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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 :  05:06:00  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Return to Undermountain, An Introduction is now posted. Enjoy.

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The maps are INCREDIBLE! I can't wait for the rest!

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Beat you. I said 2 hr's ago it was going to be updated. :)

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SiriusBlack
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quote:
Originally posted by kuje31

Beat you. I said 2 hr's ago it was going to be updated. :)



Like I'm going to believe a scribe from Candlekeep without seeing proof.

Room 1: The Bottom of the Well (EL --) has also been posted.
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by kuje31

Beat you. I said 2 hr's ago it was going to be updated. :)



Like I'm going to believe a scribe from Candlekeep without seeing proof.

Room 1: The Bottom of the Well (EL --) has also been posted.



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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 03:02:37: WOTC_Mark said this should be updated tonight around midnight eastern. :)

http://www.candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3871

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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quote:
Originally posted by Melfius

The maps are INCREDIBLE! I can't wait for the rest!



If only they were numbered.
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SiriusBlack
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quote:
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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 03:02:37: WOTC_Mark said this should be updated tonight around midnight eastern. :)

http://www.candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3871



I meant proof of an actual update. Why do you think I was checking the WOTC site? I saw your post.
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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
I meant proof of an actual update. Why do you think I was checking the WOTC site? I saw your post.



Ah. I was just being testy, sorry. :)

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George Krashos
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The first two installments look quite promising. I'm wondering now whether the series will be a straight 3.X translation of the Undermountain boxed sets, or whether things will be updated to the 1370s DR. In other words, if I see Kuthil's kobold ambush in a couple of months (when the events of Stardock got him and his buddies out of Undermountain), then I'll know it's a straight translation, not an update. All in all, I'm looking forward to seeing more.

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While a strict translation is good, an updates edition would be better.

And, if it could tie into the upcoming release of the City of Splendors tome... Well that would be just grand .

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So rare that wizards.com has anything worth making a PDF out of. :)

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Wow.I remember DM'ing The Ruins of Undermoutain.I loved this boxed set.Reading The Bottom of the Well section.There was scribling on the wall mentioning the Metal Mage.Was that Trobriand?One of Halater's apprentices???

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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by VEDSICA

Wow.I remember DM'ing The Ruins of Undermoutain.I loved this boxed set.Reading The Bottom of the Well section.There was scribling on the wall mentioning the Metal Mage.Was that Trobriand?One of Halater's apprentices???



It should be since he created the metal creatures found in the lower levels. :)

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by VEDSICA

Wow.I remember DM'ing The Ruins of Undermoutain.I loved this boxed set.Reading The Bottom of the Well section.There was scribling on the wall mentioning the Metal Mage.Was that Trobriand?One of Halater's apprentices???



Yup. He was described in the second boxed set.

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Steven Schend
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

The first two installments look quite promising. I'm wondering now whether the series will be a straight 3.X translation of the Undermountain boxed sets, or whether things will be updated to the 1370s DR. In other words, if I see Kuthil's kobold ambush in a couple of months (when the events of Stardock got him and his buddies out of Undermountain), then I'll know it's a straight translation, not an update. All in all, I'm looking forward to seeing more.

-- George Krashos



I'll be more amazed and impressed if they remember to factor in the changes and details from an Undermountain article I'd done for DRAGON long ago (long enough that I don't remember the issue #, but it wasn't the Skullport article--more to do with a priest of Deneir keeping notes and updates of things happening in Undermountain).

As George said, what we've seen looks impressive. Here's hoping it's all this good.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

The first two installments look quite promising. I'm wondering now whether the series will be a straight 3.X translation of the Undermountain boxed sets, or whether things will be updated to the 1370s DR. In other words, if I see Kuthil's kobold ambush in a couple of months (when the events of Stardock got him and his buddies out of Undermountain), then I'll know it's a straight translation, not an update. All in all, I'm looking forward to seeing more.

-- George Krashos



I'll be more amazed and impressed if they remember to factor in the changes and details from an Undermountain article I'd done for DRAGON long ago (long enough that I don't remember the issue #, but it wasn't the Skullport article--more to do with a priest of Deneir keeping notes and updates of things happening in Undermountain).

As George said, what we've seen looks impressive. Here's hoping it's all this good.

SES



Are you referring to "The Reports From Undermountain"? That one was in issue 227, and was told by a Tymoran priest, Adama Miiralln. 'Tis another I have taken the time to copy over to Word.

Other Dragon articles on Undermountain:

Issue 167: "Understanding Undermountain"
Issue 172: "Seeing the Sights in Skullport"
Issue 176: "If You Need Help -- Ask The Drow!"

And I have those in Word, too.

Anyway, I, too, hope they keep your changes in mind as they do these articles.

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The Sage
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Don't we all...

I remember that I missed the article for the changes to Skullport. Still, if they're attempting to re-create Undermountain for 3e, it would seem "unfinished" if they were to not at least mention or detail the additions and changes that have been made in the past. It would be nice. . Whether it happens, is another consideration itself... .

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Don't we all...

I remember that I missed the article for the changes to Skullport. Still, if they're attempting to re-create Undermountain for 3e, it would seem "unfinished" if they were to not at least mention or detail the additions and changes that have been made in the past. It would be nice. . Whether it happens, is another consideration itself... .




Shall I pass it along? As I say, I have it conveniently in Word... Although I have to admit, the map came out a bit blurry when I copied it over. But hey, all the other info is legible!

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The Sage
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I would appreciate that .

After looking through my archives, I've also noticed that my copy of Dragon #227 is severly crumpled. Could you possibly send those details along as well?

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

I would appreciate that .

After looking through my archives, I've also noticed that my copy of Dragon #227 is severly crumpled. Could you possibly send those details along as well?




Uh, Sage, the article I speak of comes from issue 227...

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Ah. I'd just assumed you thought I was talking about the 'Skullport' article from #172, which was the first one I mentioned that I'd missed... .



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quote:
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Ah. I'd just assumed you thought I was talking about the 'Skullport' article from #172, which was the first one I mentioned that I'd missed... .






Whoops! My bad... But no worries, both articles should now be in your inbox.

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I wonder how Halaster's new found sanity will effect the old dungeon?
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Room 2: Down on Their Luck (EL 2) is now posted.
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I'm not entirely sure why, but I'm finding the 'Relevant Skill Checks' side-bar a little annoying.

I know they're only suggestions, but I prefer setting my own DC for specific skills in these types of adventures.

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quote:
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I'm not entirely sure why, but I'm finding the 'Relevant Skill Checks' side-bar a little annoying.



I kinda like the format they have set up.

quote:

I know they're only suggestions, but I prefer setting my own DC for specific skills in these types of adventures.



Nothing to say you can't adjust them.

Is it just me or is this room very generic? I know every room can't be overflowing with Realms flavor. However, I wonder if this series is going to turn into "Adventure Locales" part II.
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

I'm not entirely sure why, but I'm finding the 'Relevant Skill Checks' side-bar a little annoying.



I kinda like the format they have set up.

quote:

I know they're only suggestions, but I prefer setting my own DC for specific skills in these types of adventures.



Nothing to say you can't adjust them.
I just realised . I hadn't read the article properly to begin with... and I'd just assumed that they were 'sugggested' values for the skills to be used.

quote:
Is it just me or is this room very generic? I know every room can't be overflowing with Realms flavor. However, I wonder if this series is going to turn into "Adventure Locales" part II.
I felt the same way when I skimmed over the article. I thought it was because I skimmed over it that it read "bland". However, taking the time to read through it properly, a tidbit or three of useful Realms information would've been nice. But then, as what is fast becoming known as "the WotC way", these articles have to be generic so that DMs from other settings can make special use of them as well.

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But then, as what is fast becoming known as "the WotC way", these articles have to be generic so that DMs from other settings can make special use of them as well.



Why even be teases and have them in Undermountain? If they want a generic series of rooms for a dungeon, they can create something for use on the regular D&D page.
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
But then, as what is fast becoming known as "the WotC way", these articles have to be generic so that DMs from other settings can make special use of them as well.



Why even be teases and have them in Undermountain? If they want a generic series of rooms for a dungeon, they can create something for use on the regular D&D page.



Why? Because they think that it'll keep us happy. It be nice if they cared enough to ask for an opinion, but we know they won't do that.

And you know, at the rate of one room a week, it's going to take over a year just to cover Level One.

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Even longer since it's been two weeks since the last room was posted!


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And you know, at the rate of one room a week, it's going to take over a year just to cover Level One.



Give them a chance. I'm sure they will generic out the whole level in time.
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