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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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 Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 12:00:56
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Hang the Hamster! Hang the Hamster!
Hehehe
How are the "3 races of valor", Wooly? |
Dwarf, DM, husband, and proud of this! :P
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 17:45:29
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Honestly, I've barely flipped thru the book... In fact, last night, after my girlfriend left, I flopped down on my bed to flip thru the book. I fell asleep, instead.  |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 18:01:06
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| Ah, you fell victim to the cushy pillow, 'tis a mighty wapon indeed Just be lucky you weren't subjected to the comfy chair as well - and unless we get a detailed review soon you will. [menacing laugh] |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 18:30:30
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| Please tell me there`s info on the celestial paragons in it. |
If I were a ranger, I would pick NDA for my favorite enemy |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 19:20:42
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Originally posted by khorne
Please tell me there`s info on the celestial paragons in it.
Why not just use the Book of Exalted Deeds? |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 20:53:39
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Now these Character Options are nifty... It's got this Regional Backgrounds section. Each one has a title, a brief blurb about the background, and then the appropriate Region, Automatic Languages, Bonus Languages, Favored Deities, Regional Feats, and Bonus Equipment.
So far, that's all I've looked at. I've not even flipped thru the book yet. I was just scanning the table of contents, and I had to see what "Bastard of Azoun" was...
My mouth is watering. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 23:31:51
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I was just in my "reading room" flipping thru the book some more... I stopped to read about a couple of the "Agents of Good". These are ready-made NPCs with full write-ups. There's several of them, and it's diverse. I saw a dwarf, a gnome, some humans, an ogre dire werebear ranger, a good-aligned werewolf, a centaur, a giant eagle... Niftiness, thinks I! 
Oh, and there's new Initiate feats, new spells, and -- gasp! -- only four (yes, four!) PrCs. 
I didn't see celestial paragons.
Kajehase, why do you keep skipping the rack?  |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 04 Nov 2005 23:38:48 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 23:35:24
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Oh, and there's a notable artistic mistake. The write-up for Dornavver clearly states, more than once, that it's a sword. But the associated pic is a nifty-looking warhammer.
On the topic of magical items, though I've not read it yet, I did notice a listing for Dukar Hand Coral. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 04 Nov 2005 23:39:16 |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 05 Nov 2005 : 14:04:37
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Oh, and there's new Initiate feats, new spells, and -- gasp! -- only four (yes, four!) PrCs.
Kajehase, why do you keep skipping the rack?
So, which new deities get Initiate feats?
And what do you mean rack? The only members of the Spanish Inquisition I've ever seen only used the comfy chair and the cushy pillows. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 05 Nov 2005 : 15:25:43
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Originally posted by Kajehase
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Oh, and there's new Initiate feats, new spells, and -- gasp! -- only four (yes, four!) PrCs.
Kajehase, why do you keep skipping the rack?
So, which new deities get Initiate feats?
And what do you mean rack? The only members of the Spanish Inquisition I've ever seen only used the comfy chair and the cushy pillows.
Anhur, Arvoreen, Baravar Cloakshadow, Eilistraee, the Holy Realm (several faiths possible for this one: Chauntea, Helm, Lathander, Selūne, Sune), Horus-Re, Milil, Nobanion, Torm, and Tymora.
And remember, they tried the rack first, but they only had a dishrack handy, so it didn't work. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 05 Nov 2005 : 16:40:07
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
So, which new deities get Initiate feats?
And what do you mean rack? The only members of the Spanish Inquisition I've ever seen only used the comfy chair and the cushy pillows.
Anhur, Arvoreen, Baravar Cloakshadow, Eilistraee, the Holy Realm (several faiths possible for this one: Chauntea, Helm, Lathander, Selūne, Sune), Horus-Re, Milil, Nobanion, Torm, and Tymora.
And remember, they tried the rack first, but they only had a dishrack handy, so it didn't work.
So still no love for Sune on her own , bit strange considering her portfolio.
And well, my dishrack is always filled up, so I don't even bother checking anymore |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 05 Nov 2005 : 21:58:25
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| This book has Realms-specific horse breeds! I know some people will be happy about that. |
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
628 Posts |
Posted - 05 Nov 2005 : 22:01:14
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I skimmed through it at the convention today...when I got to the npc's in the back I recieved a nice shock. Besides sharing the same name & devilish good looks , I am in no way related to the ranger werebear...err best to my knowledge...
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 05 Nov 2005 : 23:14:41
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| Still no contents page.... You'll keep Wooly, just you wait when the next FR source book comes out in Australia first and the US is left waiting for weeks this teasing will be paid back in full measure!!!! |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2005 : 01:13:31
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
This book has Realms-specific horse breeds! I know some people will be happy about that.
My mother and sister are probably wondering why I stopped singing along to Opeth and started screaming "Nice! Awesome!" at the top of my lungs. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 06 Nov 2005 : 01:30:49
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
This book has Realms-specific horse breeds! I know some people will be happy about that.
Neato .
Any new breeds mentioned, or are they merely detailing the few we've learned about previously?
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
1695 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2005 : 03:47:33
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
This book has Realms-specific horse breeds! I know some people will be happy about that.
Neato .
Any new breeds mentioned, or are they merely detailing the few we've learned about previously?
Amphail Gray - Light Horse
Calimite - Light Warhorse
Chionthar - Light Horse
Cormyrean Destrier - Heavy Warhorse
Dales Pony - Pony
Dambrah - Light Warhorse
Hammer Pony - War Pony
Island Pony - Pony
Kromlor - Heavy Horse
Lhesperan - Light Horse
Meth - Light Warhorse
Nars - Heavy Horse
Raurin - Light Warhorse
Semphari - Light Horse
Shaaran Zebra - Light Horse
Shad'iar - Light Warhorse
Sosser - Light Horse
Steppe - Light Horse
Tharurr - Heavy Warhorse
Uglib - Donkey
Whiteshield - War Pony
Looks like a bunch of new ones to me. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
1695 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2005 : 03:53:31
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As to a Table of Contents, that is way way more than I want to type, about 120 or so listings.
However a very very very brief:
Introduction
Chapter 1: The Valorous Hero
Chapter 2: Character Options
Regional Backgrounds
Feats
Substitution Levels
Spells
Magic Items
Chapter 3: Valorous Organizations
Chpater 4: Prestige Classes
Knight of the Flying Hunt
Knight of the Weave
Moonsea Skysentinel
Triadic Knight
Chapter 5: Places of Valor
Cave of Brother Luiman
Chapel of Resounding Justice
Cullrin Fields
Darkmaiden's Leap
Planar Touchstones
Mholor Durinhal
Teumyshaaril
The Weeping Garden
Chapter 6: Agents of Good
NPCS
Bakra Hispul
Brenvol Whitebrow
Breyarg Stonebreaker
Dalthyria
Dorgafal Shiverock
Kerri Talindras
Ramas-Teth Ankh
Rindon Wastho
Sarade Gedreghost
Stormwing
Monsters
Battle Effigy
Equines
I haven't had a chance to read this yet though. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2005 : 06:01:44
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Originally posted by warlockco
As to a Table of Contents, that is way way more than I want to type, about 120 or so listings.
That's the same reason I've not typed it up... Besides which, my typing skills are not great. Typing up that contents list would take me a lot of time, and that's time I could actually be reading! I'm not trying to tease anyone, I'm just not wanting to torture myself by typing all that stuff.
I've only read part of it, thus far. I read about a couple of the magic items, all of those NPCs, the horses, and about the place that's sacred to Eilistraee. |
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msatran
Learned Scribe
USA
210 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2005 : 08:18:27
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I think they probably should have saved the horse breeds for the web enhancements and had a complete list of Paladin Deity Substitutions.
I'm sorry, a bunch of different stats that are already hell on earth to advance as creatures (Advancing animals for Paladins, Druids, and Rangers is a math nightmare) are secondary to what's on the character sheets of your PCs. If you're going to put in a bunch of crunchy stuff, do it in the order that the players will require it. |
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Bocklin
Learned Scribe
Germany
151 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2005 : 11:05:25
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Hi Msatran,
They only use 4 pages for all the horses breed. And you have 17 pages of substitution levels to fine-tune your Paladin/Monk/etc. according to her faith. So you'll be happy
Bocklin |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2005 : 17:02:45
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quote:
Originally posted by msatran
I think they probably should have saved the horse breeds for the web enhancements and had a complete list of Paladin Deity Substitutions.
I'm sorry, a bunch of different stats that are already hell on earth to advance as creatures (Advancing animals for Paladins, Druids, and Rangers is a math nightmare) are secondary to what's on the character sheets of your PCs. If you're going to put in a bunch of crunchy stuff, do it in the order that the players will require it.
No offense, but you should wait until you know the full contents of a book before you complain about them. |
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Gray Richardson
Master of Realmslore
USA
1291 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2005 : 17:07:03
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The Equines are great! And this is very important knowledge, if you think about it.
Mounts are very important to paladins or any character whose conception involves a mount. This is of tremendous practical value. (Good crunch!)
And there is so much valuable lore tied up in the breeding of horses, their history and the values of the cultures that breed them. (Good fluff!)
I am pleased to see that Eric Boyd's and Tom Costa's entry on horses from their Realms Bestiary made it into official canon. Great work guys! |
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Thysl
Seeker
USA
64 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2005 : 18:35:41
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I am pleased to see that Eric Boyd's and Tom Costa's entry on horses from their Realms Bestiary made it into official canon. Great work guys!
Seconded! The horse breeds are a very nice addition. If you don't mind me asking, are the CoV stats similar to the original Realm's Beastiary templates, are they the same?
Also: Moonsea Skysentinel? Guys, PLEASE, give me a small teaser. What is this? |
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Torkwaret
Seeker
Poland
82 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2005 : 19:50:57
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| Could someone (Bocklin ?? ) give a list of deities for those substitution levels ?? (I'm especially curious if there is a substitution for a Paladin of Kelemvor and if yes, is it any good ) |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
1695 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2005 : 20:07:52
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Originally posted by Torkwaret
Could someone (Bocklin ?? ) give a list of deities for those substitution levels ?? (I'm especially curious if there is a substitution for a Paladin of Kelemvor and if yes, is it any good )
Berronar Valkyrie (Female Dwarf Paladin - Berronar Truesilver)
Broken One (Monk - Ilmater)
Claw of the Sun and the Ankh (Paladin - Horus-Re)
Crescent Moon Knight (Paladin - Clangeddin Silverbeard or Selune)
Darksong Knight (Fighter - Eilistraee)
Dukar (Wizard - Sea of Fallen Stars)
Eternal Order (Paladin - Kelemvor)
Fangshields Barbarian (Non-Humanoid)
Fangshields Druid (Non-Humanoid)
Fangshields Ranger (Non-Humanoid)
Golden Cup (Paladin - Ilmater)
Golden Lion (Paladin - Torm)
Holy Judge (Paladin - Tyr)
Lion Legionnair (Paladin - Nobanion)
Mystic Fire Knight (Paladin - Mystra)
Noble Heart (Paladin - Ilmater)
Phoenix Disciple (Monk - Kossuth)
Purple Staff (Cleric - Chauntea, Helm, Lathander, Nobanion, Selune, Sun)
Red Falcon (Paladin - Red Knight)
Ruby Rose Knight (Paladin - Sune)
Shadow Sword (Ranger - Shaundakul)
Shooting Star (Ranger - Mystra)
Vigilant Eye of Helm (Paladin - Helm)
Wary Swordknight (Paladin - Arvoreen) |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 06 Nov 2005 : 20:09:48
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by msatran
I think they probably should have saved the horse breeds for the web enhancements and had a complete list of Paladin Deity Substitutions.
I'm sorry, a bunch of different stats that are already hell on earth to advance as creatures (Advancing animals for Paladins, Druids, and Rangers is a math nightmare) are secondary to what's on the character sheets of your PCs. If you're going to put in a bunch of crunchy stuff, do it in the order that the players will require it.
No offense, but you should wait until you know the full contents of a book before you complain about them.
Yes quite right, hold judgement until you actually hold the book and read it.
I mean, I wasn't entirely thrilled with the book at first, when I heard was SKR being one of the authors, but so far the book appears to be great. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
1695 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2005 : 20:15:10
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Originally posted by Thysl
Moonsea Skysentinel? Guys, PLEASE, give me a small teaser. What is this?
Hope this helps
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Champions of Valor
Moonsea Skysentinels are the eyes in the sky for the Knights of the North, scouting the landscape, looking for evidence of Zhentarim activity. They employ trained dire hawks as swift aerial mounts and a variety of combat tactics that allow them to swoop in, strike enemies quickly, and race away again before reinforcements can arrive. Whether spying on a caravan flying the banner of the Black Network, delivering battle orders to a Knight raiding party, or hunting and dueling one fo the hated Zhentarim Skymages, a Moonsea Skysentinel is the light cavalry of the Knight's forces
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Thysl
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 06 Nov 2005 : 22:13:35
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Exciting, thanks Warlock!
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