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George Krashos
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Posted - 01 Mar 2005 :  02:01:09  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Found this while surfing:

DRAGON MAGZINE #333 JULY 2005 Published for nearly 30 years, Dragon magazine is a defining icon of gaming culture; the official source of information regarding all aspects of the Dungeons & Dragons hobby providing players & DMs with the tools, utilities, and excitement they need to raise the level of their play experience. This issue includes new spells, weapons, and magic for the Dungeons & Dragons game. Journey to the Forgotten Realms with setting expert Eric L. Boyd’s look at long-dead empires; learn how the sun and moon can affect your campaign; and battle werewolves with a handful of moon-related incantations! Plus: the popular comic strips Dork Tower, Nodwick, and Zogonia! (Paizo Publishing) (CAUT: 4) Magazine, 8x11, FC SRP: $6.99

I'll have to ping him re what this is all about ...

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 01 Mar 2005 :  03:33:43  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In July? Shouldn't we be seeing Waterdhavian lore by then?

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Kajehase
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Posted - 01 Mar 2005 :  06:26:36  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, like the Moon Elf Crimelord Prestige Class.

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Hymn
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Posted - 01 Mar 2005 :  08:33:42  Show Profile Send Hymn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Perhaps they aim at some lore conserning Waterdeep. Can't remember what City/ empire had its hold there right now who's razed ruins lie at the site of Waterdeep. He have written other good lore though so I am just guessing here

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 01 Mar 2005 :  11:26:55  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

Yes, like the Moon Elf Crimelord Prestige Class.





quote:
Originally posted by Hymn

Perhaps they aim at some lore conserning Waterdeep. Can't remember what City/ empire had its hold there right now who's razed ruins lie at the site of Waterdeep. He have written other good lore though so I am just guessing here



That was something that certainly surprised me... I didn't expect that one.

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 01 Mar 2005 :  21:53:42  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I checke with Erik and this is an unreliable source. It's something he has to write long in advance and contents often change long before they see print.

As for what he was referring to ... it's either something I've promised him but haven't finished, or an article I wrote a while back that got bumped out a ways.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 02 Mar 2005 :  01:20:25  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Perhaps they aim at some lore conserning Waterdeep. Can't remember what City/ empire had its hold there right now who's razed ruins lie at the site of Waterdeep. He have written other good lore though so I am just guessing here


That was something that certainly surprised me... I didn't expect that one.



Thank-you, thank-you very much. I thought people would like the idea of Aelinthaldaar. As to what it means in the modern realms, I'll leave you with the esteemed Eric Boyd ...

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VEDSICA
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Posted - 02 Mar 2005 :  15:54:30  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So this Aelinthaldaar was originally on the site of where Waterdeep stands today?Wouldn't that make it part of Undermountain?.Well at least some of it possibly?

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 02 Mar 2005 :  17:30:14  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aelinthaldaar was largely on the surface. (See a bit about the Crypts of Aelinthaldaar in Lost Empires of Faerun for one piece that wasn't.) Melairbode was underground (what is now considered Undermountain).

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 02 Mar 2005 :  22:55:02  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And it was razed by High Magic, which neatly explains why there was no previous lore about it.

... Of course, it does raise the possibility of a nearby (outside Waterdeep, obviously) dungeon that was part of Aelinthaldaar, but distant enough to survive the razing spell.

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ericlboyd
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The original reference is actually from Roger Moore's "Perilous Portals" article ... the first one in that long-running series on the WoTC website.

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Kajehase
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Posted - 16 Aug 2005 :  11:10:06  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So, I managed to pick up this issue yesterday (3 weeks after I 'd picked up #334 in a different store 300 meters further down the same street), and while it doesn't contain any Eric L Boyd-guided journeys, it does have a crunch-article (with enough "fluff," or lore as I prefer to call it, to make me interested) about Realms-specific religious relics.
However, there was a few things in the flavour-texts that bothered me, mostly this

quote:
from Dragon Magazine #333, page 54 (my highlight)

During the Time of Troubles, Sune rescued Sharess, goddess of sensual fulfillment, from her darkly hedonistic passions and near subsumption by Shar. In their escape from the Dark Goddess' grasp, threads of Sune's hair fell to the Material Plane and formed into perfectly braided bands. ...


The thing that bothers me with this is that I was under the impression that the whole episode actually took place on the Material Plane (in the harem of the syl-pasha of Calimshan), whereas the highlighted text, to me at least, implies that it didn't.

And on a less Realms-related note - It's good to see I'm not alone in thinking Robin Hobb's novels are an excellent source of inspiration for role-playing adventures. Anyone thinking of running a campaign in which Iyraclea, "the Ice Queen," features would do well to read the final book of her Tawny Man-trilogy ,if they have the time - it's looong (but very good).

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Dargoth
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Posted - 16 Aug 2005 :  23:42:08  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
*smirk*

Can you just pictures it

Sune: OWWW! Let go of my hair!

Shar: No you let go of my hair Owwww!

Sune: Bitch!

Shar: Harlot!


*Hair pulled again*

Sune: OWWW!
Shar: OWWW!


As for uses for Sunes Hair, I remeber in Baldurs Gate 1 that you could get the hair of a Nympth and make a cloak out of it


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warlockco
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Posted - 17 Aug 2005 :  00:16:36  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

*smirk*

Can you just pictures it

Sune: OWWW! Let go of my hair!

Shar: No you let go of my hair Owwww!

Sune: Bitch!

Shar: Harlot!


*Hair pulled again*

Sune: OWWW!
Shar: OWWW!


As for uses for Sunes Hair, I remeber in Baldurs Gate 1 that you could get the hair of a Nympth and make a cloak out of it







Good one Dargoth.

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