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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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 Posted - 18 Jun 2005 : 14:07:23
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Originally posted by Shadovar
Indeed very interesting websites, well for the first time, we could see Drizzt in image rather than being described in words. I would certainly be looking forward to getting the first copy.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2005 : 14:09:09
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Originally posted by sl smith
In case anyone was interested, here's a five-page preview of the first part of the comic book adaptation of Homeland.
Interestinggggg....thanks for the link to this preview. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2005 : 15:24:51
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Shadovar
Indeed very interesting websites, well for the first time, we could see Drizzt in image rather than being described in words. I would certainly be looking forward to getting the first copy.
We haven't seen an image of him before?
Of course , that bloke on the book-covers is his body-double. The golden forehead thing was obviously meant to be a subtle give-away. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 18 Jun 2005 : 15:31:10
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Originally posted by sl smith
In case anyone was interested, here's a five-page preview of the first part of the comic book adaptation of Homeland.
And I'm not particularly impressed. *goes back to reading his Flash Gordon collector's edition, mumbling about the Good old days* |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2005 : 23:26:06
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Of course, that bloke on the book-covers is his body-double. The golden forehead thing was obviously meant to be a subtle give-away.
Ah...it all makes sense now... |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2005 : 02:13:25
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 19 Jun 2005 : 02:27:58
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| Hmm, it appears to me that the Drizzt comic won't be so welcomed.....perhaps maybe a comic on the Time of Troubles would be more welcoming it seems to me. |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
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In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 19 Jun 2005 : 06:11:29
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Originally posted by Shadovar
Hmm, it appears to me that the Drizzt comic won't be so welcomed.....perhaps maybe a comic on the Time of Troubles would be more welcoming it seems to me.
I'd not particularly welcome that, either. I want them to do what they did with the Advanced Dungeons & Dragons and Forgotten Realms comic titles: tell new stories, using new characters. There's a thousand untold stories in the Realms -- let's tell a few of them, rather than rehashing ones we already know. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2005 : 06:30:52
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Its amazing how drow female's manage to work garters into such an otherwise functional wardrobe . . .
But yes, I agree with Wooly. I would love to see a new FR comic that follows a new adventuring company on a trek through the Realms. |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 19 Jun 2005 : 08:30:40
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| Hmm...new tales in a new comic on FR with new characters? Hmm, thats interesting, why didn't I thought of it...perhaps could anyone kindly suggest ideas how they expect the new FR comic to be(with new characters and plots)? It would be interesting to hear or should I post a topic on this? |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2005 : 13:10:05
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Originally posted by Shadovar
Hmm, it appears to me that the Drizzt comic won't be so welcomed.....perhaps maybe a comic on the Time of Troubles would be more welcoming it seems to me.
Oh Dark Maiden no....the horror, the damnable horror. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2005 : 13:11:14
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Originally posted by Shadovar
Hmm...new tales in a new comic on FR with new characters? Hmm, thats interesting, why didn't I thought of it...perhaps could anyone kindly suggest ideas how they expect the new FR comic to be(with new characters and plots)? It would be interesting to hear or should I post a topic on this?
I'd start a new topic if you wish to discuss that subject. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2005 : 16:59:45
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Originally posted by Shadovar
Hmm...new tales in a new comic on FR with new characters? Hmm, thats interesting, why didn't I thought of it...perhaps could anyone kindly suggest ideas how they expect the new FR comic to be(with new characters and plots)? It would be interesting to hear or should I post a topic on this?
I have no such expectations. I just want new characters and new stories. They did it with two previous comic titles, and they do it all the time with new novels. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 20 Jun 2005 : 03:10:46
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Shadovar
Hmm...new tales in a new comic on FR with new characters? Hmm, thats interesting, why didn't I thought of it...perhaps could anyone kindly suggest ideas how they expect the new FR comic to be(with new characters and plots)? It would be interesting to hear or should I post a topic on this?
I have no such expectations. I just want new characters and new stories. They did it with two previous comic titles, and they do it all the time with new novels.
That's probably the only way I'd consider picking up new comics -- I'm not after comic interpretations of old tales (although that DL Legend of Huma series was a work of art!).
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sl smith
Acolyte
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Posted - 29 Jun 2005 : 23:15:10
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I hope this isn't considered spam/overkill, but Devil's Due Publishing has just posted a six-page preview of the first issue of the comic. This preview includes text boxes and speech bubbles, so it gives a better impression of the adaptation, I think, than just the art did.
EDIT: Here's an early snapshot review of the comic book. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 30 Jun 2005 : 18:36:56
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Got the comic today, I have to say I've seen better fantasy art for comics (Soul Saga, Battle Chasers, and Soljourn to name a few) but I still enjoyed the first issue.
Vierna and Malice. Wowsers! I'll be their "second boy" any day.
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2005 : 18:41:46
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BTW, anyone that wants to get it but can't because they don't have a local store that carries it, I recommend this place...
http://www.comic-central.com
I've been dealing with them for years, very reputable.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2005 : 23:20:19
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Originally posted by SirUrza
Got the comic today, I have to say I've seen better fantasy art for comics (Soul Saga, Battle Chasers, and Soljourn to name a few) but I still enjoyed the first issue.
Vierna and Malice. Wowsers! I'll be their "second boy" any day.
The art in Battle Chasers was okay, but not my favorite. I loved the art in Sojourn -- it was prolly the best art I've ever seen in any comic, much less a fantasy one. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 01 Jul 2005 : 00:05:26
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You should check out Soul Saga then Wooly. ;)
But anyway, if you've seen the newer Lady Death art or any other stuff being put out by Avatar Press, it's a fair comparision to the art of Homeland.
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 01 Jul 2005 : 01:31:55
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Originally posted by SirUrza
BTW, anyone that wants to get it but can't because they don't have a local store that carries it, I recommend this place...
http://www.comic-central.com
I've been dealing with them for years, very reputable.
Right, thanks for the link. |
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- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 01 Jul 2005 : 02:54:52
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Faramicos
Senior Scribe
Denmark
468 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2005 : 17:38:51
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| I must tell you that i am utterly worried about the fact that my beloved Drizzt are being tossed into a comic thinking that 48 pages of pictures can ever do the great book any justice. I think it is a terrible assault on the greatnes and purity of the Dark Elf Trilogy... I hope i am wrong and they are great... But i doubt it. |
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sl smith
Acolyte
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Posted - 28 Jul 2005 : 22:05:42
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Originally posted by Faramicos
I must tell you that i am utterly worried about the fact that my beloved Drizzt are being tossed into a comic thinking that 48 pages of pictures can ever do the great book any justice.
You may be relieved to know that Homeland is being adapted in three parts, each of which is 48-pages long, then :)
Also, a six-page preview of part 2 of Homeland can be viewed here. |
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Belwar Dissengulp
Acolyte
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Posted - 29 Jul 2005 : 00:44:41
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you know and i hate doing this but it would take a whole dap and 100 pages mabe to right and i do not have time for that now, so i am going to make this short. and if you wish to argu with me thats fine. but i wont be on here again unless my sis is nice. all caps pay attention! DRIZZT MADE FORGOTTEN REALMS BETTER! wth drizzt sales spiked with drizzt readers fell into love with ras's books. IF IT WEREN'T FOR DRIZZT, WULGAR, BRUENOR, ETC. F.R. WOULDN'T BE AS IT IS TODAY! PEOPLE SAYING DRIZZT IS GETTING OLD IS LIKE SACRILAGE TO MY EARS! YES I LIKED THE CLERICAL QINTET BUT DRIZZT FAR SURPASSES ANY OTHER F.R. CHARACTER! and if you say drizzt is getting old, they need other books, that will put a tear on the company! if they kill him off the sales will drop imensilly!
IN OTHER WORDS...DRIZZT IS THE BEST AND WILL STAY THE BEST FOR THE REMAINDER OF HIS LIFE AND BEYOND! i WILL MISS HIM SORLY BUT ALL WE CAN HOPE IS THAT HE WON'T DIE! or else the company will drop sales imensilly |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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5402 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2005 : 01:55:27
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While I respect your opinion, allow me to expound upon mine. First off, I love the Icewind Dale trilogy and the Dark Elf Trilogy, and at one time the only character in all of fantasy literature that I liked more than Drizzt was Caramon from DragonLance. Then I kept reading . . .
When some of us talk about how we are tired of Drizzt, we don't nessisarily propose that he be killed, retire, or dissappear. Some characters just need some time off, or need to be put into new situations. In fact, I rather liked Drizzt working on Duedermont's ship hunting pirates. It was new and interesting, and he was constantly sulking.
Let me make an comparison. Drizzt is a great character. So is Spider-Man. During the early nineties, as one of Marvel's flagship characters, Spider-Man had four monthly books, a team up book, a quarterly book, and various one shot specials a year. And his sales started to fall. Especially during the fiasco affectionately known as the Clone Sage. The point being, you can have too much of a good character. Now, the Spider-Man movies are excellent, and the writting on the actual book has improved greatly, now that the number of books slowed down, some perspective was gained, etc.
The difference being that WOTC knows Drizzt sells, and as such definately nudges RAS to write Drizzt. You can't blame WOTC for wanting to make money, or RAS for writing his most popular character, but one of the reasons I shy away from getting too hard on RAS instead of simply the plots that I don't like, is that I think left to his own devices, RAS would be doing a few more diverse characters and/or types of stories, branching out more.
Also, I hate to bring this up, but as far as the setting as a whole goes, Drizzt has never really made a significant impact on the Realms. He is a regional character, well known in his sphere of influence. I give Kudos to RAS for making this an in-joke that Jarlaxle keeps expecting surface dwellers to be impressed when he drops Drizzt's name, and no one yet has heard of him. Bruenor is far more influential to the setting as a whole as far as RAS characters are concerned.
All this having been said, I will likely pick up the books. Especially for my step-son that has not the patience for reading novels, yet has torn voraciously through every X-Men graphic novel I have ever gotten him. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 29 Jul 2005 : 02:06:03
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I agree with KnightErrantJR. Just because he's a good character, it doesn't mean they need to keep giving us more of him.
Don't get me wrong, I like Drizzt. But I've been reading about him since the early 90's -- well over ten years now. I am, quite simply, tired of him. I got tired of reading about him a while ago, but we keep getting more and more...
I don't want to see him die. I just don't want to see him as much. I want a break from Drizzt. I've read so much about him that I've lost interest in him.
I also am of the opinion that RAS would like to branch out, but isn't really being given the chance. WotC knows Drizzt sells, so they keep wanting more of him. Certainly, the sales help buoy the entire product line, but as friend Knight points out, too much of the same thing can kill the market.
I'm not picking up these comics because I've had too much Drizzt. I've OD'ed on him, as it were. Maybe in another year or two, I'll be willing to give these books a shot, but for now, it's been too much in too short a timespan. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 29 Jul 2005 : 02:29:13
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Let me make an comparison. Drizzt is a great character. So is Spider-Man. During the early nineties, as one of Marvel's flagship characters, Spider-Man had four monthly books, a team up book, a quarterly book, and various one shot specials a year. And his sales started to fall. Especially during the fiasco affectionately known as the Clone Sage.
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The difference being that WOTC knows Drizzt sells, and as such definately nudges RAS to write Drizzt. You can't blame WOTC for wanting to make money, or RAS for writing his most popular character, but one of the reasons I shy away from getting too hard on RAS instead of simply the plots that I don't like, is that I think left to his own devices, RAS would be doing a few more diverse characters and/or types of stories, branching out more.
That's always been my view as well. RAS has populated each of his tales with wonderfully diverse characters who, if given the opportunity to shine on their own, would significantly expand upon his reader base considerably.
WotC seem to be a proponent of the "go with what works" technique. But a little diversity now and then is not only necessary, but expected as well... especially by those of us who have been fans of such characters and writers since the beginning. It's hard for the more recent devotees of all-things-Drizzt to see this in the same light as we do, simply because they have not "lived" with the character of Drizzt for as long as we have.
There's nothing wrong with that, it is just simply fact.
To make another comparison, look at Raistlin from DL. It's taken nearly twenty years for this well-loved character to be "retired" from the main line of DL novels. Many will say that Raistlin sold DL books, and for the most part, that is true, but I've been with Raistlin since the publication of Chronicles and I for one was happy to see him finally "hang up his staff" just a few years ago.
But yet, message boards are still plagued with requests from more recent fans saying "When are we going to see more about Raistlin?"
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Also, I hate to bring this up, but as far as the setting as a whole goes, Drizzt has never really made a significant impact on the Realms. He is a regional character, well known in his sphere of influence. I give Kudos to RAS for making this an in-joke that Jarlaxle keeps expecting surface dwellers to be impressed when he drops Drizzt's name, and no one yet has heard of him. Bruenor is far more influential to the setting as a whole as far as RAS characters are concerned.
Actually, that's something about the Drizzt novels that I've always liked. RAS tales never really impact upon the greater Realms (mostly), and so they are a refreshing break from the more recent trend of FR novels that concentrate on stories that have significant effect on the lives of people and places in the Realms.
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Don't get me wrong, I like Drizzt. But I've been reading about him since the early 90's -- well over ten years now. I am, quite simply, tired of him. I got tired of reading about him a while ago, but we keep getting more and more...
Yes, as I said earlier... for those of us who have been with Drizzt since the beginning, it is hard for us to look at such a concept as a "Drizzt comic" as welcome news.
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I don't want to see him die. I just don't want to see him as much. I want a break from Drizzt. I've read so much about him that I've lost interest in him.
And neither do I.
Although, I haven't lost interest in Drizzt. I'm approaching the entire phenomenon with a more "there's really nothing new here" frame of mind. I'm hungry for something else from the quill of RAS. 'Tis probably why I've now started to read his Demon Wars books.
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I'm not picking up these comics because I've had too much Drizzt. I've OD'ed on him, as it were. Maybe in another year or two, I'll be willing to give these books a shot, but for now, it's been too much in too short a timespan.
I'll probably pick them up in a year or two, but only as a TPB.
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Belwar Dissengulp
Acolyte
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Posted - 29 Jul 2005 : 04:36:44
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| Yes well... I am sorry. i didn't mean to go off blabbering but you gotta look at my point of view. I am Dark elf, icewnd, clerical quintet, legacy of drow, paths to darkneww, all of the spider queen books out as of now. i just love drizzt (not in a freaky way) iv ready dark elf 5 times. just hate to see ppl say there bored of him. in my opion if i could get a job like Ras's i would make books about drizzt till i die... i think he is awesome |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2005 : 05:16:38
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No worries. We've all got our opinions. 
I, too, have read just about all of the Drizzt books at least 5 times (save for the most recent ones)... I read quickly, and rereading books doesn't bother me. But I've not touched anything Drizzt-related for over a year now. I like variation, and all that Drizzt was just overwhelming for me. |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 29 Jul 2005 : 09:58:55
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| Salvatore IS taking a break from Drizzt. Promise of the witch king anyone? |
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