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Ethriel
Learned Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 06 Mar 2005 : 02:13:52
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I thnink a pretty decent novel/trilogy would be the fall of the Drow of the surface; starting with Araushnee's fall from Arvandor with Vhaeraun, Kiransalee, Selvetarm and so forth, detailing the massive war (Possible prologue Corellon's duel with Gruumsh), whereas the next books deal with Drow establishing their cities (I'd like to see more on Menzoberra the Kinless and her death). I dunno, this just struck me as an interesting idea.
And I hope Elaine writes some more Liriel novels so we can get some closure on our little drow wizard as well as her nemesis Shakti and I really hope we get some closure on Kymil Nimesin... (any word if he's to appear in ANY coming books? I just don't feel...right when such a vile guy escapes justice)
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 06 Mar 2005 : 02:48:33
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| Ethriel, your first idea has already kinda been fulfilled in Evermeet: The Island of Elves. Even though it's not TOO detailed, a lot of the events you are talking about already have been written. |
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Ethriel
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 06 Mar 2005 : 03:20:07
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Hmm...too bad, I think a big drow war could have made quite the trilogy
I've gotta find Evermeet... |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 06 Mar 2005 : 04:11:15
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Personally, I'm rather tired of reading about drow. They are interesting, but they've already gotten more than their fair share of airtime. The drow are not technically even a core player race, and yet there are tons of novels about them while halfings, gnomes, and to a lesser extent dwarves have been largely ignored. For that matter, who said elves of any type must be the be-all end-all of the non-human core races? One thing I love about the Eberron setting is how it has played up the role of these "shorter, less sexier" races.
As for Liriel...I'd love to read more about her, as well, but I believe Elaine has mentioned--in her thread--that WotC has no new Liriel novels planned at this time. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 06 Mar 2005 : 04:42:04
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Originally posted by Ethriel
I thnink a pretty decent novel/trilogy would be the fall of the Drow of the surface; starting with Araushnee's fall from Arvandor with Vhaeraun, Kiransalee, Selvetarm and so forth, detailing the massive war (Possible prologue Corellon's duel with Gruumsh), whereas the next books deal with Drow establishing their cities (I'd like to see more on Menzoberra the Kinless and her death). I dunno, this just struck me as an interesting idea.
Yes, it's interesting, but I doubt it will happen, at least not in the near future if ever. As the upcoming and recently published novels show, the book department seems to be focusing on the present and future rather than having a novel details events from the past. The only tome about the past upcoming that I can think of right now is the KoMD novel.
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And I hope Elaine writes some more Liriel novels so we can get some closure on our little drow wizard as well as her nemesis Shakti and I really hope we get some closure on Kymil Nimesin... (any word if he's to appear in ANY coming books? I just don't feel...right when such a vile guy escapes justice)
I believe the FAQ on her website shows that at least for now, no such novels are planned or in the works. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 06 Mar 2005 : 04:43:07
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Originally posted by Ethriel
Hmm...too bad, I think a big drow war could have made quite the trilogy
I've gotta find Evermeet...
Have you tried Ebay? |
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Ethriel
Learned Scribe
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - 06 Mar 2005 : 05:04:28
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| Let me rephrase that: Ordering online isn't an option for at least another month |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 06 Mar 2005 : 05:30:53
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
The only tome about the past upcoming that I can think of right now is the KoMD novel.
Simple curiosity, but what title would that be? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 06 Mar 2005 : 05:46:37
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
The only tome about the past upcoming that I can think of right now is the KoMD novel.
Simple curiosity, but what title would that be?
Ed's Knights of Myth Drannor trilogy that he's working on still. I don't think that the title has been totally chosen yet. :) I'm soooooooo looking forward to this trilogy. It's only taken 15 years to get it made. :) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 06 Mar 2005 : 05:57:03
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Originally posted by Ethriel
Let me rephrase that: Ordering online isn't an option for at least another month
You do realize, don't you, that with eBay, you are simply bidding online? Most auctions give various options for paying by snail-mail.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 06 Mar 2005 : 05:58:35
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Now, me, personally, I'd like to see Jeff Grubb and Kate Novak do another trilogy. I love their stuff.  |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
1715 Posts |
Posted - 06 Mar 2005 : 07:15:09
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Now, me, personally, I'd like to see Jeff Grubb and Kate Novak do another trilogy. I love their stuff.
I'd second that. I think we're long overdue for either a great Alias novel (starring Jennifer Garner with red hair! ) or perhaps taking Jeff's FR comic characters and rebuilding the Realmsmaster for new adventures!
Then again, they're the dearest of friends so I just want to see them get more books under their names.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 06 Mar 2005 : 17:05:01
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Now, me, personally, I'd like to see Jeff Grubb and Kate Novak do another trilogy. I love their stuff.
I'd second that. I think we're long overdue for either a great Alias novel (starring Jennifer Garner with red hair!) or perhaps taking Jeff's FR comic characters and rebuilding the Realmsmaster for new adventures!
Then again, they're the dearest of friends so I just want to see them get more books under their names.
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The Realms Master was rebuilt, in one of the Dragon short stories. 'Twas called Reunification (Body and Soul), and appeared in issue 247.
But yeah, it would be great to see a novel or even a trilogy dealing with Foxy, Agrivar, Ishi, Minder, Vartan, and Omen. They made a great team.
I seem to recall Agrivar and Ishi appearing in one of the Realms of anthologies, as well. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 Mar 2005 : 17:43:02
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| Though the title Swords of Eveningstar has been mooted for the first Knights book. |
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VEDSICA
Senior Scribe
USA
466 Posts |
Posted - 07 Mar 2005 : 01:11:53
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I want to see Elaine do a novel,or trilogy, on Elaith Craulnober.Not necessarily his past.Well his past will always have to be mentioned,but....I want to see him in adventures in the present.
Also I am intrigued with RAS coming out with the post Crystal Shard Jarlaxle and Entreri. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 07 Mar 2005 : 05:30:13
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Originally posted by kuje31
Ed's Knights of Myth Drannor trilogy that he's working on still. I don't think that the title has been totally chosen yet. :) I'm soooooooo looking forward to this trilogy. It's only taken 15 years to get it made. :)
Ooooh! I know about that novel (and look forward to it!), I just didn't know what the initials stood for. They didn't ring any bells.  |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 07 Mar 2005 : 06:28:38
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Originally posted by VEDSICA
I want to see Elaine do a novel,or trilogy, on Elaith Craulnober.Not necessarily his past.Well his past will always have to be mentioned,but....I want to see him in adventures in the present.
I recall her mentioning some time ago about a novel proposal featuring Elaith that she submitted. The idea was nixed, no doubt due to the current focus on new characters rather than old ones.
Except of course for
Drizzt
and most other R.A. Salvatore characters
and Elminster
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 07 Mar 2005 : 11:26:30
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by VEDSICA
I want to see Elaine do a novel,or trilogy, on Elaith Craulnober.Not necessarily his past.Well his past will always have to be mentioned,but....I want to see him in adventures in the present.
I recall her mentioning some time ago about a novel proposal featuring Elaith that she submitted. The idea was nixed, no doubt due to the current focus on new characters rather than old ones.
Except of course for
Drizzt
and most other R.A. Salvatore characters
and Elminster
and the KoMD.
Hmmm.....
*snickers* Good point, SB. WotC does love their cash cows.
Though I'd hesitate to put the KoMD on there. We've had novels that featured them, but they've never really been the focus of the tale. |
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VEDSICA
Senior Scribe
USA
466 Posts |
Posted - 07 Mar 2005 : 16:02:17
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| SB I do recall Elaine saying that somewhere on a thread,but I don't remember which one.I do agree that WoTC are big into their cash cows,as Wooly appropriately states it.For WoTC to turn down Elaine's proposal for Elaith,it's strange to me.Elaith is a great character that I think would sell very well.I think it is safe to say that the majority of us here at candlekeep wouldn't mind seeing him in a novel, or trilogy,whatever you will. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 07 Mar 2005 : 17:25:39
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Originally posted by VEDSICA
SB I do recall Elaine saying that somewhere on a thread,but I don't remember which one.
I believe the first time I read about it was on the forums that shall not be named. If I recall correctly, the proposal had Elaith traveling to Lamruil's new kingdom with a certain relative along with him.
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I do agree that WoTC are big into their cash cows,as Wooly appropriately states it.
A company that wants to make money. I can't fault them for such a goal. But, please spare me the "we're not interested in old characters" line. 
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I think it is safe to say that the majority of us here at candlekeep wouldn't mind seeing him in a novel, or trilogy,whatever you will.
But, we are only a fraction of online novel readers which are a fraction themselves of overall readers. Perhaps Elaith's appearance in the upcoming Waterdeep novel and short story in Dragon will convince powers that be of his popularity. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 07 Mar 2005 : 18:09:43
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
But, we are only a fraction of online novel readers which are a fraction themselves of overall readers. Perhaps Elaith's appearance in the upcoming Waterdeep novel and short story in Dragon will convince powers that be of his popularity.
That's very true. Message boards do not seem to be representative of the broad readership. Judging solely from the defunct WotC forums, someone new to fantasy might not pick up the fact that Bob Salvatore is one of the most popular fantasy writers alive.
Emails aren't a reliable indicator, either, but I think they come a little closer to a representative sample. After the Waterdeep novel and short story come out, I plan to keep a file of every Elaith-focused email I receive. Not that I expect WotC would find this data interesting--this is for my own benefit. Comparing frequency of reader requests for various characters is a good exercise, not only in determining whether or not to continue writing about a particular character, but when contemplating what sort of new characters to create. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 07 Mar 2005 : 18:48:37
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Emails aren't a reliable indicator, either, but I think they come a little closer to a representative sample. After the Waterdeep novel and short story come out, I plan to keep a file of every Elaith-focused email I receive. Not that I expect WotC would find this data interesting--this is for my own benefit. Comparing frequency of reader requests for various characters is a good exercise, not only in determining whether or not to continue writing about a particular character, but when contemplating what sort of new characters to create.
Nice to hear that will be done. I imagine such a task also keeps fresh the statistic skills we picked up from mandatory courses. |
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VEDSICA
Senior Scribe
USA
466 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2005 : 03:59:04
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That's a good idea Elaine to do.I think Elaith would do well.He's an extremly interesting character to me.To me he's the ultimate rouge.
SB I'm in agreement about the,"We're not into old characters" B.S.The old characters are what made FR.Not to say that the new ones that are coming out leave something to be desired.Quite the contrary.I'm particularly intrigued by Dorn and Kara,Aeravin,etc...But the old characters still do it for me.I want to see them.Though we are the minority here.Elaine stay on WoTC about Elaith please |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 08 Mar 2005 : 05:20:09
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| *smiles* I do like a lot of the newer characters, and it helps to remember that the old characters were once new characters. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2005 : 05:35:32
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
*smiles* I do like a lot of the newer characters, and it helps to remember that the old characters were once new characters.
I've pointed out more than once that all characters in the Realms were once new characters... But still, I don't see anything wrong with revisiting old ones, so long as it doesn't continue ad nauseum...
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2005 : 06:03:17
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
But still, I don't see anything wrong with revisiting old ones, so long as it doesn't continue ad nauseum...
Why WR, what characters from the Realms could possibly be going on in that fashion? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2005 : 11:27:01
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
But still, I don't see anything wrong with revisiting old ones, so long as it doesn't continue ad nauseum...
Why WR, what characters from the Realms could possibly be going on in that fashion?
Well, there's that third guy from the left who seems to be in every single tavern scene... |
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VEDSICA
Senior Scribe
USA
466 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2005 : 17:37:48
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You guys are silly |
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Melfius
Senior Scribe
USA
516 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2005 : 21:51:26
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| I want to renew my desire to see a series done on the Harpstar Wars. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 00:21:04
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You guys are silly
Thank you. We aim to please.  |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 09 Mar 2005 : 01:42:20
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
*smiles* I do like a lot of the newer characters, and it helps to remember that the old characters were once new characters.
I've pointed out more than once that all characters in the Realms were once new characters... But still, I don't see anything wrong with revisiting old ones, so long as it doesn't continue ad nauseum...
I'm sure you have. And trust me, I'd love to see more books about Arilyn and Danilo and Liriel and other favorite old characters, myself.
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