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Chosen of Bane
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 Posted - 11 Nov 2005 : 18:43:07
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Ok, I have a question about the Fangshields -
How exactly do Blink Dogs come up with 100gp? That is crazy. I just don't know if I see BDs being able to cough up 100gp a year, that's a lot of money! I suppose the Giant Eagles can just swoop down and eat an Orc Caravan or something, but Blink Dogs don't even have thumbs to pick pocket! What's going on here?
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They do indeed lack the opposable thumb. That's it, I quit this Realms stuff...
For the record, I was joking... I really don't care about the membership fees that Blinkdog's are paying. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 11 Nov 2005 : 18:57:43
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Oh, I just think it's funny - it was never supposed to be serious. I would have applauded Sean for the book before if I was really going to harp on Blink Dogs.  It's just one of those funny concepts you have to wrap your mind around.
Blink Dog: GRRRRRRR
Orc: Oh it's just a... where'd it go?
Blind Dog: Sweet! One blink, and I'm 10gp richer! Woohoo! I knew I'd make my dues!!
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seankreynolds
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 11 Nov 2005 : 19:42:53
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| That _would_ be funny. :) |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 11 Nov 2005 : 20:11:17
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Go for it, thanks for asking. :)
My thanks. :) |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 12 Nov 2005 : 04:19:45
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Originally posted by seankreynolds
The Daylight Adaptation things is my fault; I was going off the text version of the book, not the errata'd version, and didn't know they turned into a regular feat (which is a good thing, there's no reason it should be limited to 1st-level characters ... then again, most feats shouldn't be limited to 1st-level characters).
Ah okay, thanks for the clarification. |
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Cam Beul
Acolyte
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Posted - 12 Nov 2005 : 05:02:20
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But, why would a blink dog need gold? With whom would they trade that can speak their language? What would they purchase, and if nothing, why would they hoard it? How long would it take them to count out gold pieces and seperate them with their mouths? With no opposable thumbs, who would tie the coin purses to their bodies? If they held them in their mouths how would they communicate?
Ah, now I see that it was all a joke. Nevermind. |
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BlackAce
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Nov 2005 : 21:21:37
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D'oh! Stupid NDA's!
Sean, if I'd known there were going to be such a nice selection of none epic NPCs included, I would've prodded you to add a certain Rashemmi Ranger and his miniature giant space hamster. 
Looks good from what I'm hearing. Still awaiting my own copy though. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 13 Nov 2005 : 21:24:29
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Originally posted by BlackAce
D'oh! Stupid NDA's!
Sean, if I'd known there were going to be such a nice selection of none epic NPCs included, I would've prodded you to add a certain Rashemmi Ranger and his miniature giant space hamster.
Looks good from what I'm hearing. Still awaiting my own copy though.
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 13 Nov 2005 : 21:25:24
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Originally posted by Cam Beul
But, why would a blink dog need gold? With whom would they trade that can speak their language? What would they purchase, and if nothing, why would they hoard it? How long would it take them to count out gold pieces and seperate them with their mouths? With no opposable thumbs, who would tie the coin purses to their bodies? If they held them in their mouths how would they communicate?
Ah, now I see that it was all a joke. Nevermind.
Always think of Monty Python -
"It's not a question of where he grips it, it's a simple question of weight-ratios!"
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 14 Nov 2005 : 01:33:07
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| Is there much difference between the Knight of the Weave Prc in CoV and Spellsword in Complete Warrior? |
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seankreynolds
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 : 01:52:25
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| Considering that I've never read the Spellsword PrC, I would be suprised if they were similar. The KOTW are basically a branch of arcane paladins who draw on the power of the Weave directly to protect it. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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4607 Posts |
Posted - 14 Nov 2005 : 02:13:48
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| Are the Knights of the Mystic fire and the Knights of the Weave the same organisation or does Mystra now have 2 seperate Paladin orders? |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
1695 Posts |
Posted - 14 Nov 2005 : 03:14:26
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Knight of the Weave PrC is more like the War Mage core class.
Plus they get a form of Spellfire.
Their spell selection is a mix of Arcane and Divine, but are treated as Charisma based Arcane Casters.
They are members of the Guardians of the Weave.
Mystic Fire Knights, are Paladins with a focus on spellcasting and spell denial. Their Smite Evil has the added effect of hindering an Evil persons ability to cast spells and use certain magic items.
Their Spellshatter ability is a melee based targetted Greater Dispel Magic.
Knights of the Mystic Fire are an Order of Paladins and Rangers (also know as the Order of the Shooting Star) that follow Mystra. They are Temple Guardians and questers of lost ancient magic.
So two different organizations. |
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seankreynolds
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 : 05:25:46
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{They are members of the Guardians of the Weave.}
Actually, they're allies of the GOTW, but not necessarily part of the GOTW. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 14 Nov 2005 : 06:22:42
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For those who have the tome, did a certain sidebar on the monarchy of Impiltur make the editorial cut?
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 : 07:04:35
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| The History of House Heltharn of Impiltur is covered under the write-up for The Knights of Imphras II. It's two full pages of text -- a bit more than a sidebar. |
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Bocklin
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 : 11:29:13
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Yep. Not only did the main text made it to the final book, but you also have a side bar with some additional info about the disappearance of the knights and references to what happened to their swords. It refers you to CoR for the other side of the story (i.e. what really happened to them), which I find really neat: it stengthens the combinaison between both publications.
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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1695 Posts |
Posted - 14 Nov 2005 : 12:19:21
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Originally posted by seankreynolds
{They are members of the Guardians of the Weave.}
Actually, they're allies of the GOTW, but not necessarily part of the GOTW.
Yes and No, though I prob should have clarified that a number of them are from the Guardians of the Weave. But until you said they were allies, I had to go back and reread it vs what I had posted. 
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Most Knights of the Weave come from the ranks of the Guardians of the Weave, the Church of Mystra, or the Church of Azuth.
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 14 Nov 2005 : 22:43:32
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
The History of House Heltharn of Impiltur is covered under the write-up for The Knights of Imphras II. It's two full pages of text -- a bit more than a sidebar.
 All is good in the world. Thanks for the reply.
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 15 Nov 2005 : 11:34:25
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More maps from Champions of Valor
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mw/20051101x
Is it just me or does this place look like the "Elven race embassy" in the Races of Faerun Web Enhancement? |
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Bocklin
Learned Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 15 Nov 2005 : 16:05:57
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Originally posted by Dargoth
More maps from Champions of Valor
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mw/20051101x
Is it just me or does this place look like the "Elven race embassy" in the Races of Faerun Web Enhancement?
I thought that the Elven embassy was underground?
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Nov 2005 : 05:43:15
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They wanted us to include a couple of psionic feats, and as the only "psionic" PC race in the FRCS is the duergar, I centered the psi feats around them. Duegar can be valorous, too -- in fact, anyone can be valorous, even if they're evil.
Why didnt you expand on the Psionic organisations like Kaliesh'erai or Stray thoughts describe in PGTF instead of the Duegar? They would be considered to be more Valorous than the Grey Dwarves |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 19 Nov 2005 : 14:27:56
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I've just picked up this book and am pretty impressed. Thrilled with all the Impiltur material that Eric and I had cooked up being included.
On an initial skim through I'm wondering why anyone in their right mind would cast sanctified spells. Am I missing something here re the costs of these spells? Is the attribute loss temporary? If so, they are fine, if not, then no-one would cast them if they were going to permanently lose STR or CON. Look at "Animate with Spirit" - sure, it gives you a powerful ally, but after 10 minutes/level have passed you've just blown 1d3 STR points for a couple of encounters in game time. I'm sure I'm missing something here.
Really liked the fact that we got some new swift/immediate action spells - these were sorely missing.
More comments as I read more.
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seankreynolds
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
91 Posts |
Posted - 19 Nov 2005 : 17:35:46
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{Why didnt you expand on the Psionic organisations like Kaliesh'erai or Stray thoughts describe in PGTF instead of the Duegar? They would be considered to be more Valorous than the Grey Dwarves}
Because elves already get all the good stuff, and because I consider the entire population of duergar to be more important than the 40-odd people in the Stray Thoughts.
{On an initial skim through I'm wondering why anyone in their right mind would cast sanctified spells. Am I missing something here re the costs of these spells? Is the attribute loss temporary? If so, they are fine, if not, then no-one would cast them if they were going to permanently lose STR or CON. Look at "Animate with Spirit" - sure, it gives you a powerful ally, but after 10 minutes/level have passed you've just blown 1d3 STR points for a couple of encounters in game time. I'm sure I'm missing something here.}
The spells say if it's ability damage (temporary) or drain (permanent), and you can always use spells like restoration to remove the drain or damage later.
(And in the case of the animate with the spirit spell, those wacky developers went to town on it. My original writeup has it based on lesser planar ally, but one level lower because of the sanctified sacrifice of 1d3 Strength damage, whereas the printed version is the same level as LPA but has a much shorter duration and has it 1d3 Strength _drain_. In other words, why not just cast LPA? Sheesh, why do I bother to design these things if they're just going to completely redo them. Maybe next time instead of 5,000 words on various game mechanics I'll just include a list of ideas and let them develop them as they see fit, less work for me.) |
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Dhomal
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 19 Nov 2005 : 21:46:45
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Hello-
Sean - just wondering - but I saw on the WOTC site recently that they have a design an adventure contest. IN that - they give some specifics for writing it - and part of it is in relation to new game mechanics - and another part is in relation to calculations for stat blocks.
One of the requirements/suggestions - was to add your calculations (in a different color) to justify your choices. Is that something that you do when you write something like CoV? I assume that you could do that - and then it would give the designers a heads-up as to what you were thinking when you designed it a certain way. Just wondering if its something that they prefer Not to get from the designers or what.
BTW - I am just starting to read CoV - and even though I am not that far along (page 16!) I am pleased with the information so far. The section on alignment conflicts that I just finished reading was quite informative - and I like the touch of including other-than FR examples, such as Robin Hood, alongside of actual in-FR examples.
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Cam Beul
Acolyte
USA
27 Posts |
Posted - 20 Nov 2005 : 00:03:05
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| I finally found a copy at my bookstore. I liked it. Was wondering who in the right mind would sacrifice Endurance for +5 Move Silently for one round as often as 1/2 ranger level per day, however. And besides crunch attributed to the Broken One like finding a Loviatar worshipper once per day instead of wholeness of body, I really liked what was offered for monks, especially the Sun Soul Monk and Carmendine Monk feats. |
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seankreynolds
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
91 Posts |
Posted - 20 Nov 2005 : 00:39:23
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{One of the requirements/suggestions - was to add your calculations (in a different color) to justify your choices. Is that something that you do when you write something like CoV? I assume that you could do that - and then it would give the designers a heads-up as to what you were thinking when you designed it a certain way. Just wondering if its something that they prefer Not to get from the designers or what.}
Yes, they normally prefer that people call out that stuff (what we call the "show your math" stat block). |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 20 Nov 2005 : 00:49:05
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Thanks for the reply Sean. Didn't see the distinction between drain and damage - it makes much more sense now. And they nerfed your "Animate with the Spirit" spell good. Maybe you should get onto them for some official errata ...
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 20 Nov 2005 : 01:03:25
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| What the story with Changling in the Realms, I noticed repeated references to them in CoV have they been shoe horned into the Realms now? (their origionally from Eberron) |
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seankreynolds
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
91 Posts |
Posted - 20 Nov 2005 : 01:11:30
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| I know of only two references (Monastery Orphan region and Selűnite Foundling region) in the turnover to "changelings," and in both cases they refer to the classical definition of that term (a child swapped in by the faeries) rather than the Eberron-race definition. If there are others or they are more explicit in referring to the Eberron race, that wasn't from the authors. |
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