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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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 Posted - 25 Apr 2005 : 18:38:51
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Its a long story . . . a player in one of my games has a duck in real life. His elf battlemage wants to find a duck and train it.
Does anyone know if any source (WOTC or d20) has stats either for a standard duck or even a dire duck.
Asking this questions really puts me in a fowl mood.
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Apr 2005 : 19:02:26
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Its a long story . . . a player in one of my games has a duck in real life. His elf battlemage wants to find a duck and train it.
Does anyone know if any source (WOTC or d20) has stats either for a standard duck or even a dire duck.
Asking this questions really puts me in a fowl mood.
Fan based I find this
"Refresher course on Animals: [BAB: as cleric, skills: 10-15, feats: -, good saves: Fort and/or Reflex]"
However the animals were often too small.
A continued search has not offered a d20 source, there may be one out there someplace.
Anyway off hand I would stat a Duck at CR 1/16 1/4 HP Attack beak BAB 1 Danage 1d4-3 Full attack beak and wings BAB 1 Damage 1d4-3, distraction ( The wings flaping results in circumstane penalty of attacks/saves and damage).
A Dire Duck perhaps multiply by 4 *shrugs*
I still want an official ruling on how much a D&D chicken weighes, I would not expect many to worry about ducks.
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Yggdrasil
Acolyte
Thailand
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Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 07:56:28
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Rudar Dimble
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Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 08:35:28
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It seems you already got a fairly good answer on the WotC-boards... |
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 10:37:27
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 11:35:14
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
Dire Duck
...At least he's not looking for the stats for the fearsome and dreaded wereduck!  |
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 11:37:46
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
Dire Duck
...At least he's not looking for the stats for the fearsome and dreaded wereduck!
Or the little known vampiric duck of Everlund. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 15:00:23
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Originally posted by Reefy
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
Dire Duck
...At least he's not looking for the stats for the fearsome and dreaded wereduck!
Or the little known vampiric duck of Everlund.
Grr, no jokes left for me
Of course, if they'd been using the Swedish RPG Drakar & Demoner (funny 'bout the abbrevation, eh?), he could have played a duck. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 17:46:33
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Originally posted by Kajehase
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Originally posted by Reefy
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
Dire Duck
...At least he's not looking for the stats for the fearsome and dreaded wereduck!
Or the little known vampiric duck of Everlund.
Grr, no jokes left for me
Of course, if they'd been using the Swedish RPG Drakar & Demoner (funny 'bout the abbrevation, eh?), he could have played a duck.
Oh, come on! No one's made jokes about the fiendish duck, the half-dragon half-duck, the shadow duck, the planar duck, or the Giant Space Duck of Ill Omen... 
But maybe we should stop "quacking" jokes before Big Al comes in weilding his staff...  |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 26 Apr 2005 17:48:20 |
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Faraer
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Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 22:24:58
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Of course, if they'd been using the Swedish RPG Drakar & Demoner (funny 'bout the abbrevation, eh?), he could have played a duck.
Or if they'd been playing in Glorantha, for instance with HeroQuest or RuneQuest, which had anthropomorphic ducks (which I once wrote up for 3E but lost what I wrote) inspired by the works of Carl Barks before there was a D&D. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 22:47:42
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Originally posted by Faraer
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Of course, if they'd been using the Swedish RPG Drakar & Demoner (funny 'bout the abbrevation, eh?), he could have played a duck.
Or if they'd been playing in Glorantha, for instance with HeroQuest or RuneQuest, which had anthropomorphic ducks (which I once wrote up for 3E but lost what I wrote) inspired by the works of Carl Barks before there was a D&D.
I remember seeing the ads for those in Dragon, years back... Usually the caption was something like "Have you seen this duck?" |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 23:27:58
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It seems you already got a fairly good answer on the WotC-boards...
So perhaps you will share it over here? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 23:36:50
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Kajehase
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Originally posted by Reefy
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
Dire Duck
...At least he's not looking for the stats for the fearsome and dreaded wereduck!
Or the little known vampiric duck of Everlund.
Grr, no jokes left for me
Of course, if they'd been using the Swedish RPG Drakar & Demoner (funny 'bout the abbrevation, eh?), he could have played a duck.
Oh, come on! No one's made jokes about the fiendish duck, the half-dragon half-duck, the shadow duck, the planar duck, or the Giant Space Duck of Ill Omen...
But maybe we should stop "quacking" jokes before Big Al comes in weilding his staff...
Surprised no one mentioned Count Duckula..... or maybe that cartoon was only on where I live. :) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2005 : 00:44:39
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Originally posted by kuje31
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Kajehase
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Originally posted by Reefy
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
Dire Duck
...At least he's not looking for the stats for the fearsome and dreaded wereduck!
Or the little known vampiric duck of Everlund.
Grr, no jokes left for me
Of course, if they'd been using the Swedish RPG Drakar & Demoner (funny 'bout the abbrevation, eh?), he could have played a duck.
Oh, come on! No one's made jokes about the fiendish duck, the half-dragon half-duck, the shadow duck, the planar duck, or the Giant Space Duck of Ill Omen...
But maybe we should stop "quacking" jokes before Big Al comes in weilding his staff...
Surprised no one mentioned Count Duckula..... or maybe that cartoon was only on where I live. :)
I thought of that, Darkwing Duck, and Duck Tales... But of the three, I only watched DT, and I couldn't think of any jokes to make from that one. |
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Apr 2005 : 01:16:19
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Surprised no one mentioned Count Duckula..... or maybe that cartoon was only on where I live. :)
That was what I was getting at. Why I pulled out Everlund as his Faerûnian abode is anybody's guess. |
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Melfius
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 27 Apr 2005 : 02:39:21
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| Of course, there's also Duckman and Howard the duck! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 27 Apr 2005 : 03:28:54
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Of course, there's also Duckman and Howard the duck!
Also Daffy Duck, Donald Duck, the tune "Disco Duck"...
Man, we're really milking this one, aren't we? 
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Melfius
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Posted - 27 Apr 2005 : 03:34:43
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| I don't think you can milk a duck, Wooly. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 27 Apr 2005 : 04:21:33
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Surprised no one mentioned Count Duckula..... or maybe that cartoon was only on where I live. :)
Always a favorite of mine. It inspired many humorous RL adventures...
Imagine Count Strahd as Count Duckula... .
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Alaundo
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Melfius
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 27 Apr 2005 : 14:19:58
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It occurs to me that there were stats printed in an issue of Dragon for Howard the Duck for the Marvel RPG. Shouldn't be to hard to convert to D&D, don't you think?
Closer to topic, Big A? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2005 : 17:33:38
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Well met
If there was one scroll that would go astray, I knew it to be this one
Everyone finished with ducks? good! Now, back to some Realmslore.... 
There's ducks in the Realms, I'm sure of it! |
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Chosen of Bane
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Posted - 27 Apr 2005 : 17:45:41
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Originally posted by Alaundo
Well met
If there was one scroll that would go astray, I knew it to be this one
Everyone finished with ducks? good! Now, back to some Realmslore....
There's ducks in the Realms, I'm sure of it!
Leave it to Wooly to dodge Big Al's staff again, he must have ducked at just the right time. |
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Alaundo
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Apr 2005 : 22:58:35
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Does it occur to anyone that a giant space hampster is discussing the validity of duck discussions withing Candlekeep?
Then again, I am the author of this fowl topic . . .
Yes I did get a good reply back at the WOTC forums (one of the few times I have EVER gotten a better reply from there then here), though I appreciate your . . . ahem . . . input.
Although I would still be interested in a dire duck.
And I also wonder if there is a Duck Lord.
(What is the disposition of the animal lords in the Realms anyway?) |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Apr 2005 : 23:23:34
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Hm, now I am seriously wondering about this.
Are there animal lords in the Realms? I know the Cat Lord was listed as a Oerth Epic Level character.
I would assume that the Duck Lord would actually be covered under a Bird Lord . . .
Does anyone have any thoughts on the Animal Lords and the Realms? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 28 Apr 2005 : 00:13:02
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Does it occur to anyone that a giant space hampster is discussing the validity of duck discussions withing Candlekeep?
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 28 Apr 2005 : 00:17:42
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Hm, now I am seriously wondering about this.
Are there animal lords in the Realms? I know the Cat Lord was listed as a Oerth Epic Level character.
I would assume that the Duck Lord would actually be covered under a Bird Lord . . .
Does anyone have any thoughts on the Animal Lords and the Realms?
The Cat Lord also put in an appearance in the Advanced Dungeons & Dragons comic book. He was in the "Spell Games" story arc, which I believe was issues 13-16.
However, I cannot at the moment recall any other mentions of Animal Lords in the Realms.
And before anyone asks, the issue of whether or not the comics are canon has never been addressed by TPTB. However, events and characters from the comics have been in fiction and in various sourcebooks, and the characters were statted out in Dragon. That certainly qualifies as canon to me. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Apr 2005 : 00:23:32
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I vaguely remember that. I never kept up with the AD&D comic, though I followed the Forgotten Realms comic more regularly. I liked the cast better at any rate. You just can't beat a talking golem, a gold elf cleric that offends everyone, an alchoholic paladin, a crotchety old wizard, a halfling, and a displaced ninja.
Well, you could beat it if the party had a duck . . . |
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Faraer
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Posted - 28 Apr 2005 : 00:23:58
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And I also wonder if there is a Duck Lord.
If there wasn't it would be a crime. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Apr 2005 : 01:00:42
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| The animal lords also appear in Planescape, in the Beastlands if I recall right. |
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No really . . . I need stats for a duck . . .
