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edbonny
Forgotten Realms Designer

USA
157 Posts

Posted - 22 Sep 2006 :  17:10:27  Show Profile  Visit edbonny's Homepage Send edbonny a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VonRaventheDaring

Okay ed another question to bother you with i guess lol.
I was just thinking if any of the smaller cities or as i would call them communities from Jhaamath were to have survived would they even have returned to the main continent of Faerun, or could they have possibly tried to reestablish a civilization far away from elves and such in say Osse, or other places? That would truely make them lost! okay bad joke sorry! :D



That depends on how closely one wants to stick to established facts of Jhaamdath's destruction. Do you leave Jhaamdath to its utter and total destruction, where the empire was scoured from the face of Toril as described in 2e books? Do you save some Jhaamdath? If so, in what way? And why?

While it very attractive as an idea to salvage something wonderful from the wreckage, it has been done before in the Realms. And I did not want to create another Netheril or Imaskar -- both great empires whose utter destruction was later soft-pedaled with the introduction of Shade and Deep Imaskar.

And because of this, I wanted Jhaamdath to be different, to have very little to survive. I wanted anyone who wished to reclaim anything from Jhaamdathan antiquity to have to work for it (i.e. having to plumb the depths of Vilhon Reach for a psionic artifact). I did give in to the urge for something to survive intact -- Dhinnilith as the Jhaamdathan city that survived but only appears occasionally, and all its inhabitants are now merged into a psionic horror.

As documented already before LEoF, there were enough Jhaamdathan survivors in the region to draw the attention of a few gods seeking to impose order (among other things) on the chaotic aftermath of the tidal wave. As evidenced by who now dwells in the area, these survivors did not reform Jhaamdathan society -- and a good question would be why didn't they?!? But the fact remains that they didn't. Maybe after the catastrophe, they turned their back on everything Jhaamdathan, seeing the old ways as foolish? Maybe life was too hard after the tidal wave, and mere survival caused them to lose their Jhaamdathan lives over time. Maybe they latched onto their new gods as the only way out of their predicament, even though that meant forsaking the old ways.

I would prefer to leave Jhaamdath a mystery but I have one wild way to bring a big part of Jhaamdath back in a way that would be a first for the Realms. Undo the "caller in the darkness" in the Dhinnilith -- and by that I mean find a way to lock the city back on Toril when Dhinnilith next returns, then via a psionic epic power, "untie" the caller in the darkness and "resurrect" the de-glomerated (is that a word?) minds back into the human population that once formed the Caller in the Darkness. Make it so those people have no memory of being a Caller in the Darkness, and you have a true Jhaamdathan city with a full populace the same as it stood the day the tidal wave came.

What do you think of that?
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VonRaventheDaring
Learned Scribe

USA
197 Posts

Posted - 23 Sep 2006 :  22:13:46  Show Profile  Visit VonRaventheDaring's Homepage Send VonRaventheDaring a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow ed that is awsome, and i have to say i like the fact that little if anything survived the distruction of the Jhaamdath empire, mostly because it seems to me that there is Netherness all over the place anymore. what with artifacts, and cities, and well god power lichs and such i just kinda get tired of hearing about the Netherness. But Jhaamdath well i crave lore on that because it is so unknown. I love the idea to restore the city Dhinnilith and restore the people from the caller of darkness. That is an awsome quest and one worthy of a novel at the least and possibly a whole trilogy of its own. That is a golden idea.

"Develop the latent abilities within you for that is your power alone. Psionics is the ultimate art of magic and you are its practitioner. Through lifelong dedication, strive to unite your will with your physical form to become one. Only through the unrestrained union of one’s mind and body can the magic of psionics truly be mastered. Throw off the yoke of any who would impose tyranny upon you. Likewise, do not ever force another to submit to your will. Free your mind, free yourself and you have only just begun the path to true psionic mastery. Free others, open their minds to the Invisible Art, and you will show them way to Auppenser."
---Dogma of the Church of Auppenser
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DrunkenHadozee
Acolyte

8 Posts

Posted - 05 Feb 2007 :  15:09:14  Show Profile  Visit DrunkenHadozee's Homepage Send DrunkenHadozee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What worshiper/clergy alignments (as per the old FR 2nd edition rules) would Auppenser have allowed? It doesn't seem to me that he would care much about his worshipers' alignment, but he doesn't strike me as someone who would allow evil folks in the ranks of his clergy (not much serenity to be found in the heart of an evil being, after all).
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edbonny
Forgotten Realms Designer

USA
157 Posts

Posted - 08 Feb 2007 :  17:51:11  Show Profile  Visit edbonny's Homepage Send edbonny a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DrunkenHadozee

What worshiper/clergy alignments (as per the old FR 2nd edition rules) would Auppenser have allowed? It doesn't seem to me that he would care much about his worshipers' alignment, but he doesn't strike me as someone who would allow evil folks in the ranks of his clergy (not much serenity to be found in the heart of an evil being, after all).



As the god of psionics, Auppenser (I think) might have accepted all alignments... probably favoring those with more neutral tendencies and also so long as all worshippers abided by his tenets (thinking that the owning of slaves would result in instant ex-communication from Auppenser).
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Ren
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Posted - 26 Jun 2007 :  06:05:47  Show Profile  Visit Ren's Homepage Send Ren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heya Ed, I'm a huge psionics and realms fan, and after I saw your work with Jhaamdath, I was overjoyed. I like your work so far, and hope to see more.

Good, now I got that out of the way

I had a question; (and maybe more to follow in subsequent posts) Have you fooled around with the idea of the Synad in the realms? I have been sorely disappointed with the lack of Synad info, and have started to write some of my own, that I may post where applicable in the forums somewhere, but I wanted to hear your take on it. (If any)

Thanks in advance,

-Ren
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edbonny
Forgotten Realms Designer

USA
157 Posts

Posted - 26 Jun 2007 :  22:06:21  Show Profile  Visit edbonny's Homepage Send edbonny a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ren

I had a question; (and maybe more to follow in subsequent posts) Have you fooled around with the idea of the Synad in the realms? I have been sorely disappointed with the lack of Synad info, and have started to write some of my own, that I may post where applicable in the forums somewhere, but I wanted to hear your take on it. (If any)



Hiya Ren and Welcome to Candlekeep!

I have never really thought of adding the Synad to the Realms (my take is there have been so many new races added in so short a time recently that the Realms could use a break). As far as new psionic races go, Eytan Bernstein has some thoughts over on the Wizard's website for incorporating Elan into the Realms. He might have even mentioned the Synad's there but I don't have the link.

- Ed
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Ozzalum
Learned Scribe

USA
277 Posts

Posted - 31 Aug 2007 :  04:20:54  Show Profile  Visit Ozzalum's Homepage Send Ozzalum a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ed,

I was reading through Lost Empires of Faerun and came upon the section detailing the Crown Wars. I'm intrigued by Wendonai and his patronage of House Sethomiir. Specifically I'm interested in the character of Geirildin. Is there any more known or written about this character, starting with gender?

Thanks for a great book and lots of plot potential.
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nijineko
Acolyte

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 14 Aug 2011 :  19:59:15  Show Profile Send nijineko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Greetings.

I note that there is quite the bump in date by my posting here. I hope that the participant(s) are still active.

I noted from other threads the Udoxias Contact feat, and mention of the soon-to-be posted Create Udoxias Epic Power. Will this power be posted?

Regarding the commentary of the portfolios of psionics and dreams... Has there ever been any commentary or remarks on what form, if any, a portfolio takes? Is it purely meta-physical, or is there a physical component? It would seem that there is required more than a simple statement of intent to claim, as most transfers seem to involve either violence, theft, or neglect for a suitable period.

Regarding a certain someone gaining access to the portfolio of dreams... I understand that it is not uncommon for an individual coming out of a coma to fall into a normal sleep, which would include REM cycles, before waking up. It would be interesting if such were the case of the healing slumber of the Power in question. Even more interesting if he did take up the dream portfolio... which could have interesting ramifications.

Possibility one: psionics might only function via dreams, or only while dreaming. In such a case, the Kalashtar as a race could begin existing in the Realms via a Dreamtime, much as the aborigines of Australia profess. They do not dream, because their entire lives is a waking dream. This would also imply that they host tiny fragments of the Power in question... which could help the Power survive until a more traditional faith-based power base can be arranged. Other races could only manifest during normal sleep... (guess who would always be stuck with the watch while everyone else is sleeping. ^^ ) I can imagine enterprising parties knocking out the party psion in order for them to be able to dream, and thus manifest. heheheh.

Possibility two: the initial psionic gift could only be awakened via a dream. Possibly taking the form of some personal prophetic vision. Such a method would lend flavor, and also make for a fun built-in rp handle for local dms. Reminds me of the Cataclysm Mage, which I have recently had to reflavor for the Realms for a dm of mine. It was quite fun researching the various cataclysmic events that have taken place in the Realms in order to match up appropriate places and events with powers.

I will stop here for now and hope for a reply.

Thank you.


nijineko prismaticpison

Arukibito ga michi wo erabu ka, michi ga arukibito wo erabu no deshou ka?

The Journal of Tala'elowar Kiyiik! . KadoKado! Game for gifts!
nijineko the gm: AG16, CoS. nijineko the player: AtG, RttToH. inactive: IO, LoW, SaD
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KacyCrawford
Acolyte

USA
41 Posts

Posted - 09 Jul 2013 :  16:56:30  Show Profile Send KacyCrawford a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm, I do not believe I am hooked on the Realms, though do find them interesting. The frist thing that comes to mind that was Realms related was perhaps _Elves of Evermeet, Official Game Assessry_ 9430 which did offer some amazing things.
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