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Archwizard
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 Posted - 16 May 2006 : 00:58:05
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edbonny
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 16 May 2006 : 15:44:34
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Originally posted by VonRaventheDaring
Okay sorry about the confusion i had there. So Who was Auppenser born of if i may ask. What was his relationship with mystral, and Selune? I kinda always pictured him as being one of mystral's lovers kinda the calm to her chaos, a balancing effect on her if you will. Did Auppenser have any chosen, and if so how many, and did any survive the destruction of Jhaamdath? I have a few more questions but will wait till i hear back from you on these! Thanks again Ed.
Hey VRtD,
I imagine Auppenser would have been on extremely good terms with Mystral, especially since the god of magic valued Auppenser so much as to preserve him with "coma" rather than let him die. As for them being lovers, anything is possible. although they probably kept it on the down low. I imagine Auppenser would have been on friendly terms with Selune and other gods with a similar mindset.
I do not think Auppenser would have had any Chosen. His role as a subordinate was very much like Azuth's. Therefore as a subordinate and a follower of the balance, he would not have upset the balance between himself and Mystryl by putting forth specialized champions.
Auppenser's origins were never fleshed out as much as you would want to hear. I think you'd agree that he merits a good article in Dragon or a few pages in a FR book.
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VonRaventheDaring
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 16 May 2006 : 16:02:55
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| I would love to see a dragon article about Auppenser ed. I agree with wooly that it would be awsome to see you just flesh out some of the material of Auppenser you have presented here and submit it to Dragon. I know the psionic community would love to see it as would i am sure some FR fans. Was there any stuff you submitted for Lost Empires that got cut due to space or anything. You might want to update the Auppenser monk, and priest stuff using the new material in the CP as well Ed being that if you use some of that material it might help. |
"Develop the latent abilities within you for that is your power alone. Psionics is the ultimate art of magic and you are its practitioner. Through lifelong dedication, strive to unite your will with your physical form to become one. Only through the unrestrained union of one’s mind and body can the magic of psionics truly be mastered. Throw off the yoke of any who would impose tyranny upon you. Likewise, do not ever force another to submit to your will. Free your mind, free yourself and you have only just begun the path to true psionic mastery. Free others, open their minds to the Invisible Art, and you will show them way to Auppenser."
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edbonny
Forgotten Realms Designer
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157 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2006 : 14:18:41
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Originally posted by DracophileAre you saying that levels in MSoA stack with levels in a Psionic Class, thus raising the character's Manifester level, but providing no other bonuses (no extra powers known, bonus feats, etc)?
For example, if I had a Cleric 5/Psion 1/MSoA 1, would my Manifester Level be 1 or 2?
Thanks!
Hey Dracophile,
You have the number of powers and power points allotted to a psion 1 but you manifest your powers as one level higher (in this case 2) with regard to the variables of the powers manifested (duration, range, damage, etc.). I hope that clears it up.
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edbonny
Forgotten Realms Designer
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157 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2006 : 14:20:24
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Originally posted by VonRaventheDaring
I would love to see a dragon article about Auppenser ed. I agree with wooly that it would be awsome to see you just flesh out some of the material of Auppenser you have presented here and submit it to Dragon. I know the psionic community would love to see it as would i am sure some FR fans. Was there any stuff you submitted for Lost Empires that got cut due to space or anything. You might want to update the Auppenser monk, and priest stuff using the new material in the CP as well Ed being that if you use some of that material it might help.
Hmmm - Is it possible to submit a prestige class to Dragon that has appeared on the web. I thought that Candlekeep had rights over the material published here. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 17 May 2006 : 16:01:21
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You might want to check with Big Al on that one Ed.
If it's material you've written, then it's largely your own. Candlekeep's just hosting it under the specific guideline that it not be reproduced anywhere else online without the express permission of the author -- which is you.
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 May 2006 : 17:34:12
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Originally posted by The Sage
You might want to check with Big Al on that one Ed.
If it's material you've written, then it's largely your own. Candlekeep's just hosting it under the specific guideline that it not be reproduced anywhere else online without the express permission of the author -- which is you.
Actually, I have to disagree. According to the writers magazine, if you publish something on the net, it IS published and so it's kinda.... unethical to try to sell it to someone else since you have basically published it. Which is why I won't try to sell Paizo my articles that I published here on 'Keep. |
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Alaundo
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Posted - 17 May 2006 : 20:10:38
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Hmmm - Is it possible to submit a prestige class to Dragon that has appeared on the web. I thought that Candlekeep had rights over the material published here.
Well met
We make a point of stating that any material published remains the property of the author and that Candlekeep claim no rights of ownership...unless stated otherwise.
However, we do ask that anyone wishing to distribute material posted on the site elsewhere should seek permission from us first, as the author may have given us exclusive hosting rights. |
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Dracophile
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Posted - 17 May 2006 : 22:51:43
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Originally posted by edbonny
Hey Dracophile,
You have the number of powers and power points allotted to a psion 1 but you manifest your powers as one level higher (in this case 2) with regard to the variables of the powers manifested (duration, range, damage, etc.). I hope that clears it up.
- Ed
Kinda  More to the point, can the MSoA in my example (Cleric 5/ Psion 1/MSoA 1)augment his powers as a 2nd level Psion as well? As in, can he in fact spend a total of 2 pp on a power? Or is he still limited to a single PP.
Another way of asking the question would be, does the character's levels in MSoA behave in a similar fashion to the Practiced Manifester feat? 
As always, thanks so much for your time and attention
Peace
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Zeboaster of Ordulin
Acolyte
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Posted - 18 May 2006 : 05:08:47
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Hi, thanks for all of the great stuff on Auppenser, Ed. That stuff slays.
I have a monk of the Old Order IMC. After reading through this stuff, I'm debating making the defunct deity that the Old Order once worshipped (and now long forgotten) be Auppenser. It's not that much of a stretch from the description in the FRCS to the description of Auppenser that you've given here. Its sounding more and more smashing every second (unless of course, there's some canon description of the Old Order that I've missed somewhere along the way). I've been taking some time out of the Realms the past year or so to run an Eberron game, so I might have missed some things here or there.
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VonRaventheDaring
Learned Scribe
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197 Posts |
Posted - 18 May 2006 : 09:33:01
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| Hey Ed, So i am a bit confused, about the subserviant comment concerning Auppenser. I thought Auppenser was the leader of his own pantheon, although i understand that he was under the goddess of magic. Did he have any gods working underhim, or that he sponsered? Btw not to get off subject but did you submit anything for lost empires, that Wizards didn't take? Any stuff you wanted to add but didn't, or any stuff for web enhancements, dragon articles you could add? Oh yeah been dying to ask you did Jhaamdath have a great library, like many of the libraries of great civilizations and all. I am just asking cause i always imagined the lore gems of the Elves being more of a psionic thing, than magical in nature, and if Jhaamdath had coppied them they would be awsome for a library. Also a demiplane library would have been cool for Jhaamdath's grand library, kinda an easy all access kinda place. |
"Develop the latent abilities within you for that is your power alone. Psionics is the ultimate art of magic and you are its practitioner. Through lifelong dedication, strive to unite your will with your physical form to become one. Only through the unrestrained union of one’s mind and body can the magic of psionics truly be mastered. Throw off the yoke of any who would impose tyranny upon you. Likewise, do not ever force another to submit to your will. Free your mind, free yourself and you have only just begun the path to true psionic mastery. Free others, open their minds to the Invisible Art, and you will show them way to Auppenser."
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Pystian
Acolyte
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Posted - 21 May 2006 : 20:25:06
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Since Ghostwise came up before...
When Calim first came to what later became Calimshan, he brought Human and Halfling slaves with him. If those slave families were still in place during the Jhaamdathan anti-slavery movement (which I think is a really safe bet), many of them would have been freed by Monastic Servants of Auppenser. Considering Halfling nature, they might have adapted really well to life in Jhaamdath. That is, until Dharien achieves power. If the Halflings still have ties to the church that rescued them or becomes the target of Dharien's racism, where do they go? Back to Calimshan doesn't make much sense, and they'd never make it across the Sea of Fallen Stars with Dharien's new navy. They could hit the mountains, I guess, but the Chondalwood seems a MUCH more attractive choice, especially if they can ally with the Elves. And at some point in the future, there are telepathic Halflings in the Chondalwood... |
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edbonny
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 22 May 2006 : 19:11:12
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Originally posted by VonRaventheDaring
Hey Ed, So i am a bit confused, about the subserviant comment concerning Auppenser. I thought Auppenser was the leader of his own pantheon, although i understand that he was under the goddess of magic. Did he have any gods working underhim, or that he sponsered? Btw not to get off subject but did you submit anything for lost empires, that Wizards didn't take? Any stuff you wanted to add but didn't, or any stuff for web enhancements, dragon articles you could add? Oh yeah been dying to ask you did Jhaamdath have a great library, like many of the libraries of great civilizations and all. I am just asking cause i always imagined the lore gems of the Elves being more of a psionic thing, than magical in nature, and if Jhaamdath had coppied them they would be awsome for a library. Also a demiplane library would have been cool for Jhaamdath's grand library, kinda an easy all access kinda place.
Hey VRtD,
Auppenser has always been part of the Faerunian pantheon, and was a greater deity in the service of Mystryl. He was subservient to the goddess of magic, but he was not a servant. More like Mystryl was first among equals. There is nothing written that speaks of any gods in his employ but that doesn't mean there wasn't any... although there would need to be an explanation for what happened to this deity after Auppenser went into his slumber.
I didn't submit anything to Dragon about LEoF. Dragon was not really soliciting campaign specific material that directly applied newly published books. That has since changed with Dragon and we are back to the good old days! :) I did submit some Imaskari artifacts to Wizards for use on their online site but they never got published. I don't see why not as far as a Jhaamdathan great library goes. The astral ruins of Dhinnilith would house the only surviving one, and its contents would theoretically be in pristine condition.
I currently have a Realms article under review with Dragon. It is loosely linked with Lost Empires, but has no connection to Jhaamdath. As soon as I hear about that one, I'll inquire about an Auppenser-Jhaamdathan piece.
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VonRaventheDaring
Learned Scribe
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197 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2006 : 19:14:22
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"Develop the latent abilities within you for that is your power alone. Psionics is the ultimate art of magic and you are its practitioner. Through lifelong dedication, strive to unite your will with your physical form to become one. Only through the unrestrained union of one’s mind and body can the magic of psionics truly be mastered. Throw off the yoke of any who would impose tyranny upon you. Likewise, do not ever force another to submit to your will. Free your mind, free yourself and you have only just begun the path to true psionic mastery. Free others, open their minds to the Invisible Art, and you will show them way to Auppenser."
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edbonny
Forgotten Realms Designer
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157 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2006 : 19:19:01
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Originally posted by Pystian
Since Ghostwise came up before...
When Calim first came to what later became Calimshan, he brought Human and Halfling slaves with him. If those slave families were still in place during the Jhaamdathan anti-slavery movement (which I think is a really safe bet), many of them would have been freed by Monastic Servants of Auppenser. Considering Halfling nature, they might have adapted really well to life in Jhaamdath. That is, until Dharien achieves power. If the Halflings still have ties to the church that rescued them or becomes the target of Dharien's racism, where do they go? Back to Calimshan doesn't make much sense, and they'd never make it across the Sea of Fallen Stars with Dharien's new navy. They could hit the mountains, I guess, but the Chondalwood seems a MUCH more attractive choice, especially if they can ally with the Elves. And at some point in the future, there are telepathic Halflings in the Chondalwood...
Hey Pystian,
Nice idea. I could see a few halfling hidden communities secreted away by monastic servants around the Jhaamdathan kingdom, surviving and thriving. Later on in the empire's existence there might have been trouble with the Jhaamdathan expansionists. A community of psionic halflings would be cool, especially if their legacy came from Jhaamdath.
If the Dragon article I reference above sees print, I would put a fair number of those ghostwise halflings in the little known far eastern halfling kingdom of Delmyr (obscure Dragon magazine reference, issue 269, The Hin Nobody Knows, Ed Greenwood). We shall see.
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VonRaventheDaring
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 22 May 2006 : 19:20:53
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| maybe they still worship Auppenser, or at the least have a few forgotten temples to him! the Kukri would make an excellent weapon for them too! |
"Develop the latent abilities within you for that is your power alone. Psionics is the ultimate art of magic and you are its practitioner. Through lifelong dedication, strive to unite your will with your physical form to become one. Only through the unrestrained union of one’s mind and body can the magic of psionics truly be mastered. Throw off the yoke of any who would impose tyranny upon you. Likewise, do not ever force another to submit to your will. Free your mind, free yourself and you have only just begun the path to true psionic mastery. Free others, open their minds to the Invisible Art, and you will show them way to Auppenser."
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VonRaventheDaring
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 15:11:48
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I was recently reading the R.A. Salvator Book the Sell Swords, and was reminded of my favorite character in that series (besides Jarlax of course) his psionist (2nd edition) who is in charge of the underdark organization. This got me to researching 2nd edition and 1st edition psionists by default of course.
I was wondering ed if you could tell me if the reason for the differences to the types and styles of psioinics through the years was due to the weave change (a possibility) the slumber of Auppenser, the time of troubles, and the stirring to of the god now.
By this i mean that 1st level psionists were the Jhaamdath era before the gods slumber, 2nd edition psionists were the slumber era, till the time of troubles, and 3rd edition psioinists are the god is awakening/semi-sleeping status. IF that makes sense i will feel better. Any way the reason i ask is because while the mage magic stuff has been clarified to account for the timeline (most of the time) the psionics have not.
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"Develop the latent abilities within you for that is your power alone. Psionics is the ultimate art of magic and you are its practitioner. Through lifelong dedication, strive to unite your will with your physical form to become one. Only through the unrestrained union of one’s mind and body can the magic of psionics truly be mastered. Throw off the yoke of any who would impose tyranny upon you. Likewise, do not ever force another to submit to your will. Free your mind, free yourself and you have only just begun the path to true psionic mastery. Free others, open their minds to the Invisible Art, and you will show them way to Auppenser."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 17:42:25
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Originally posted by VonRaventheDaring
I was recently reading the R.A. Salvator Book the Sell Swords, and was reminded of my favorite character in that series (besides Jarlax of course) his psionist (2nd edition) who is in charge of the underdark organization. This got me to researching 2nd edition and 1st edition psionists by default of course.
I was wondering ed if you could tell me if the reason for the differences to the types and styles of psioinics through the years was due to the weave change (a possibility) the slumber of Auppenser, the time of troubles, and the stirring to of the god now.
By this i mean that 1st level psionists were the Jhaamdath era before the gods slumber, 2nd edition psionists were the slumber era, till the time of troubles, and 3rd edition psioinists are the god is awakening/semi-sleeping status. IF that makes sense i will feel better. Any way the reason i ask is because while the mage magic stuff has been clarified to account for the timeline (most of the time) the psionics have not.
Thanks
Vonraven
The Time of Troubles also covered psionics -- that was the transition from 1E to 2E, for everything, including psionics. |
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VonRaventheDaring
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 17:45:31
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| Thanks Wooly, but then what about the update from 2nd edition to 3.5? |
"Develop the latent abilities within you for that is your power alone. Psionics is the ultimate art of magic and you are its practitioner. Through lifelong dedication, strive to unite your will with your physical form to become one. Only through the unrestrained union of one’s mind and body can the magic of psionics truly be mastered. Throw off the yoke of any who would impose tyranny upon you. Likewise, do not ever force another to submit to your will. Free your mind, free yourself and you have only just begun the path to true psionic mastery. Free others, open their minds to the Invisible Art, and you will show them way to Auppenser."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 16 Jun 2006 : 18:03:53
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Originally posted by VonRaventheDaring
Thanks Wooly, but then what about the update from 2nd edition to 3.5?
There's been little or no in-game explanation for most of the changes wrought by 3.x. It's a point of contention with many of us. Since we had a large event (the ToT) to explain the minor changes from 1E to 2E, many of us are of the opinion that the major changes of 3.x should have had some in-game explanation.
Basically, 3.x says "Oh, hey, it's always been this way! You just didn't notice it before!" |
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edbonny
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
157 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2006 : 14:25:10
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Basically, 3.x says "Oh, hey, it's always been this way! You just didn't notice it before!"
I've felt very much the same way about this, just a little different view, "It's always been there, you just never knew about it until now." |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 19 Jun 2006 : 17:44:09
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Originally posted by edbonny
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Basically, 3.x says "Oh, hey, it's always been this way! You just didn't notice it before!"
I've felt very much the same way about this, just a little different view, "It's always been there, you just never knew about it until now."
Either way, it's an approach that I feel leaves much to be desired. But I'll not rant on that particular topic, since I've done so in the past. |
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VonRaventheDaring
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 14 Aug 2006 : 15:47:06
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| Okay ed i know i haven't asked you a question in a while so here you go! How do you deal with the Elan, or Elans or Elanians or whatever the plural is for them. I mean what is their Jhaamdath history? How long have they been around? Did Auppenser create them, or help to create them? Did the god of psionics have plans for them as perhaps chosen, or champions? How many if they had a clan sturcture, clans did the Elans posses during Jhaamdath. Okay i think that that is enough questions for now. :D |
"Develop the latent abilities within you for that is your power alone. Psionics is the ultimate art of magic and you are its practitioner. Through lifelong dedication, strive to unite your will with your physical form to become one. Only through the unrestrained union of one’s mind and body can the magic of psionics truly be mastered. Throw off the yoke of any who would impose tyranny upon you. Likewise, do not ever force another to submit to your will. Free your mind, free yourself and you have only just begun the path to true psionic mastery. Free others, open their minds to the Invisible Art, and you will show them way to Auppenser."
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Doug Ramsey
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Posted - 27 Aug 2006 : 08:56:12
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Ed,
Loved your work on Lost Empires of Faerun, from which comes my question. Regarding the timeline on page 113, there is a reference to the eight sons of Taark Shanat each setting up his own subkingdom of Shanatar. The timeline further notes that each subkingdom became associated strongly with the church of the patron deity of the founder. This last part was news to me and my own investigations haven't found it repeated in prior books. Would you happen to know or have decided which subkingdom would have been associated with which dwarven deity? Past lore suggests Dugmaren for Iltkazar and logically Moradin and Berronar would have had the top spot in Alatorin. |
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Bladedancer
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 27 Aug 2006 : 09:36:50
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| I believe Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to The Underdark has the info you seek. |
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Doug Ramsey
Acolyte
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Posted - 27 Aug 2006 : 10:03:56
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I believe Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to The Underdark has the info you seek.
Almost. Thanks for the suggestion though as it's revealed to me other information that I thought it didn't have about the various subkingdoms, due to its odd organization.
However, right after my last post I realized I had a copy of The Wyrmskull Throne which speaks of the artifact throne of Shanatar. Out of curiosity I started reading and found out that with said throne were scepters for each subkingdom...marked with the symbols of the patron deities all around. Exactly what I needed.
I suppose that figures, as soon as I stopped looking and thought to ask I find it. |
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edbonny
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 07 Sep 2006 : 14:42:45
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Originally posted by VonRaventheDaring
Okay ed i know i haven't asked you a question in a while so here you go! How do you deal with the Elan, or Elans or Elanians or whatever the plural is for them. I mean what is their Jhaamdath history? How long have they been around? Did Auppenser create them, or help to create them? Did the god of psionics have plans for them as perhaps chosen, or champions? How many if they had a clan sturcture, clans did the Elans posses during Jhaamdath. Okay i think that that is enough questions for now. :D
Hey VRtD,
If I was going to bring the Elan in, I would do it subtly. The elan would not be a race created by Auppenser but more of a "psionic mutation" that a very very small number of humans might gave birth to (i.e. both parents were high-level psionicists). Outwardly these elan children would appear human, even consider themselves human, except that they were psionically different (gifted?) as a result of their parentage. If an elan mated with an elan, most of their children would be human. There would be a small chance for the child to be elan. This low birth rate would keep elan as an elite fortunate few (and thus ensure a favored place in Jhaamdathan society).
To add elan as a distinct race, you risk creating a competing society of elan within Jhaamdath promoting elan goals, values, and ideals - which to me takes away from the established Jhaamdathan history.
- Ed
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edbonny
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 07 Sep 2006 : 14:46:09
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Originally posted by Doug Ramsey
Ed,
Loved your work on Lost Empires of Faerun, from which comes my question. Regarding the timeline on page 113, there is a reference to the eight sons of Taark Shanat each setting up his own subkingdom of Shanatar. The timeline further notes that each subkingdom became associated strongly with the church of the patron deity of the founder. This last part was news to me and my own investigations haven't found it repeated in prior books. Would you happen to know or have decided which subkingdom would have been associated with which dwarven deity? Past lore suggests Dugmaren for Iltkazar and logically Moradin and Berronar would have had the top spot in Alatorin.
Hey Doug,
Thanks for the kind words. I see you have your answers. The Wyrmskull Throne featured heavily when researching that chapter of Ancient Empires.
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VonRaventheDaring
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 08 Sep 2006 : 01:06:47
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| I don't know ed they (elans that is) could have been used as kind of a way to preserve psionic lore, knowlage, and help keep the empire stable behind the scence, hense the secretiveness of the Elans. They wouldn't want just any psion (especailly evil ones) becoming immortal. But thats just the view i have on it. |
"Develop the latent abilities within you for that is your power alone. Psionics is the ultimate art of magic and you are its practitioner. Through lifelong dedication, strive to unite your will with your physical form to become one. Only through the unrestrained union of one’s mind and body can the magic of psionics truly be mastered. Throw off the yoke of any who would impose tyranny upon you. Likewise, do not ever force another to submit to your will. Free your mind, free yourself and you have only just begun the path to true psionic mastery. Free others, open their minds to the Invisible Art, and you will show them way to Auppenser."
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VonRaventheDaring
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 22 Sep 2006 : 16:43:59
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Okay ed another question to bother you with i guess lol.
I was just thinking if any of the smaller cities or as i would call them communities from Jhaamath were to have survived would they even have returned to the main continent of Faerun, or could they have possibly tried to reestablish a civilization far away from elves and such in say Osse, or other places? That would truely make them lost! okay bad joke sorry! :D |
"Develop the latent abilities within you for that is your power alone. Psionics is the ultimate art of magic and you are its practitioner. Through lifelong dedication, strive to unite your will with your physical form to become one. Only through the unrestrained union of one’s mind and body can the magic of psionics truly be mastered. Throw off the yoke of any who would impose tyranny upon you. Likewise, do not ever force another to submit to your will. Free your mind, free yourself and you have only just begun the path to true psionic mastery. Free others, open their minds to the Invisible Art, and you will show them way to Auppenser."
---Dogma of the Church of Auppenser |
Edited by - VonRaventheDaring on 22 Sep 2006 16:45:12 |
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