck had a plague like that of the Bubonic plague?

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